Redefining Discipline.

[whyabadi]

Baseline Abilities and Passives

- Mastery: Twin Disciplines
Increases the damage done by your Holy spells by 8%. Increases the healing done by your Shadow spells by 8%.

- Penance. Channeled over 2 sec. 2 charges. 15 sec recharge. 4% of base mana.
Launches a volley of holy light at the target, causing (3*40% of Spell Power) Holy damage to an enemy or (3*180% of Spell power) healing to an ally over 2 sec. Can be cast while moving.

- Smite. 1.5 sec cast. 0.25% of base mana.
Smites an enemy for (47% of Spell power) Holy damage. Increases the absorption amount of your next Power Word: Shield by an additional (40% of Spell power) up to a maximum of (320% of Spell power).

- Holy Fire. Instant. 1.5% of base mana. 8 sec cooldown.
Consumes the enemy in Holy flames that cause (55% of Spell power) Holy damage and an additional (57.75% of Spell power) Holy damage over 7 sec stacking up to 2 times. Smite has a 20% chance of resetting the cooldown of Holy Fire.

- Atonement.
Penance grants you Atonement for 6 seconds causing all spell damage you deal to heal up to 5 injured allies.

- Power of the Dark Side.
Shadow Mend and Shadow Word: Pain have a chance to empower your next Penance with Shadow, causing it to fire 1 to 3 additional bolts that deal Shadow damage or healing.

- Power Word: Radiance. 2 sec cast. 20 sec recharge. 6.5% of base mana.
A burst of light heals the target and 9 injured allies within 30 yards for (120% of Spell power).

- Power Word: Shield. Instant. 1% of base mana.
Shields an ally for 15 sec, absorbing (80% of Spell power) damage, and preventing damage from delaying spellcasting.

Talents

Level 15.

- Castigation
Penance gains an additional charge and channels 30% faster.

- Divine Fury
Smite increases the damage of Smite by 10% and reduces its cast time by 0.1 sec for 3 sec stacking up to 3 times.

- Schism
2 sec cast. 2% of base mana. 25 cooldown.

Attack the enemy's soul with a surge of Shadow energy, dealing (180% of Spell power) Shadow damage and increasing the damage or healing done by your next spell by 45%.

Level 30.
Unchanged.

Level 45.

- Shield Discipline
Power Word: Shield is now free.

- Mindbender
Unchanged.

- Power Word: Solace
Instant. 12 sec cooldown. 1.5% of base mana.

Strikes an enemy with heavenly power, dealing (50% of Spell power) Holy damage. Restores 5% of your maximum mana if your mana is below 30%, otherwise it deals 300% more damage.

Level 60.
Unchanged.


Level 75.

- Forgiveness
When you use Penance to heal an ally, the healing done by your healing spells is increased by 30% for 10 sec.

- Taming the Shadows
Your damage is increased by 3% for each target taking damage over time from your Shadow Mend or Shadow Word: Pain.

- Inner Fire
Instant.

A burst of Holy energy fills the caster, increasing Versatility by 5% and the chance for Smite to reset the cooldown of Holy Fire by an additional 30%. Lasts 60 min.

Level 90.

- Bursts of Light
Power Word: Radiance is now instant and its recharge time is reduced by 5 sec.

- Purge the Wicked
Instant. Replaces Shadow Word: Pain. 1.5% of base mana.

Cleanses the target with fire, causing (40% of Spell power) Fire damage and an additional (280% of Spell power) Fire damage over 24 sec. Spreads to two additional nearby enemies when you cast Penance on the target.

- Shadow Covenant
Instant. 10% of base mana. 30 sec cooldown.

Draws on the power of shadow to heal the target and 4 injured allies within 30 yards for (250% of Spell power).

Level 100.

- Renewed Hope
Your healing spells reduce all damage taken by 4% for 6 sec.

- Reverence
Power Word: Barrier, Pain Suppression, and Rapture have a 45 sec reduced cooldown.

- Evangelism
Instant. 10% of mana. 2 min cooldown.

Grants you 30% haste and reduces the recharge time of Penance by 150% for 12 sec.

[Malikath]

doesn't need the shadow elements, we have enough shadow specs.
more warding, damage reduction, and other EH increasing effects would be better to contrast holy's big healing numbers.
penance over heals should build up a shield with a damage reduction modifier based on mastery.

[whyabadi]

doesn't need the shadow elements, we have enough shadow specs.
more warding, damage reduction, and other EH increasing effects would be better to contrast holy's big healing numbers.
penance over heals should build up a shield with a damage reduction modifier based on mastery.

The main theme of this spec as I see it is its versatility in utilizing the power of light and shadow to heal allies, protect them, and damage enemies. You can choose to specialize in any of those but at the end of the day you are a healer and you need to heal.

[Masternap]

This concept seems really confused, even more so than the one we currently have. What's up with the 6 second Atonement? And since Penance channels for 2 seconds, it's basically only 4 second Atonement after triggering it. Why? The 15 seconds we have now already feel clunky as hell.

Not that it'll ever happen again, but why not just remove this 'Atonement is a buff' thing entirely and make some damaging spells heal players outright?

[phealin]

Not that it'll ever happen again, but why not just remove this 'Atonement is a buff' thing entirely and make some damaging spells heal players outright?

I completely agree with this, it's how it used to be back in Wrath which was awesome or make Atonement a cooldown to heal more, say you passively transfer 30% of all damage to healing at all times then you can pop Atonement and you then transfer 60% or 75% of your damage as healing for 15 seconds with a 2 or 3 minute CD or something.

[whyabadi]

This concept seems really confused, even more so than the one we currently have. What's up with the 6 second Atonement? And since Penance channels for 2 seconds, it's basically only 4 second Atonement after triggering it. Why? The 15 seconds we have now already feel clunky as hell.

That's not quite right. Penance deals damage to begin with so you don't really lose 2 seconds of Atonement. Also, it's 100% of the damage done instead of 60% AND your mastery increases your Holy damage done. It's immediate. You can quickly react to incoming damage, and you have 2 charges of Penance (3 talented) for more flexibility. It's a semi smart heal unlike the current version. And here you don't rely mostly on Atonement for healing. Your healing spells actually heal for a substantial amount and are not, as in the current implementation, mostly ways to apply Atonement.

Not that it'll ever happen again, but why not just remove this 'Atonement is a buff' thing entirely and make some damaging spells heal players outright?

Here you don't have to think much about and manage Atonement. Think of Penance as one of those damaging spells that heal players outright. You will already get plenty of healing out of one Penance. You need to heal 3 to 5 people? Then simply cast Penance and continue your normal dps rotation with Smite and Holy Fire if you like. Your tank is dipping low? Penance him/her for a powerful single target heal then continue with Shadow Mend or Smite if you like for a bit of group healing since you still have 4 seconds left of Atonement. Your raid takes damage? Cast 1-2 Radiance then continue with Penance if necessary. Nothing to do? Smite to increase the absorption of your next Power Word: Shield for when you need it.

[shade3891]

I would not mind most of the suggested changes. If I could mess with it I would do something like this:

Atonement
- Power Word: Shield, Power Word Radiance both apply Atonement to their target(s) for 15 seconds.
- If you Shadow Mend a target that has Atonement, Shadow Mend doesn't leave a dot but consumes the atonement instead. When it does it grants an absorb shield equal to the remaining time on atonement * 10% of the healing done by Shadow Mend.
- When you deal damage to any target you heal all targets with Atonement for 45% spellpower.

- Greater Atonement (when penance is used as a heal)
- Penance grants a friendly target Greater Atonement for 9 seconds and you grand up to 3 injured allies Atonement for 9 seconds.
- When you deal damage to any target you heal the target with Greater Atonement for 100% spellpower.

Confusion (when penance is used offensively)
- Penance inflicts an enemy target with Confusion and it deals 10% less damage for 3 seconds to targets with your Atonement.
- Damage reduction is increased by 10% for each active Atonement.

[barrsftw]

Pretty cool concept imo. I like current disc though so I'd prefer to stick with what we have. I think it's the most fun spec in the game. This is pretty cool though.

[muto]

No to all. Disc is perfectly fine the way it is.