New Trait (icicle damage) - Possible Glacial spike increase?

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Hi MageTeam,

As title suggests, wanted to float this idea out there and ask if anyone had had a go with it on the PTR.

Given that GS is based on Mastery / Icicle damage, would this new trait be worth taking / potentially stacking - an extra 50-200 damage per icicle would be a pretty significant burst damage boost no?

Obviously I don't know any facts I'm just speculating here, could be interesting?

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[HCLM]

We have to wait for sims for it. But it might be not so bad for PvP for some extra burst with GS build.

[nickseng]

Preliminary sims has it as the highest frost trait for ST damage



Looks like bloodmallet has been updated too. You can check there.

[Malfecto]

Is that stacked to 3? I played with a single stack yesterday on my gear and it feels bad using Glacial spike and only getting effectively have the trait's value since, I assume, you only proc the chance for FoF from the spike itself. Peeling that off and going splitting/TV didn't feel much better, especially since you much a lot of procs that happen from launching icicles after BF flurry/IL.

[nickseng]

Is that stacked to 3? I played with a single stack yesterday on my gear and it feels bad using Glacial spike and only getting effectively have the trait's value since, I assume, you only proc the chance for FoF from the spike itself. Peeling that off and going splitting/TV didn't feel much better, especially since you much a lot of procs that happen from launching icicles after BF flurry/IL.

The one I linked was comparing a single trait, though the bloodmallet one has all 3 traits.
The FoF portion of the trait is possibly the lowest impact portion of it, TC-ers have it generate an average of 4-5 extra FOF over a 5 minute fight, and that's if you don't use GS. The icicle damage is the strength of the trait.

My GS went from doing 60-70k crits to over 100k. My personal best was 120k.

[kheath812]

Is that stacked to 3? I played with a single stack yesterday on my gear and it feels bad using Glacial spike and only getting effectively have the trait's value since, I assume, you only proc the chance for FoF from the spike itself. Peeling that off and going splitting/TV didn't feel much better, especially since you much a lot of procs that happen from launching icicles after BF flurry/IL.

you get 5 separate 5% chances for fof when you launch GS

[Malfecto]

Ok, didn't realize it gave all 5 for GS. Thanks for the info guys!

[webmage]

currently testing flash freeze trait's fingers of frost component. i'm running 2 flash freeze pieces and i'm almost sure that its broken. chance to proc fof by glacial spike with 2xFlash Freeze pieces is not 50%...

edit: it's even lower then 25%...

correct me if i'm wrong

[nickseng]

currently testing flash freeze trait's fingers of frost component. i'm running 2 flash freeze pieces and i'm almost sure that its broken. chance to proc fof by glacial spike with 2xFlash Freeze pieces is not 50%...

edit: it's even lower then 25%...

correct me if i'm wrong

How .... did you arrive at 50%??

It's 5 individual 5% chance per GS to generate a FoF proc. It doesn't add up to 25% chance to proc either.

ETA: Oh, I see what happened. You thought stacking 2 FF traits increased the proc chance. It doesn't. Only the Icicle damage increases.

[Bhorin]

currently testing flash freeze trait's fingers of frost component. i'm running 2 flash freeze pieces and i'm almost sure that its broken. chance to proc fof by glacial spike with 2xFlash Freeze pieces is not 50%...

edit: it's even lower then 25%...

correct me if i'm wrong

The chance should be 1- ( (.95)^5 ) ~= 23% chance to proc. So your less than 25% finding is accurate.