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    I'm wondering if the folks in this thread are still so confident the shutdown is ending very soon with no wall given the developments of the last few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    I'm wondering if the folks in this thread are still so confident the shutdown is ending very soon with no wall given the developments of the last few days.
    It will last until the Republicans cave. There will be no wall funding. Separation of powers is very clearly defined in the Constitution, the President does not get to decide on the budget and it is frankly crazy that there are Republicans who want that to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    I'm wondering if the folks in this thread are still so confident the shutdown is ending very soon with no wall given the developments of the last few days.
    And most of us here are wondering when your self-absorbed ignorance in general will end.

    You think you have a magic bullet solution, and you somehow feel more validated the more people debunk your loony bin ideas instead. Like you know, the other thread literally only you and another nutter thought it was funny to claim moral superiority over an act of ignoring statistics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    It's Merry Fuckyoumas all around!

    House Republicans want 5 billion for this bullshit wall? They can pull it out of their own pockets.
    5 billion is nothing when we are in the hole 22 trillion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    I'm wondering if the folks in this thread are still so confident the shutdown is ending very soon with no wall given the developments of the last few days.
    I don't think it'll go for 'Months, or even years' like Trump claims it will (him being a habitual liar aside), but I do think the Shutdown might end up lasting until the end of the month at this rate.

    Democrats refuse to move on this - because why would they? - and Trump's going to refuse to move on this because it's the last thing he has. Everything else he's tried to accomplish has been a garbage fire of failure to the point where even the things he should be getting bipartisan praise for are being flubbed so horribly, and the GOP might realize this as well and are trying to drag this out in hopes they can swing the messaging war back into their favor to turn it onto the Democrats.

    We've seen it with the 'Shumer Shutdown' malarkey that might've been more effective if Trump didn't decide to storm the stage and boldly proclaim: "IT WAS ME, AMERICA. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    5 billion is nothing when we are in the hole 22 trillion.
    Another reason why you can take 5 billion out of your own pockets.

    Party of personal responsibility, please pay for your own things like responsible people do, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    Another reason why you can take 5 billion out of your own pockets.

    Party of personal responsibility, please pay for your own things like responsible people do, thanks.
    I thought the Democrats were all about handouts though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    I thought the Democrats were all about handouts though?
    Nope, that’s both parties. The republicans want to give money to people who don’t need it though, while the democrats give money to the needy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    I thought the Democrats were all about handouts though?
    Tired straw man aside; There's also the difference between $5B to a wall that may or may not even work and using those funds to aid in tangible issues like Infrastructure, Health Care and Poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Nope, that’s both parties. The republicans want to give money to people who don’t need it though, while the democrats give money to the needy.
    This made me laugh. Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Tired straw man aside; There's also the difference between $5B to a wall that may or may not even work and using those funds to aid in tangible issues like Infrastructure, Health Care and Poverty.
    Or even using it for actual border security. A drone with IR cameras, a handful of people and a helicopter can cover a large section of the border and doesn't cost five billion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    This made me laugh. Good one.
    Yeah, the truth can be funny for a deluded fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Yeah, the truth can be funny for a deluded fool.
    You really got me there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Or even using it for actual border security. A drone with IR cameras, a handful of people and a helicopter can cover a large section of the border and doesn't cost five billion.
    ...Yeah what the fuck why haven't more people pitched the Drone idea? I know they get a bad rep because of Attack Drones in the ME but having a small fleet of those on patrol sounds like a much better investment then a slab of concrete that can be defeated by a ladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    ...Yeah what the fuck why haven't more people pitched the Drone idea? I know they get a bad rep because of Attack Drones in the ME but having a small fleet of those on patrol sounds like a much better investment then a slab of concrete that can be defeated by a ladder.
    Because when it comes down to it nobody really cares about "border security" because it's such a tiny issue in the immigration debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    You really got me there!
    I sure did! Got anything else smarty pants? Your thin skin is quite the spectacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    Because when it comes down to it nobody really cares about "border security" because it's such a tiny issue in the immigration debate.
    Ah, yes I forgot. People care more about campaigning on issues then actually solving them. Silly me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    I sure did! Got anything else smarty pants? Your thin skin is quite the spectacle.
    What color is the best color? I’m going to need a thesis on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    What color is the best color? I’m going to need a thesis on it.
    Are you ok? Your rage has gotten you to post incoherent ramblings. I suggest you take some time off the internet for your own safety and health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    ...Yeah what the fuck why haven't more people pitched the Drone idea? I know they get a bad rep because of Attack Drones in the ME but having a small fleet of those on patrol sounds like a much better investment then a slab of concrete that can be defeated by a ladder.
    They have. Many times. Our President insists that wheels and walls are the height of human advancement.
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