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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    I could agree with this.

    ARR was built the way it was because I don't think the game designers truly believed the relaunch would work. When it did, and they had to start talking an expansion, they simply didn't have time to rework the entire quest experience from ARR to work with the expansion model - Now, on the third expansion, many playing the game actually DON'T have the ARR quests done and it would take a very long time for people to catch back up.

    Personally, going through it current during ARR, it wasn't bad.

    But I agree with people going through it now, it's a slog and would take far too long for a new player to catch up.

    I think it was more 'growing pains' and learning lessons along the way. For example Praetorium and the other 8 man dungeon before whose name I always forget. I think by the time HW came around they just got better at it and responded to criticism.

    Personally I think those two msq roulette duties ought to just be retooled into solo instance quests with npc help these days, but I suppose they may not have the time to go back and do that for old content. I mean this is the game where until this patch I think we couldn't teleport out of an inn room. I love FF XIV but now and then you find thing sthat make it really seem like the game is straining its budget.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Why? Like I said, MSQ =/ story
    Example: the trial by combat in Heavensward. When I first experienced it I thought it was epic, one of the best cutscenes and scenarios they'd released. I wanted to know what happened next and I was pumped. ...Until it ended and I realized it was back to the typical MMO fetch and kill quests. You see, not every single MSQ is tied to the overarching plot or is absolutely necessary to tell the story. There is a ton of filler, and I personally found that filler to be too much. That's it, it isn't any more complicated than that.

    I mean, ffs another poster mentioned a few pages ago having another 250 quests to go. That is ridiculous.
    Thanks for bearing with me. I do empathize with this sentiment. For me the story is good enough that I'll endure the MSQ in order to experience it, and the game means enough to me that if I REALLY don't want to do the MSQ, I'll drop some cash to get the story skip potion. I have no problem supporting SE in that way.

    I do think that they should put in some kind of abridged story version for previous expansions and returning players though. As I think you said before, that could cause problems with the pacing of character leveling because as much as I support an abridged story vehicle, I would not support that version allowing characters to level up at that same abridged pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    It does say on the screenshot the $25 option completes both ARR and Heavensward.

    It will be curious to see what the next potion is. Will they make it $18 for ARR + HW and $25 for ARR + HW + SB or will there be a third tier?

    I think they want to keep them separate so players can choose since some may want to skip ARR but play HW story and then play or skip SB. Hard to say the best route in that regard.

    Question for any who know - if you use a story skip potion, the MSQ is flagged as completed so the quests don't show up anymore, right?

    That might be a solution Square could explore. Find a way to let players buy an MSQ skip potion, a level boost potion, but keep MSQ quest chain open for play. That way players could be at current content and able to play with friends for endgame type stuff while going back and playing through the story at their leisure. Maybe that's the purpose of the MSQ "New Game+" they're talking about?
    From my understanding, when you use the MSQ skip potion it flags the MSQ quests as completed, so you can't go back and experience them, the same way that the level boost potion flags all job quests from 1-60 as completed so you can't go back and experience the class story.

    With the introduction of the New Game+ type feature where it will allow people to back an re-experience MSQ content this would be somewhat alleviated, but I'm not sure how that would roll out, will it just be battle content or everything, including the boring fetch quests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Projectmars View Post
    Although the Unskippable cutscenes bit makes people grumble a bit. Plenty of time to make a snack or visit the bathroom though.
    While true, if you're leveling, the reward is absolutely worth it. It's worth 40-60% of an xp bar (at least, I haven't calculated exactly, but it's a HUGE chunk) from the xp bonus alone, not to mention the xp from all of the mobs inside the instance.

    I usually watch youtube or anime while doing them, but there is technically a way to skip the cut scenes, it's just a pain. Manually close the application and sign back in and you'll have "skipped" the cut scene.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    While true, if you're leveling, the reward is absolutely worth it. It's worth 40-60% of an xp bar (at least, I haven't calculated exactly, but it's a HUGE chunk) from the xp bonus alone, not to mention the xp from all of the mobs inside the instance.

    I usually watch youtube or anime while doing them, but there is technically a way to skip the cut scenes, it's just a pain. Manually close the application and sign back in and you'll have "skipped" the cut scene.
    Yeah, I kinda underestimated how much EXP you get from the MSQ roulette until I did one to try to get to level 70... got 4 million exp from one run.

    EDIT: Someone in that run also said switching language to Japanese get it to go faster... but on the other hand you would probably still want to wait for everyone else anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    It does say on the screenshot the $25 option completes both ARR and Heavensward.
    Ha you're right. I didn't notice it. I guess it makes sense to offer separate purchases if you only want to skip certain quests but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the ARR only skip is very rarely purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -aiko- View Post
    Ha you're right. I didn't notice it. I guess it makes sense to offer separate purchases if you only want to skip certain quests but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the ARR only skip is very rarely purchased.
    It depends, common word in the community is that HW has much better narrative, voice acting, and quest flow than ARR, so with that ingrained in a new player's mind, they may enjoy the lore but not how the story is told, and want to get to the "good parts"

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