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    Remember what the Orcs gained from the Siege?

    Besides Garrosh They lost:


    The Kor'kron, Evil and gone forever

    Warsong Clan, Evil and gone forever

    Dragonmaw Clan, Evil and gone forever

    Zaela, Evil and gone forever

    Shokia, Evil and gone forever

    Nazgrim, Sided with Garrosh and gone from the Horde forever

    The idea of Orcs moving on from the past, gone forever

    The idea of Orcs being family with Tauren and Trolls, gone Forever

    Orcs having a racial leader, gone forever

    Orcs being anything but evil cannon fodder, gone forever.


    Now with Battle for Azeroth, more races of the Horde can join orcs on the evil cannon fodder team.

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    God damn it, Horde Bias !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    God damn it, Horde Bias !
    I want some alliance bias like Illidan killing Anduin and taking the alliance
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    No, she is my waifu. Stop posting and delete this thread immediately.
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    I want some alliance bias like Illidan killing Anduin and taking the alliance
    I mean... Emperor Illidan Stormrage sound pretty good to me.

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    Lol what a sad little list.
    Basically the same item repeated 7 different ways.

    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Lol what a sad little list.
    Basically the same item repeated 7 different ways.

    lmao
    How is it wrong as you claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    I want some alliance bias like Illidan killing Anduin and taking the alliance
    We need Anduin to support the cause of non-toxic masculinity.
    "I have ignored them for too long. They speak the truth, Arator. And you will hear them. I will make you hear them!"

    Alleria fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    How is it wrong as you claim?
    Because it is so petty and small?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Because it is so petty and small?
    Orcs losing all the characters and factions they had been building up for the past expansions, as well as the narrative they'd been building off since Lord of the Clans is petty and small now?

    You must be one of those "Horde Bias" people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Besides Garrosh They lost:


    The Kor'kron, Evil and gone forever - Was mainly just Blackrock Orcs from Rends Horde during the Siege.

    Warsong Clan, Evil and gone forever - Still active.

    Dragonmaw Clan, Evil and gone forever - Still active, as the new leader seems to be Gorfax and he appears when you get PvP Artifact skin.

    Zaela, Evil and gone forever - Yup, dead. Ruined her.

    Shokia, Evil and gone forever - Actually helped during the Siege, then joined the True Horde during the trial, never seen again, should still be alive.

    Nazgrim, Sided with Garrosh and gone from the Horde forever - More like, sided with his oath and Honor.

    The idea of Orcs moving on from the past, gone forever

    The idea of Orcs being family with Tauren and Trolls, gone Forever - Still a thing after the Siege.

    Orcs having a racial leader, gone forever - They have one, it's Saurfang.

    Orcs being anything but evil cannon fodder, gone forever. - Lol.


    Now with Battle for Azeroth, more races of the Horde can join orcs on the evil cannon fodder team.
    /10charslolololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by P5YKO-TP View Post
    /10charslolololol
    We don't have the Kor'kron anymore. They were even removed in BFA's beta and replaced with the generic "Horde guard."


    When was the last time, you saw the Warsong clan?

    Same with the Dragonmaw, minor cameo doesn't count.

    How is orcs being a family still mentioned? Orcs only show up as cannon fodder now.

    Saurfang has never the orc racial leader, Blizzard have consistently said orcs have no racial leader.

    What orcs besides Saurfang, oh and the 90 year old Eitrigg ever do anything anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    We don't have the Kor'kron anymore. They were even removed in BFA's beta and replaced with the generic "Horde guard."


    When was the last time, you saw the Warsong clan?

    Same with the Dragonmaw, minor cameo doesn't count.

    How is orcs being a family still mentioned? Orcs only show up as cannon fodder now.

    Saurfang has never the orc racial leader, Blizzard have consistently said orcs have no racial leader.

    What orcs besides Saurfang, oh and the 90 year old Eitrigg ever do anything anymore?
    1. The Kor'kron was the personal guard of the Warchief, I guess it's not needed anymore?

    2. When where they mentioned before the Siege?

    3. It shows they are still part of the Horde in some capacity, fuck off.

    4. Orcs dont have to be in the spotlight all the time.

    5. Then they've changed it. Fairly certain I've read that Thrall was their racial leader during WoD and then Saurfang.

    6. Orcs have been doing stuff since Vanilla up 'til Legion, do they need more screen time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P5YKO-TP View Post
    1. When where they mentioned before the Siege?

    2. It shows they are still part of the Horde in some capacity, fuck off.

    3. Orcs dont have to be in the spotlight all the time.

    4. Then they've changed it. Fairly certain I've read that Thrall was their racial leader during WoD and then Saurfang.

    5. Orcs have been doing stuff since Vanilla up 'til Legion, do they need more screen time?
    1. In Warcrimes where it was said they were all arrested. Now they don't appear in stuff like BFA, while the 7th Legion still does.

    2. They were a part of the narrative before.

    3. Because it has to be undead and Blood Elves doing everything I suppose. Meanwhile humans still get all the spotlight on the Alliance.

    4. Official site has always said orcs have no leader since the beginning of Warlords.

    5. Orcs have been doing nothing? Screentime of orcs as villains for the player to kill is not screen time for orc lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    I mean... Emperor Illidan Stormrage sound pretty good to me.
    With him repeating the same speech he did in Outland that would be badass, heck even Maiev will support Illidan if this mean exterminating the orcs or making them slaves like he did in hellfire citadel

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleria Windrunner View Post
    We need Anduin to support the cause of non-toxic masculinity.
    I found funny that statement when you have characters like Nathanos or Genn in the spotlight and even add racism in Saurfang during the short relates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varitok View Post
    No, she is my waifu. Stop posting and delete this thread immediately.
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    Voted Baine because... Well, Baine. Total nonsensical character, looks like World War II Italy, nobody really understands what role he's supposed to fill, not even himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    With him repeating the same speech he did in Outland that would be badass, heck even Maiev will support Illidan if this mean exterminating the orcs or making them slaves like he did in hellfire citadel
    Remember how Illidan kidnapping Mag'har and force-feeding them Fellblood to turn them into demonic slaves was glossed over in Legion, because orcs are only evil cannon fodder now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Orcs losing all the characters and factions they had been building up for the past expansions, as well as the narrative they'd been building off since Lord of the Clans is petty and small now?

    You must be one of those "Horde Bias" people.
    When you are crying about the Kor'kron or how the Orcs look mean.
    Yeah.

    Its pretty funny actually.

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    Well gotta make a choice.

    Revel in the war

    Or

    Honorable savage


    The first one is the better choice.
    Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    When you are crying about the Kor'kron or how the Orcs look mean.
    Yeah.

    Its pretty funny actually.
    Yup, you're one of those "Everything is Horde Bias" people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleria Windrunner View Post
    We need Anduin to support the cause of non-toxic masculinity.
    While you're right, there's a lot of irony to your sarcasm.

    The cause for the existence of characters like Anduin and Alleria is one and the same; Anduin with his non-toxic masculinity and Alleria as one of the "stronk wahmen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gann Stonespire View Post
    Yup, you're one of those "Everything is Horde Bias" people.
    Lmao thats the post you link to prove the bias argument? Alright well have fun complaining about orcs being unjustly shown as evil.


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