1. #1961
    Quote Originally Posted by Mukind View Post
    you guys are delusional if you think the campaign is a draw

    no one who will put any real hours into the game will care

    if you care about the campaign...You probably aren't an RTS fan. Story lol
    Is it really that hard to not force your opinion on others as if nothing else can be true? People can enjoy games in different ways than you and there's nothing wrong with that. One of my favorite RTS games was Age of Mythology and I did nothing but replay the campaigns because they were that fun.
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    No, Antifa are the real heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukind View Post
    It's a lot more fun to tower rush a person than the ai

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    Obviously I don't speak for everyone....Just RTS fans
    You've never gotten drunk and played the campaign. got it.

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    Page 100 for you 20posts per page lowbies
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  3. #1963
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadaverus View Post
    Warcraft 3 announced in 1999 (development began in early 1998).
    World of Warcraft born from experiments with engine of WC3 in 1999-2000, and announced later in 2001.

    So what came first the chicken or an egg?
    ? The point the other poster was making was that WoW was made as a response to fan maps and custom games in WC3, I noted that WoW started development at least a year and a half before Reign of Chaos was even released so their statement made no sense at all. I'm not claiming WoW was conceived of not released before Warcraft 3.

  4. #1964
    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingForBlizzcon View Post
    You've never gotten drunk and played the campaign. got it.

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    Also, page 50!

    Page 100 for you 20posts per page lowbies
    how you could find that more fun than drunk tower rushing a person again i have no idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukind View Post
    how you could find that more fun than drunk tower rushing a person again i have no idea
    Because you lose when drunk tower pushing a person and end up destroying your computer if you are the average stereotype drunk person?
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  6. #1966
    Quote Originally Posted by Mukind View Post
    you guys are delusional if you think the campaign is a draw

    no one who will put any real hours into the game will care

    if you care about the campaign...You probably aren't an RTS fan. Story lol
    The story of WC3 is being hyped by Blizzard to this day when it comes to WoW.

    Stop living under a rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    ? The point the other poster was making was that WoW was made as a response to fan maps and custom games in WC3, I noted that WoW started development at least a year and a half before Reign of Chaos was even released so their statement made no sense at all. I'm not claiming WoW was conceived of not released before Warcraft 3.
    That doesn't even make sense.

  7. #1967
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    The story of WC3 is being hyped by Blizzard to this day when it comes to WoW.

    Stop living under a rock.

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    That doesn't even make sense.
    Obviously, which is why I posted to refuse the statement, but it seems said poster is all but immune to any point of view that isn't their own in the first place.

  8. #1968
    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    I hope they will fix the icon so it will change with model.
    Oh, they probably will. It doesn’t seem like a complicated fix; it might be the kind which is relatively simple, so they leave it for the end while they handle the more technically delicate changes.

    We still have at least a month before release, right?

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    Gyrocopter pilot

    Gnome or Dwarf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Gyrocopter pilot

    Gnome or Dwarf?
    Dwarf probably
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  11. #1971
    I wonder if in the next update we will see some changes or not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I wonder if in the next update we will see some changes or not..
    Work, work
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingForBlizzcon View Post
    Work, work
    work is da poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    work is da poop
    Me not dat kinda orc
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  15. #1975
    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    You and a lot of other people. Personally, I like the female models and voices, and I'm always up for more options and customization, however, one thing that I heavily dislike, is being forced into things. And if it stays random, instead of being an additional option...I won't be happy. But yeah, it's 2019, so my hopes are...low. After all, nowadays male=bad female=good.

    Curious if they will genderbend old female heroes into males as well, or will things only work one way...oh, who am I kidding.
    I'm more curious as to why only the DK and DHs are getting this treatment.

    Almost all of the other heros except for maybe.....Mountain Kings, KotG, Lich, Crypt Lords, Dread lords, and a few of the neutral heros could all be both male and female.

    Hell a Female Arch Mage is one of the main characters of the story lol; and they chose to only make female versions for DK and DHs? Potm has lore reasons, some others too but most?

    ........5 dollar content packs? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddyfish View Post
    Messing around with the WE, there's plenty new doodad models for a nice Silvermoon revamp.
    Still the old Sunwell Model atm though.

    Quick Mock-up of different High Elf assets
    Could have sworn I saw a new Sunwell asset a bit ago. If they're redrawing the map to be like it's WoW layout it would be in the back though on SWP rather than in Silvermoon proper.
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  16. #1976
    Quote Originally Posted by AcidicSyn View Post
    and they chose to only make female versions for DK and DHs?
    The males are in the game, they just don't have models yet and are all represented by Arthas. They didn't choose to only make female versions, the female model simply happens to be the one that's defaulted in game right now.

    I would suspect this is done on purpose to get people to familiarize with the female, gauge feedback on how fans would react to something that is obviously new and divergent from classic War3. If it were just randomized and working-as-intended, people who don't often play undead might never see the female DK in action just due to RNG, and there wouldn't be much feedback and data gained on that.

    I mean to be honest, the biggest complaints so far have been 'I don't have male options!' and since Blizzard has always planned the male DK to be in there, there isn't really anything they have to worry about. IMO it would be a bigger concern to if people weren't even aware there was a female DK model at all.

    And to be honest, we're still gonna get a lot of that since only a very small tiny fraction of players follow beta and datamine news. The vast majority will likely not even be aware this game has Multiplayer skins, even when it's listed right on the 'package.

  17. #1977
    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    To summarize, some people don't like being forced into things, so while they support the additional customization and options of having male or female heroes, they aren't happy about this being not an additional option, but simply a "random" feature, where sometimes you will get hero of a gender that you did not want at the time. Those arguments are countered by the "progressive" and "tolerant" crowd, not with arguments, but as usual, with mere insults. Which, especially in Warcraft 3, make absolutely zero sense, since Warcraft was always known for it's iconic, strong female characters, which not a single person had a problem with. And yet, the "tolerant" crowd is in such a hurry to defend their own views attack everyone who has different views than them, that they completely ignore all arguments made by the "anti" crowd, and instead just call them "incels", and strut around the place like it's some kind of discussion-winning argument.

    In short, the usual.
    While I agree with the concept here. I do feel obligated to make one small correction.

    WarCraft 3 Not WarCraft in general, was known for it's iconic strong, female characters. Before WarCraft 3 the only Strong Female character was Aleria, who existed in just a few missions of Beyond the Dark Portal (The WC2 expansion) and whose character existed for the sake of there being an Elven hero unit (with BtDP being a hero focused story). Aleria is also incidentally the second female unit to exist across all previous WarCraft games, and the only one to exist across both WC2 games. (The first female unit in WarCraft game history of course being garona, who was unplayable in the WC1 orc campaign and served as a plot device)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Oh yeah, i want to have all these skins as an option that you can tick on in the menu and stuff like that, i doubt people will be forced on that when the game releases, because there are 3 versions of DK in game files and 3 versions of dh(info from one guy from the forums).

    I don't find randomized stuff like that enjoyable, but pretty much the discussions about that went different way and you have really outraged purists saying that female dk's don't fit the lore or female paladins don't fit the lore, because even ladder matches are now considered by those people as something big lorewise.
    female DKs do fit the lore; as the scourge killed indiscriminately.

    Female paladins however actually don't fit the lore or rather might not. It would be stupidly easy for blizzard to retcon it though as there isn't anything in the lore that specifically says that only men were allowed to join the Order of the Silver Hand. The first Paladins were men sure, the Knights with the highest virtue were recruited to form it (Uther, Tirion etc) and even some clerics who would then join the knighthood (Turalyon).

    But I can't really see anything that says that the Silver Hand ever made it a rule that would only allow men to join. Some might argue that The Alliance is based on human history, and in human history women could not be knights. But that doesn't really count imo. Blizz could kill that with a sentence that just said something like "While women didn't join the order in the early days, it wasn't due to any rule. Uther wouldn't turn away new recruits based on gender" and then blammo.

    If that isn't enough well then Joan the Maid says hi too lol.

    (tl;dr I agree with you people are effing silly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihsan997 View Post
    Perhaps Blizzard’s reasoning was that names for heroes are randomly generated, so the unit models ought to be randomized as well?

    In an MMO, forcing rather than offering options would be unforgivable. This is an RTS though, not an MMO, so maybe their thinking is that the connection between the player and an individual unit - hero or non - is supposed to be less personal.
    I demand Male mage and female priest units! Stop forcing male elves into the priesthood! equal rights for dwarven riflewomen!
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  18. #1978
    Quote Originally Posted by karzal View Post
    No retcons, some minor additions, such as the presence of Anasterian during the invasion of Quel´Thalas. They had planned some new missions to put characters such as Jaina and Sylvanas into a spotlight, but that idea has been scrapped due to mixed responses.
    Thank God for that. I hope that means there won't be any of the promised "fixing up" the dialogues and retconns that would follow because of it.

  19. #1979
    One thing I'd really like to see them change to match WoW is the design of the Tomb of Sargeras and Suramar.

  20. #1980
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Thank God for that. I hope that means there won't be any of the promised "fixing up" the dialogues and retconns that would follow because of it.
    They promised something else plus the option to play the old campaign. So I am not exactly sure what you are thankful about.

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