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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBoss View Post
    ...When a Call of Duty player tries another game
    /facepalm

    please go away with you..

  2. #142
    You're level 14...if you dont start enjoying it by level 25 then maybe it's not for you. But I wouldnt base my expectation off of the first like 15% of the game. RPGs build up over time.

  3. #143
    If you spacebar through Witcher 3 you are essentially missing the game.

    If you want to run around killing shit there are better games for that.

    Try Anthem.

  4. #144
    Kinda hard to get into the story if you start the game and skip all the dialog.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by maccajoe View Post

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    Yea what a stupid wild and stupid and substantiated claim. I bet you think its edgy teenagers who play Devil May Cry right? Anyone that grew up with the Witcher games now is "Older" the same as wow. Teenagers do no invest time into games this long. They play fortnub or Apex and if they can sit down enough Red Dead.
    no more stupid and wild then claiming that its got to be teenagers that hate witcher gameplay and adults must enjoy it, which was the claim i was responding to.

    the truth is a whole lot of us tolerate witcher 3 gameplay at best, becasue story and characters are worth it. Witcher 3 gameplay is flawed. its not for everyone. its better then prior games in a series, but its still. flawed.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Yea, that's the problem when you rely completely on story at the expense of gameplay... if you're not attached to the story... why play?

    Like if they made a GoT game it would have to have extremely good gameplay to get me to pick it up, I tried reading the books... 300 pages in I was still bored off my ass, I told someone who had read it all that and they're like "stick with it, it gets better around 500 pages in!" why... why should I have to read 500 damn pages for it to get good?
    I don't think my post was a criticism of story-based games in and of themselves; my favorite game ever, Planescape Torment, has an amazing story but crap gameplay after all. It's more a criticism as to the fact that two characters hold the entire thing together. If you don't like or don't care too much about Geralt and his relationship with Ciri, the first half of the game is just an endless repeating of Your Princess Is in Another Castle, and that would bore anyone.

    I don't think Witcher 3 is that story-based either. The gameplay is pretty good even if not awesometacular. It's just that the one thing that does shine in the game is its story and presentation, so of course if you can't get into it you'll be asking yourself what people see in it, just like I can ask myself what people see in Fortnite when I find the gameplay soporific.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    no more stupid and wild then claiming that its got to be teenagers that hate witcher gameplay and adults must enjoy it, which was the claim i was responding to.

    the truth is a whole lot of us tolerate witcher 3 gameplay at best, becasue story and characters are worth it. Witcher 3 gameplay is flawed. its not for everyone. its better then prior games in a series, but its still. flawed.
    That is a really good point and I agree. I enjoyed it for basically what you said was it's strong points. But the controls in the game sucked. But then again, I played it on a PC and I heard it is easier on a console. But the graphics, huge amount of content, story and chars, freedom of play style to some extent, made it very appealing to me. The first two I never finished. I liked the story and such, but they were so restrictive in how you played, you felt very much limited like the world was on some kind of rail system. Witcher 3 is far superior to the first two in so many ways.
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  8. #148
    Lol... you are playing an RPG and want to just skip all dialogue and quest text.... lol.... oof

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    no more stupid and wild then claiming that its got to be teenagers that hate witcher gameplay and adults must enjoy it, which was the claim i was responding to.

    the truth is a whole lot of us tolerate witcher 3 gameplay at best, becasue story and characters are worth it. Witcher 3 gameplay is flawed. its not for everyone. its better then prior games in a series, but its still. flawed.
    Ahhhh so you agree that both claims are stupid then? Well thats good.
    "the truth is a whole lot of us tolerate witcher 3 gameplay at best" Another one of those great claims sounds like projection to me. Most games are flawed. Its not for everyone>? Of course nothing is....

    Also the assumption that the majority of fans are older is based on logic. A) How old the series and how long ago the games came out 1 and 2. B) The type of material edgy teens dont play DMC or witcher anymore they are older. Edgy teens dont play Wow either that was LK days. Edgy teens play battle Royals.

    Sure these are statements i cant "prove" but they follow the same lines of why teens dont play wow (because they have grown up now)

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Xofa View Post
    Don't get me wrong I love RPG's.. I'm like the biggest fan ever of the Baldurs Gate series, however, in Witcher 3 I really feel it's all shallow with the dialog, no living world, no big variety of monsters lurking around? Is it because of my level / the place I am in the game?

    And no.. Diablo 3 is a freaking disgrace that deserves no mentions all.
    Your no living world comment is a bit weird, if anything Witcher 3 is the one RPG where the world changes for real with what you do in the story, sometimes even in side quests, instead of being just different cutscenes or missing npcs. Now im not gona judge you for taste i think that would be a mistake, perhaps you are not far enough to see those thing, but again if you dont like it, its ok to not like it? Its objectively a good game in general, lots of content that many people enjoy, high production value, etc.

    Now for gameplay, well it cant be worse then witcher 1 lol. But again gameplay being shit is not new to RPG genre, even in some of the best classics.
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  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by maccajoe View Post
    Ahhhh so you agree that both claims are stupid then? Well thats good.
    "the truth is a whole lot of us tolerate witcher 3 gameplay at best" Another one of those great claims sounds like projection to me. Most games are flawed. Its not for everyone>? Of course nothing is....

    Also the assumption that the majority of fans are older is based on logic. A) How old the series and how long ago the games came out 1 and 2. B) The type of material edgy teens dont play DMC or witcher anymore they are older. Edgy teens dont play Wow either that was LK days. Edgy teens play battle Royals.

    Sure these are statements i cant "prove" but they follow the same lines of why teens dont play wow (because they have grown up now)
    a whole lot of us implies a good number of players that enjoyed Witcher 3 for what it was - a flawed but still fantastic game including combat .... peculiarities. a whole lot of them are even in this thread. "a whole lot" is not even "most", let alone "all". so I fail to see where you are getting "projection" when I'm literally going by the statements of various people online, here and elsewhere.

    moreover, again with the whole "most fast are older. I'm glad you agree that its an assumption. becasue a whole lot of fans didn't discover Witcher until third game, and never played or heard of 1 or 2. may of those fans are younger. I know of multiple fans, creating art, writing fanfiction and so on.. that were still teenagers when they played Witcher 3. and the game is what got them to discover the books in a first place. they played it first and THEN read the books. they had gone back to triy the first 2 games as well, AFTER discovering third.

    last but not least. Teens most certainly play WoW. many of them are playing with their parents. becasue guess what, because WoW was the first MMO on the market that allowed for more casual solo play right from the start (yes even in Vanilla, compared to other available MMO's - Vanilla WoW was casual's heaven)... many of the people who even played in Vanilla, were adults. some with children who are teens ow. heck the game is old enough now that people who met in WoW and got married - are having teenage kids now.

    its the usual logical fallacy. just becasue so many teens enjoy various battle royale games, doesn't mean they ONLY enjoy battle royale games.

  12. #152
    Why people look down on teenagers lol? It's not like all these games we are talking about are that deep in story and emotinal aspects compared to everything else you can find in other sources. I actually miss the time when I was a teenager. I was actually good at playing video games back then.
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    Why people look down on teenagers lol? It's not like all these games we are talking about are that deep in story and emotinal aspects compared to everything else you can find in other sources. I actually miss the time when I was a teenager. I was actually good at playing video games back then.


    effect.

    honestly, just like adults, teens come in all kinds and preferences and interactions. some allowance should be made for general immaturity that you just cannot get away from, as teenage brains are still developing and their hormones are all over the place, but then again.. I have encountered some adults that i could have sworn were teenagers so /shrug

    that said... I have to disagree with assertion that video games are inherently less deep then other sources.

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  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    Why people look down on teenagers lol? It's not like all these games we are talking about are that deep in story and emotinal aspects compared to everything else you can find in other sources. I actually miss the time when I was a teenager. I was actually good at playing video games back then.
    So was I. Unfortunately for me, when I was a teenager, it involved playing text-based RPGs online. I got real good at typing "kill orc" over and over again, which is why I had a 100 wpm typing speed (which was pretty unusual for guys in the 90s).

    At least on my rogue, it was a series of three commands, "hide/aim head/ambush orc." Those were the days, man.

  16. #156
    Well, I will admit I find the Witcher series as a whole never impressed me. I see their merit but I was never wowed by them.

    Witcher 1 was the most interesting just for how janky it was. Serviceable but only barely.

    Witcher 2 was merely alright to me. More frustrating than anything and I really just thought the story was forgettable. It tried, but just didn't stick with me.

    Witcher 3 I get why it has its popularity. But the story, again just didn't click with me (the tail end of the main campaign just really felt like jumping the shark). The combat was annoying as ever and the open world personally just wasn't to my liking. I wanted more dungeons and such to explore and they went more of the grounded route and its mostly just tiny towns and caves that look more non descript than Skyrims. Personally I just found it dull. The expansions however I loved a lot, wish the rest of the games story was nearly as interesting as Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine.

    Then theres Geralt himself who just annoys me for some reason. I don't know why, his concept and the that of Witchers sound cool but he was always off putting to me. Probably the voice.

    Anyways, yeah sounds like OP really doesn't like rpgs. But, not all of us felt the series was perfect. My two cents no one wanted.
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  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Personman View Post
    Well, I will admit I find the Witcher series as a whole never impressed me. I see their merit but I was never wowed by them.

    Witcher 1 was the most interesting just for how janky it was. Serviceable but only barely.

    Witcher 2 was merely alright to me. More frustrating than anything and I really just thought the story was forgettable. It tried, but just didn't stick with me.

    Witcher 3 I get why it has its popularity. But the story, again just didn't click with me (the tail end of the main campaign just really felt like jumping the shark). The combat was annoying as ever and the open world personally just wasn't to my liking. I wanted more dungeons and such to explore and they went more of the grounded route and its mostly just tiny towns and caves that look more non descript than Skyrims. Personally I just found it dull. The expansions however I loved a lot, wish the rest of the games story was nearly as interesting as Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine.

    Then theres Geralt himself who just annoys me for some reason. I don't know why, his concept and the that of Witchers sound cool but he was always off putting to me. Probably the voice.

    Anyways, yeah sounds like OP really doesn't like rpgs. But, not all of us felt the series was perfect. My two cents no one wanted.
    Geralt is very VERY whiny. he's like that in the books and while you can make choices for him in game, his overall personality is still the one from the books. and its, well.. whiny :P so I can totally see how it can be off putting.

    and that's the thing about stories. different stories appeal to different people and there is nothing wrong with not connecting to a story. I mean... Song of Ice and Fire is highly acclaimed and highly celebrated, and J.R. Martin is considered to be this amazing writer.. and I could never get into his books. not over a decade ago and not now. so... to each their own!

    the key here is to accept the idea of to each their own and accept that when something doesn't resonate with you, its not becasue it must be bad and all these people who loved it are nuts - but rather because it just.... doesn't resonate with you personaly. as simple as that

  18. #158
    W3 is all about the story, visuals, and open world experience. All of which it IMO does better than any other game I have played. Where it falls off pretty hard is the combat. It isn't the worst thing ever, but it could definitely be a lot better. It isn't strategic enough to really think about and it isn't fast enough to be reflex or combo based. Raising the difficulty basically results in what I would call "cheesing" fights or just slowing things down. If this game went the direction of Dark Souls, DMC, or some slow strategy like Dragon Age 1 with its combat I think it would be significantly better.
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  19. #159
    Well yes, that's pretty much what I was saying =p. I'm not calling the games and their stories bad at all but they're wont be something something I'll revisit myself.

    I think what bugged me about Geralt more was his execution. Witchers are loathed and reviled around the world yet hes so famous and rubbing elbows with royalty and what not its like ok so what if random yokel calls you something mean. One of your best friends is a freaking Empress. They try to ride this sympathy angle for Geralt and witchers in general but its like it wants to have its cake and eat it too. It always stuck in my craw, mostly in 3, the other two is wasn't nearly as pronounced.

    His character just seems kinda inconsistent too in ways that I couldn't stand. The greatest example for me:

    To save Ciri Geralt, someone who has supposedly been misunderstood, spat on, risk his life for little to no thanks and wallowed in the under world for how long must be the perfect loving step father and have a snowball fight with her... ok. Right, that fits with him totally. The bastard wouldn't have a clue what to do with Ciri, give me a break. I mean hell wasn't a cop out reason for his monotone voice because he lost most of his emotions when he became a witcher? So that just makes it more ridiculous. I went with what I felt fit him the most and I got punished for it with a bad ending. That left me rather upset.

    It felt like two people were writing his story to me. In 3 especially. One wanted him to be this famous debonair hero saving the day and celebrating at fancy balls with virtues hanging off his sleeve and the other wanted an outcast vigilante helping the people in spite of their foolishness towards himself and each other. Someone really needed to pick one or the other and its clear the later was the correct choice.

    This may be me though. I like when characters stick to a concept rather closely and develop within those confines. Perhaps they tried to make someone more in between. Personally I don't think it worked, but I'm not claiming to be an expert.

  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Xofa View Post
    Hello everyone

    Literally everyone i've seen says The Witcher 3 is a godlike good game.. BUT.. I'm really struggling to like it. I absolute hate the dialog.. dialog every god damn where I go.. I wanna fight monsters, collect gear and fight monsters..! Not spam press space bar all over. I'm level 14 atm and I just arrived at Skellige and i'm so closed to being burned out.. My own fault for space bar though all dialog? In that case I can say I can't and won't be able to endure the dialog spam all over..

    Should I just give up or will the game get any better? My biggest problem in the beginning of the game was the voice of Geralt but now it's simply the dialog all over....

    What to do?
    What was strange for me the first time I played it, for about 2-3 hours I never got into it and just left the game alone for about a year. Decided to try it again and got hooked. It's still the best single player experience I have had in a game and the 2 DLCs are just as good as the original itself.

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