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    I understood what you were saying, I am pointing out it is not even worth considering it a "should."
    Yeah. We should never push for progress. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yeah. We should never push for progress. /s
    What you are suggesting isn't progress but rather gives the NFL a fully legal way to rig the playoffs.
    It would be a good way to make sure that the big market teams get in though.

    For example, let's say the NFL decided the punishment last year was the Patriots can't win the division (have to make it as wild card) ... well, the Patriots were terrible on the road last season, having to play potentially 3 road games to get the the Superbowl likely meant the Patriots won't make the Super Bowl.

    The NFL still gets the Patriots in the playoffs insuring viewers, and people like you get to see the Patriots punished ... seems like a win-win right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    What you are suggesting isn't progress but rather gives the NFL a fully legal way to rig the playoffs.
    It would be a good way to make sure that the big market teams get in though.

    For example, let's say the NFL decided the punishment last year was the Patriots can't win the division (have to make it as wild card) ... well, the Patriots were terrible on the road last season, having to play potentially 3 road games to get the the Superbowl likely meant the Patriots won't make the Super Bowl.

    The NFL still gets the Patriots in the playoffs insuring viewers, and people like you get to see the Patriots punished ... seems like a win-win right?
    It’s not a way to rig the playoffs, it’s a suitable punishment for institutionalized cheating... weird you think it’s rigging shit when a team has been cheating for over a decade... and that team just so happens to be the most successful in that time period. It’s more like putting a stop to the rigging than anything else.
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    Fuck yes, Bills in the playoffs, with a very outside chance at the division. Gotta beat the Pats next week in Foxboro to even think it though.


    January football here we go!!! I definitely think we have a Super Bowl caliber defense, though Duck Hodges is probably someone you should shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It’s not a way to rig the playoffs, it’s a suitable punishment for institutionalized cheating... weird you think it’s rigging shit when a team has been cheating for over a decade... and that team just so happens to be the most successful in that time period. It’s more like putting a stop to the rigging than anything else.
    Yeah, you don't seem to understand what rigging mean if you don't understand how what you want allows the NFL to legally rig games. Also, cheating is a meaningless term in the NFL. Cheating is any act to gain a competitive advantage ... literally every team cheats in the NFL. Every team has cheating in their record.

    However, the filming rules have nothing to do with any competitive advantage because get this it isn't against the rules to steal signals ... it is against the rules to film the sidelines from your own sideline or the press box. If the NFL was so worry about signals being stolen, why would they bother showing signals on the live games? The rules on filming are about the NFL controlling what tape of their product is available ... it's product control.

    And deflategate was so piss poor science from a company with a history of giving its client the evidence they want ... no rational person would believe it. And it was proven in those conditions, the Patriots balls could have deflated by the amount shown by actual scientists doing controlled experiments, which the agency hasn't done.

    If I believed in conspiracy theories, I would believe that the Patriots are "cheaters" story is just something that the NFL drummed up to make people hate the Patriots enough so they will watch the games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Cheating is any act to gain a competitive advantage ...
    Your posts are entirely absurd, but this is the worst of it, can't really have a discussion when you arbitrarily redefine words.
    /s

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    The broadcasts go out of their way to never show coordinators making signals. Even on the All-22 film, which is the "raw footage," is purely on-the-field, and given to teams for film study (and to subscribers of NFL Gamepass as a bonus). It's a myth that you can "just see the signals" during the game anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Your posts are entirely absurd, but this is the worst of it, can't really have a discussion when you arbitrarily redefine words.
    I am sorry, I assumed that most people would understand the implied unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    The broadcasts go out of their way to never show coordinators making signals. Even on the All-22 film, which is the "raw footage," is purely on-the-field, and given to teams for film study (and to subscribers of NFL Gamepass as a bonus). It's a myth that you can "just see the signals" during the game anyways.
    I have literally watched NFL games showing signals before. What are you talking about?
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    Well, I am excited for the Bills clinching a playoff spot. I'm not used to that. I think they can hang with the afc teams, BUT the offense needs to prove they can score more than 14-17 vs a good defense.

    I am still an Allen supporter but he has struggled vs good defenses. Then again, I think the bills lead the league for passes hitting the receiver in both hands and still being dropped.
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    So I ran the numbers and apparently the Packers would still need the Rams to beat the 49ers next week to have a shot at the #1 seed if the 49ers beat Seattle.

    So go Rams.
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    So I ran the numbers and apparently the Packers would still need the Rams to beat the 49ers next week to have a shot at the #1 seed if the 49ers beat Seattle.

    So go Rams.
    It's so weird to me that an Aaron Rodgers-led Packers team is flying so far under the radar. Literally no one is talking about them with any conviction in the NFC. Hell, in re: NFC North, I hear more about the Vikings being good, and the Bears attempting to overcome Mitchell Trubisky's awfulness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    It's so weird to me that an Aaron Rodgers-led Packers team is flying so far under the radar. Literally no one is talking about them with any conviction in the NFC. Hell, in re: NFC North, I hear more about the Vikings being good, and the Bears attempting to overcome Mitchell Trubisky's awfulness.
    Last week the media seemed to universally agree that the Packers actually suck and it's a question how they managed to make it to 11-3.

    They're a team that scores 21 points consistently, and wins if their defense can hold the other team under 21. Which it's been doing against like 75% of the League. Problem is the other 25% is teams like the 49ers, Seahawks, and Saints.

    That's really their big bugaboo they need to solve. Either the defense needs to step from above average to elite (unlikely) or the offense needs to step from good to great (possible if they could find a reliable safety valve receiver).










    Also apparently the reporting is "multiple" Browns players yelled at the Cardinals bench to "come get me."

    Honestly Kitchens has flown under the radar as a coach that should probably be one and done, too. He's lost the locker room at this point.

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    Kitchens should be canned, but wont be. Ron Rivera would be a good hire for them.

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    Well, Josh Gordon reportedly once against suspended for breaking the league's drug policy. Did they forget to tell him that weed is still banned by the NFL even if it is legal to buy in Seattle?

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    All but confirms the patriots knowing he relapsed.

    Sad shit, but hes been given enough second chances.

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    Fuck we claimed Jenkins, well maybe this means I won't have to watch Eli Apple eat shit after tonight.

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    Will Grier gonna get the start for Carolina, not a surprise, there are decisions to come this offseason and they need to evaluate.
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    So remember when Tom Coughlin said he didn't like optional offseason workouts being optional?

    Apparently that extended to rehab and has turned into a big mess now for the Jags.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffseason-rehab

    This feels like the prelude to a full house cleaning in Jacksonville this offseason.
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    Brissett's scattershot arm is really helping us out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Last week the media seemed to universally agree that the Packers actually suck and it's a question how they managed to make it to 11-3.

    They're a team that scores 21 points consistently, and wins if their defense can hold the other team under 21. Which it's been doing against like 75% of the League. Problem is the other 25% is teams like the 49ers, Seahawks, and Saints.

    That's really their big bugaboo they need to solve. Either the defense needs to step from above average to elite (unlikely) or the offense needs to step from good to great (possible if they could find a reliable safety valve receiver).










    Also apparently the reporting is "multiple" Browns players yelled at the Cardinals bench to "come get me."

    Honestly Kitchens has flown under the radar as a coach that should probably be one and done, too. He's lost the locker room at this point.

    https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/statu...54367601807360
    I imagine a lot of it is due to the fact that their best wins were a home game against the Vikings to start the season and a Mahomes-less Chiefs, followed by wins against the Cowboys and Bears. That coupled with 2 or their 3 losses being really bad (blowout by the Niners and Chargers) and a loss to the Eagles makes it easy to understand why they've been flying under the radar. It's really hard to gauge how good they really are.

    On the bright side, we can pretty much give them the NFC North crown now because I don't see Cousins getting his first MNF win in a huge home game against the Packers. It's the kind of game the Vikings are renowned for choking in. Hell I think the Vikings will be lucky to beat the Bears in their last game. Would not surprise me in the least to see them drop their last two games and miss the playoffs. Would be very on-brand for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    It's so weird to me that an Aaron Rodgers-led Packers team is flying so far under the radar. Literally no one is talking about them with any conviction in the NFC. Hell, in re: NFC North, I hear more about the Vikings being good, and the Bears attempting to overcome Mitchell Trubisky's awfulness.
    Yeah I brought this up a few weeks ago, the truth is they're just not great. They're slightly above average in everything but turnovers, where I believe they have a strong +, and that's carried them to a misleading record.

    But with Rodgers they always have the threat of going supernova at any moment. Most people forget that their SB winning year their D was top 5 (or better) and their O was meh until the last few weeks where they had to run the table and get lucky to even get in the playoffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Last week the media seemed to universally agree that the Packers actually suck and it's a question how they managed to make it to 11-3.

    They're a team that scores 21 points consistently, and wins if their defense can hold the other team under 21. Which it's been doing against like 75% of the League. Problem is the other 25% is teams like the 49ers, Seahawks, and Saints.
    I would argue the Seahawks are just as mediocre as the Packers but have the ability to step up vs better teams, which the Packers lack. Like if they played each other in the playoffs I don't think it would be a great team vs a pretender.

    What blows my mind atm is the Rams, Raiders, and Browns still being in playoff contention.

    If Steelers make the playoffs Tomlin coach of the year easy.
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