Patriots Owner Bob Kraft Charged With Soliciting Prostitution

[oplawlz]

I think the article has more credibility than your previous assumption, which isn’t based on anything but your own personal belief. Just saying...

It doesn't actually. It's a paper outlining a theory which is only a formalized assumption put out specifically to be reviewed and debated. I can link you to some pretty thorough papers on why the earth is flat, for example.

[Mistame]

I think the article has more credibility than your previous assumption, which isn’t based on anything but your own personal belief. Just saying...

The article you're referring to points out that decriminalized prostitution reduces the demand of trafficked sex workers in favor of legal sex workers.

[Daedius]

Old fool hasn't discovered Tinder.

[gondrin]

My original comment said the article disputes what therealstegblob was saying, which I took issue with because his statement isn’t based on anything but personal opinions. He said it as if it was facts - “If prostitution were legalized and regulated, you'd destroy (or at least deal a pretty harsh blow) to human trafficking operations.”

What is he basing that on? Where’s he getting the info? How does he know that’s actually what would happen?

He doesn’t know.

Even if it were legalized, there would still be trafficked victims as there is still drug dealers where drugs are decriminalized or outright legal and sold in shops. This is due to the fact that while it may be legal then, the cost will go up and there are those who want to partake in said services but either cant or wont pay so they will go the illegal route. Anyone who claims anything else hasn't seen how cheap people can truly be.

[oplawlz]

Even if it were legalized, there would still be trafficked victims as there is still drug dealers where drugs are decriminalized or outright legal and sold in shops. This is due to the fact that while it may be legal then, the cost will go up and there are those who want to partake in said services but either cant or wont pay so they will go the illegal route. Anyone who claims anything else hasn't seen how cheap people can truly be.

There is a huge difference between the two. Doing drugs is, to the druggy, a victimless crime. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves if they buy some bad crack. The drugs also can't come to the police and say they're being taken advantage of, or decide to stop being drugs.

The U.S. has worker protections. There are myriad laws and agencies in place to keep out things like child labor or dangerous worker conditions. No, they aren't 100% effective - but the vast majority of people working in America work safely and with the knowledge that if they're taken advantage of they can go to the police or the local news station.

[Collegeguy]

Did they arrest Tom Brady yet for all his crimes?

[therealstegblob]

I think the article has more credibility than your previous assumption, which isn’t based on anything but your own personal belief. Just saying...

Cool. I think the article doesn't come to any definite answer, as it outright admits it doesn't. I also point out it's using data from parts of the world that I do not think, pretty clearly, can also be 1:1 applied to America.

But that's a great non-argument you came up with.

[Super Kami Dende]

Who cares though? So he got a Rub and Tug.. *The Horror*

[Newname1234567890]

Well considering the women in the Spa were basically sex slaves, I think a lot of people care.

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They were.

If it were made legal it would have regulations and rights for the sex workers. Like all other forms of employment

[Ealyssa]

bah...Legalize objectifying women...right?

Which isn't illegal ????

But I guess you like saying what women are or arent allowed to do with their bodies.

[GreenJesus]

The biggest hurdle in legal prostitution is that no one really wants it to be legal except a small percentage of the participants. No one wants to clean it up. No one wants to deal with the zoning and all that nonsense.

Prostitution right now is a lot of untaxed, unregulated, and a lot of bad people have their hands in it. Predatory pimps, the hardcore drug scene, trafficker, and all types of predatory behavior found at all levels.

THats true. No one wants it in THEIR neighbor hood. It brings all sort of deviants and trash and bad behavior around it. Property values would go to the ground.

[XangXu]

THats true. No one wants it in THEIR neighbor hood. It brings all sort of deviants and trash and bad behavior around it. Property values would go to the ground.

Only because it is illegal.

Nobody wants liqour stores or weed stores next to the playground, that is absurd. But the idea of prostitution being illegal is bullshit.

Wha happens if you take the monetary value away? What happens if women just start offering sex without a charge? What then?

Arrest them?

Prostitution being illegal os ihumane and a scummy religous idea that needs to be abolished. It harkens back to the idea that some people can’t stand the thought of other people enjoying themselves.

[Stelio Kontos]

"Prostitution should be legal everywhere!" argues angry, lonely internet nerds on a video game forum.

[gondrin]

"Prostitution should be legal everywhere!" argues angry, lonely internet nerds on a video game forum.

Not really. There are quite a few people that have proposed the same idea as the ones proposed here. They all say the same thing that the government shouldn't be outlawing or prohibiting what someone does with their own body as long as they are a willing participant and aren't being forcefully coerced by an outside party.

Think of this. Porn is nothing but prostitution that is filmed and features a 3rd party in most cases. The only differences between porn and actual illegal prostitution is the person paying is generally not the one participating and the recipient signs documentation stating they are of legal age and agree to be on camera for commercial purposes. This may vary by locality as laws governing this vary by country. Like the argument that marijuana should be regulated the same as alcohol, the same can be said for this subject. To allow one and outlaw another is just asinine as there would still be laws against trafficking just like there are still laws against dealing drugs out of your home even when said drugs are legal to purchase from a dispensary and regulated for those that actually want to work in said industry. The arguments brought forth are generally ones from emotional or religious morality standpoint and not one from a logical viewpoint.

[Stelio Kontos]

Not really. There are quite a few people that have proposed the same idea as the ones proposed here. They all say the same thing that the government shouldn't be outlawing or prohibiting what someone does with their own body as long as they are a willing participant and aren't being forcefully coerced by an outside party.

Think of this. Porn is nothing but prostitution that is filmed and features a 3rd party in most cases. The only differences between porn and actual illegal prostitution is the person paying is generally not the one participating and the recipient signs documentation stating they are of legal age and agree to be on camera for commercial purposes. This may vary by locality as laws governing this vary by country. Like the argument that marijuana should be regulated the same as alcohol, the same can be said for this subject. To allow one and outlaw another is just asinine as there would still be laws against trafficking just like there are still laws against dealing drugs out of your home even when said drugs are legal to purchase from a dispensary and regulated for those that actually want to work in said industry. The arguments brought forth are generally ones from emotional or religious morality standpoint and not one from a logical viewpoint.

I'm just taking the piss. It's just funny considering the image one usually gets of an angry ranting gamer that can only get a woman to touch them if there's payment involved. While I don't think prostitution should be legal, it's not really a hill I'm willing to plant my flag and fight over.

[Flarelaine]

There would be fewer incels if prostitution became legal... shit, we gotta get this going!

I'm not so sure. It has been proposed before and... well, incels are not made by not having sex, but by oversized hurt egos. Even on these boards I've seen claims they shouldn't need to pay when others get sex for free.

[icausewipes]

[Heladys]

I'm not so sure. It has been proposed before and... well, incels are not made by not having sex, but by oversized hurt egos. Even on these boards I've seen claims they shouldn't need to pay when others get sex for free.

Incels are the gift that keeps on giving - if the gift you wanted is a bunch of worthless losers who deserve to be curbstomped into a red mush.