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  1. #121
    Ugly/attractive is often decently subjective, so what you find attractive someone else might not.
    But there's a difference walking around calling people ugly, and someone wanting to know IF they are considered attractive or not.
    One of them is just spewing vile shit and being toxic for no reason, the other one is giving them the truth when they ask for it.

  2. #122
    Beauty has been always in the eye of the beholder.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I thought that was a guy at first but reading the text... it's a woman?! S/he looks disgusting. Is it a woman or a guy?
    woman.

    you can tell from the low cut shirt and the slope of her tits.

    be thankful i picked that one, i've actually seen worse.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I thought that was a guy at first but reading the text... it's a woman?! S/he looks disgusting. Is it a woman or a guy?
    Pretty sure that the bottom text is added by someone else.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why is it cruel? u are just saying the truth...
    There is a huge difference between truth and opinion. Some would say you are an ugly person for asking questions like this. Does that make it true for all of us?
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  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Except Aphrodite didn't fucking exist and most women never looked like that now or then.
    For years, classical Greek sculpture was believed to be a perfectionist fantasy - an impossible ideal, but we now think a number of the exquisite statues from the 5th to the 3rd Centuries BC were in fact cast from life - a real person was covered with plaster, and the mould created was then used to make the sculpture.

    For the Greeks a beautiful body was considered direct evidence of a beautiful mind. They even had a word for it - kaloskagathos - which meant being gorgeous to look at, and hence being a good person.

    Beauty was frequently a competitive sport. Beauty contests - kallisteia - were a regular fixture in the training grounds of the Olympics at Elis and on the islands of Tenedos and Lesbos, where women were judged as they walked to and fro

    There was even a contest in honour of Aphrodite Kallipugos - Aphrodite of the beautiful buttocks, where women were judged based on their butts

    Let's try Ancient Rome! Beauty masks and makeup :
    To keep their skin beautiful, women put at night a mask called tectorium (traditionally invented by Popea, Emperor Nero's wife), which they would remove the next day with milk. They exfoliated their bodies by smearing olive oil and then applying calcium carbonate or with pumice stones. Then they rinsed the mixture with water or with scented oils (cedar, myrrh, pine, lily, saffron, quince, jara, violet or roses). Women had to be careful with cosmetics because applying them too much was considered only proper for lupae (prostitutes)

    The most used cosmetic was colour for the cheeks, which was considered healthy (although Plutarch advises to not use too much)
    Long eyelashes were considered very beautiful (from the writings of Pliny, some women were totally obsessed with them). Eyes were shaped as big as possible with black antimony powder

    Anything sounds familiar?
    I stand by the statement. Not much has changed the last 2000 years
    and the geek shall inherit the earth

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by msdos View Post
    People have stereotyped ideas of beauty.
    they are stereotypes for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    they are stereotypes for a reason.
    And what reason would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d00mGuArD View Post
    For years, classical Greek sculpture was believed to be a perfectionist fantasy - an impossible ideal, but we now think a number of the exquisite statues from the 5th to the 3rd Centuries BC were in fact cast from life - a real person was covered with plaster, and the mould created was then used to make the sculpture.

    For the Greeks a beautiful body was considered direct evidence of a beautiful mind. They even had a word for it - kaloskagathos - which meant being gorgeous to look at, and hence being a good person.

    Beauty was frequently a competitive sport. Beauty contests - kallisteia - were a regular fixture in the training grounds of the Olympics at Elis and on the islands of Tenedos and Lesbos, where women were judged as they walked to and fro

    There was even a contest in honour of Aphrodite Kallipugos - Aphrodite of the beautiful buttocks, where women were judged based on their butts

    Let's try Ancient Rome! Beauty masks and makeup :
    To keep their skin beautiful, women put at night a mask called tectorium (traditionally invented by Popea, Emperor Nero's wife), which they would remove the next day with milk. They exfoliated their bodies by smearing olive oil and then applying calcium carbonate or with pumice stones. Then they rinsed the mixture with water or with scented oils (cedar, myrrh, pine, lily, saffron, quince, jara, violet or roses). Women had to be careful with cosmetics because applying them too much was considered only proper for lupae (prostitutes)

    The most used cosmetic was colour for the cheeks, which was considered healthy (although Plutarch advises to not use too much)
    Long eyelashes were considered very beautiful (from the writings of Pliny, some women were totally obsessed with them). Eyes were shaped as big as possible with black antimony powder

    Anything sounds familiar?
    I stand by the statement. Not much has changed the last 2000 years
    Nah just circumstancial nonsense. Like looking at PornHub as a premise of defining beauty or sex. When porn by its definition is manufactured. Made up art.

    You can't draw anymore conclusions about objective beauty in Grece by such a standard either.
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  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    oh, i'm all about sexual freedom. be as much of a degenerate as you want.

    but at least consider not cursing another person to live with a problem they had no choice in having.
    I will dont worry.

    I have no intention of breeding. But forcing people I've grown up around to be sterilized given some of them would make better parents than most people have is fucking wrong. The people I dont know deserve a shot too. Can you at least backtrack on the force or coercive side of your point so I can move on instead of being reminded that people still want to do the whole eugenics thing?

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by smityx View Post
    Cute af. Reminds me of my pug.
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  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Unless you subscribe also to the thinking behind that purported myth that white people are objectively the most attractive. Which is precisely where that bullshit comes from.
    Uhh, what? I'm talking about how different (environmental) factors can influence different cultures on what they largely perceive to be attractive and how they have changed for different human societies across millennia.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i'm saying that just because something or someone is ugly, doesn't mean it can't be attractive.

    it's ugly, objectively. attraction to it doesn't change the fact.

    http://i.imgur.com/rN9bCPD.jpg

    ^that is objectively ugly. there's still some sick motherfucker out there that'd fuck it.
    "It"? You realize that's a human being and not a rock, right?

    Well, this is when this turns into semantics.

    Typically when one person is attracted to another, the very idea of the attraction makes the person they're attracted to "attractive". That person may not be attractive to you, but if people truly go off of personality over looks, then that person could still be a nice person and be someone that someone else could date and find appealing.

    Or putting it in a more relatable way, maybe he's a supportive and loving guy and he has an equally well-rounded partner who doesn't mind that he's on the larger side.
    "The true malice is attributing malicion where there is none."

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    why do we make them believe they are not ugly? if they are ugly... why should we not say they are ugly?
    Because we don't all share your specific tastes.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by msdos View Post
    And what reason would that be?
    That majority think X is more beautiful than Y thus X will be portraited as the standard for beauty.
    It's not rocket surgery.

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    In every single way.....

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  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    You forgot the whole bra thing
    Bras don't always help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    That majority think X is more beautiful than Y thus X will be portraited as the standard for beauty.
    It's not rocket surgery.
    Why did you add the "its not rocket surgery" part in? Why do the combative people respond to me?

    You're so brilliant and smart, is that what you're looking for?

    Standard for beauty
    I never thought like this. That's what I mean by stereotype. You have to be stereotyping in the first place for there to even be a "standard", which is a social construct in the first place.

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    That majority think X is more beautiful than Y thus X will be portraited as the standard for beauty.
    It's not rocket surgery.
    You mean rocket science. Looks ain't all that matters. Not to everyone.

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