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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Yeah, let's make a big protest because Blizzard is giving us a discount on a paid service just in time when people will actually probably want to purchase that paid service.

    Are you also up in arms when a chocolate bar is discounted in your local store because it's an obvious ploy to sell more chocolate bars?

    F in hell
    Well ofc, because more people will buy them and maybe I will not be able to buy them! shady stuff! death to companies! long live entitlement! long live XXI century! long live... wait wait I can't maintain this gotta puke, brb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darklogrus View Post
    Nope, it entices a player to buy a XXX Gold token bought by 20$ and sold by other player to pay 15$ worth the gold for a race change...
    Fixed it for ya, I've yet to know someone who has paid for a token, maybe all my friends are cheap as fuck hahahaha.

    For me, and for everyone in that case that uses gold to get that race change it's "Free" no matter how you look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    I read the OP multiple times, and read most of the comments as well, and...I'm still missing the problem?

    So, they finally give you Zandalari. A lot of people want them for some weird reason, even the people who are constantly on the forums shitting on the game, talking about how there's nothing to do, yada yada yada...Now, somehow, because your character will have slightly different pixels, the game will become great again. Okey, makes no sense, but fine.

    In order to get Zandalari once they're released, you can either level one up (after the changes, leveling is EXTREMELY fast nowadays, plus you get heritage armor, if that's your thing), or you can race change to one. Before the sale, you would have to pay whatever the price is in your region. People who wanted Zandalari, and didn't want to level one up, would pay that price, regardless what it is. Now, they can save 30% of their money. Somehow, that is scum move by Blizzard. Why? Who the fuck knows.

    Literally the only reason people complain, is because Blizzard will earn money. That's it. No other reason. Not a single soul will be hurt in the process, everyone will actually benefit (yes, Blizzard will benefit the most, tragic, I know), since they can save some money for something they were about to get anyway, and yet, people like OP will still find a reason to complain. It's the exact same story every time Blizzard does any kind of promotion, or, well, anything nowadays. Free boat? Bad, FORCING people to buy 6 months sub, obviously no one in their right mind would do it if not for boat. Shop mounts? Once again, FORCING people at gunpoint to buy them, even though, once again, no one in their right mind even wants those mounts. Hell, at this point, if Blizzard gave a free one year sub to everyone, people like OP and other mindless drones in this thread would STILL find a way to complain about it.

    There's a lot of good points people make when they complain about the state of the game itself, but as far as complaining about stuff like sales on character services? Yeah, that's complaining for the sake of complaining. No rational arguments whatsoever. None.
    It's so hard to find someone like you in the forums these days, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    I do like the game.

    I just dislike the direction the game and company has been going in as of late.

    I've said countless times WoW is one of my top 10 games. Doesn't mean I have to accept everything it does or can't be critical.

    A good fan knows how to be critical of a product they love. Least in my opinion. Rather than seeing either just one side or the other.
    Then do things right ffs, complaining because of a 30% discount it's just stupid. Complaining about islands, warfronts and azerite armor it's a very big okey because they are bad, but a simple 30% discount on a race, that actually benefit both parties reeks of simple hate/entitlement

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    There is no grand conspiracy here, its obviously to entice people into race changing into the new allied races.

    I am not gonna pretend to be mad about this, I couldn't give less of a shit how they make their money, their services are overpriced which is why I don't use them. That and the fact that I do want the heritage armor.
    I agree with you that the services are over priced, with one exception: server transfers. Honestly, they can probably make all the other ones $5 each and people would probably use it more. But server transfers are a different story; that is something that you don't want to make cheaper, not often anyway, otherwise it will encourage people to constantly server transfer and make a huge profit on the AH by going from low pop servers to high pop servers. I do wish they would add a mass server transfer option in for those people with lots of toons though, that would be handy

  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sencha View Post
    Hope people are not stupid enough to fall into that cash grab trap.
    What people do with their money is entirely up to them and not you, so if people want to do a race change then that is their choice..

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyux View Post
    How is this at all a negative for Blizzard? It's a win-win:

    - The people that were already going to buy a race change get it cheaper.
    - The people that wanted a race change but couldn't afford it now can.
    - Blizzard gets more money to spend on things.

    Where's the downside?
    Blizzard is going to make more allied-races and use more discounts to earn more money for cheaper job instead of making a proper content.

    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    What people do with their money is entirely up to them and not you, so if people want to do a race change then that is their choice..
    Although I agree with that statement, I think that this is the reason why gaming industry is going more P2W and idiotic.
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Although I agree with that statement, I think that this is the reason why gaming industry is going more P2W and idiotic.
    ^ This.

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  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyux View Post
    How is this at all a negative for Blizzard? It's a win-win:

    - The people that were already going to buy a race change get it cheaper.
    - The people that wanted a race change but couldn't afford it now can.
    - Blizzard gets more money to spend on things.

    Where's the downside?
    and the players who don t buy the race change will be ganked by the overpowered new race

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    So giving access day 1’means less people race changing overall? Get out of here with that weak ass arguement. This doesn’t even make sense. Keep in mind, Acti Blizz that you are hating on is the same company that you are praising for Classic.
    Your hate is strong, but quit letting it control you. I miss when you actually had smart things to talk about instead of just random hate posts that don’t even make sense.

    People are literally complaining that Blizz is saving people money. Yeah, it might get people on the fence to go over to the other side, but it’s not like people who don’t even care are suddenly screaming “take my money!”
    He indeed was someone who I had good times reading, now he is just a shadow, just as he describes the company he loved.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Gasparde View Post
    These discounts are nice and all that, yet the actual services are still way overpriced, even at their reduced rates - you can appreciate the special offer and still have a negative opinion about the subject as a whole.

    This is 100% obviously not something they're doing out of good will. They're doing this because their finance guys told them that there'll be more money to make if they do this... so they did it. Like, again, you can appreciate the reduced prices and at the same time still be mad about the still stupidly overpriced prices.
    That's true. I could get behind the level boost pricing, but everything else should realistically be lowered.

  9. #189
    Sounds like they know that Zandalari are very highly anticipated and they're offering a discount for the hundreds of people that are definitely going to race change. Sounds like a nice courtesy. If they wanted to be money hungry this time, they would just make people pay full price, because we all know everyone that wants to race change would pay every cent of it. Hell, they could raise the price and people would still play for it. They would grumble and moan about it, but they would still pay it. Somehow peoples' bad decision making and lack of self control are the company's fault.

    I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Blizzard is going to make more allied-races and use more discounts to earn more money for cheaper job instead of making a proper content
    They're going to do that either way anyway. They've made it clear where their focus is, and it's not on making "proper content".
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  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Blizzard is going to make more allied-races and use more discounts to earn more money for cheaper job instead of making a proper content.



    Although I agree with that statement, I think that this is the reason why gaming industry is going more P2W and idiotic.
    if people didnt want to buy them , companies wouldnt sell them .

    we live in digital era - time to realise that digital good have certain value in people's eyes.
    Last edited by kamuimac; 2019-03-12 at 10:18 AM.

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    if people didnt want to buy them , companies wouldnt sell them .

    we live in digital era - time to realise that digital good have certain value in people's eyes.
    What does that have to do with my comment?

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Exactly. I mean the system is already scummy enough it was kinda obvious they'd try and entice people into it with the allied races they've kept people waiting for.

    Just Blizzard reaching it's usual EA levels of cash grabbing really.
    People are literally going to do it no matter what. I feel like this is just looking for shit to be mad about. People would 100% buy these race changes without the 30% discount, now they can do it but for slightly less. Ofc it was timed specifically for this, it shouldn’t even need to be said but you’d be out of your mind if you don’t think people would buy the race change with or without the discount.

    However I think blizzard services are too expensive as is. I hate the cash shop itself as well. We pay a sub fee and we buy the expansion for 50$ yet they charge 25-30$ for services and 15-25$ for cash shop items that should be in the game with no extra fee since we already pay monthly for the game and once for the expansion on top of that. I think their model is ridiculous and it’s been this way since Wrath but I don’t think discounting race changes when people were going to race change regardless is a negative thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyux View Post
    How is this at all a negative for Blizzard? It's a win-win:

    - The people that were already going to buy a race change get it cheaper.
    - The people that wanted a race change but couldn't afford it now can.
    - Blizzard gets more money to spend on things.

    Where's the downside?
    Pretty much.

    Do I think it's still extremely overpriced? Yeah, but how am I going to tell Blizzard to lower the cost if people are fine with paying it, lol? They could probably bump it up to $40 and still sell it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Blizzard is going to make more allied-races and use more discounts to earn more money for cheaper job instead of making a proper content.



    Although I agree with that statement, I think that this is the reason why gaming industry is going more P2W and idiotic.
    While true, it is still up to the individual to decide whether or not they spend the money.. All we can give them is an opinion, it is up to them to take heed or not..

  15. #195
    Are we supposed to be shocked that Blizzard wants us to buy the things they offer us?

    I mean I´m all for being against a subscription game that also has micro transaction, but since this type of service (race changes) is one of the products they are selling us, of course they are also going to promote them at a time when interest in them is going to be high. There really is no secret evil plan or mastermind strategy here.
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  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Elias01 View Post
    Price cut is there to boost race changes. Ofc people what wanted to race change would do it even without discount. But there is lot of people what would never consider it but now with discount they will.
    I had a token reserved in case they were going to do this so fom me it's "Free", Oh well I was lucky and got the money from BOE's from the raids so I did not waste any time farming the gold, it is literally free for me so I'm glad and love this discount.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Sencha View Post
    Hope people are not stupid enough to fall into that cash grab trap.
    Yep.

    Dreadwake sub runs out soon thank god. Gone will be the memory of me paying for 6 months of a game that barely saw any huge content outside a raid.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2019-03-12 at 10:54 AM.

  18. #198
    Wait Blizzard is employing marketing strategies to boost sales! How dare they!

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    They know they fucked up. They've come out countless times and said they didn't get things right. Over and over again. Azerite gear, RNG, lack of deterministic rewards, islands, warfronts, GCD changes, terrible class designs, specs just flat-out terrible despite beta feedback, majority of youtubers, streamers, community peronalities in unison regarding the state of the game, layoffs and restructuring within Blizzard despite a record year.

    So much of that could have been mended with one gesture. Such a missed opportunity to do something great and show the community means more than just dollars to them. Even with the discount I'm paying only slightly less than I was before the June price hike (for no apparent reason)

    Hell, this isn't even my idea. I heard it in a Taliesin and Evitel video. Even those shills get it
    Yo can trow all the shit you want to blizzard but not to my tali!! *Mad* hahahahaha

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