Demo questions, and updated 8.1.5 opener.

[Nephcyte]

Can someone please clarify how do pets and buffs interact

Grimoire felguard isnt affected by Demonic tyrant right? It buffs the dmg but not the duration.

DT buffs the dmg and duration on imps and dread stalkers.

So should i have EP up before i summon imps and dreadstalker or if i cast it after i summoned them they will still get the benefit from EP.

Same for DT, since u cant use implosion on the end of the cast of Demonic tyrant if you have Baleful Invocation do you just use the 3 first shards to get EP for tyrant?

So do those pets snapshot your stats when u summon them or they will get any buffs applied dynamically when i get them like EP, trinket procs/uses pot and other stuff (tyrant, grimoire, dreadstalkers etc)

The fact that u cant just cast implosion after tyrant is so annoying now and feels much more clunkier.

I checked the lockonestopshop and im not sure their rotation is updated to 8.1.5 (maybe it is because it doesn't say cast implosion right after you summon DT)

So this is their recommended opener:

Pre-cast Demonbolt
Cast Doom, if talented
Cast Bilescourge Bombers, if talented
Cast Hand of Gul'dan
Soul Strike, if talented
Build to 5 Soul Shards
Implosion
Cast Grimoire: Felguard if talented
Build to 5 Soul Shards
Cast Summon Vilefiend, if talented
Build to 5 Soul Shards
Cast Call Dreadstalkers
Build to 5 Soul Shards
Cast Hand of Gul'dan
Build to 3 Soul Shards
Cast Hand of Gul'dan
Cast Demonic Strength or Doom (again), if talented, or Shadowbolt
Cast Summon Demonic Tyrant

Iv done some quick math here and it seems like implosion would end by the time you summon demonic tyrant using that priority.

Any thoughts?

[hellhamster]

You are supposed to Implosion around 9 secs or sooner prior to Tyrant and Implosion the first set of imps after Tyrant is spawned.

I would do this assuming no Doom or Vilefiend or Bombers for raiding purposes when you usually don't sit on instant Demonbolts like you do on m+ from previous pulls to build big tyrants at the start:

Pre-cast Demonbolt
Hand of guldan
Soul Strike
Shadowbolt
Implosion
Dreadstalkers
Shadowbolt build to 5 shards
Hand of guldan
Soul Strike or instant Demonbolts if you got procs
Hand of guldan shard dump
Tyrant
Hand of guldan
etc etc
Implosion as soon as Imps spawn

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Correction, Both Grimoire: Felguard and Summon Vilefiend have their durations buffed by Demonic Tyrant. You should combine these when they line up, but generally don't delay Tyrant unless you will only get one more cast of each off in the fight.

[Shandalar]

Just stop playing demon. Useless crap actually.

[hellhamster]

Just stop playing demon. Useless crap actually.

It's still the best single target turret spec in the game with top 3 sustained aoe, as well as the best warlock m+ spec.

[muto]

Precast Demonbolt
Hand of Gul’dan
Dreadstalkers
Soulstrike
Implosion
Grim Felguard
Shadowbolt x5
Hand of Gul’dan
Soulstrike
Hand of Gul’dan
Demonic Strength
Summon Tyrant
Hand of Gul’dan
Demonbolt Proc
Implosion