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    Scarab Lord Mister Cheese's Avatar
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    Kiwi Farms under fire. Owner won't co-operate with NZ authorities.

    So recently with what happened with christchurch the NZ authorities have been trying to get a hold of anyone on offbrand websites and gathering information. Rather than linking to a random article I can just go straight to the source. Joshua Moon recieved an email from a Detective and he gave him a response along the lines of "fuck you and your shithole country."

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    On 3/17/2019 6:12 AM, MICHAEL, John (JP) wrote:

    Good afternoon

    I am hoping that you can help us with an investigation the New Zealand Police are working on.

    On 15 March 2019 there was a shooting in New Zealand with multiple fatalities at two mosques in the city of Christchurch.

    The alleged offender in this matter is a Brenton TARRANT.

    At around the time of the shooting there were a number of posts and links posted on kiwifarms.net <http://kiwifarms.net> relating to the shooting and TARRANT

    We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc linked to these posts pending a formal legal request .

    Could you please advise what legal process you require for this request and also confirm preservation of the data requested pending legal process.

    Kind regards

    John

    John Michael_
    _Detective Senior Sergeant*
    Is this a joke? I'm not turning over information about my users. The person responsible for posting the video and manifesto PDF is myself.

    I feel real bad for you guys, you've got a quiet nation and now this attack is going to be the first thing people think of for the next 10 years when they hear the name New Zealand, but you can't do this. Tell your superiors they're going to make the entire country and its government look like clowns by trying to censor the Internet. You're a small, irrelevant island nation barely more recognizable than any other nameless pacific sovereignty. You do not have the clout to eradicate a video from the Internet and you do not have the legal reach to imprison everyone whose posted it. If anyone turns over to you the information they're asking for they're not only cowards, but they're fucking idiots.

    My name is Joshua Moon, I'm a US Citizen living overseas. My company is contained within a Florida company. If you need an address to send physical documents to this works.

    Lolcow LLC
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    If you're wondering, no. Kiwi Farms has nothing to do with New Zealand. Our name is a pointed jab at some of the mushmouthed autistic people we make fun of. Absolutely nothing about our community is NZ oriented.

    And I don't give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law say about sharing your email. Fuck you and fuck your shithole country.

    - Josh
    Hi Josh

    Appreciate your quick response.

    Will definitely consider what you have said.

    Regards

    John

    John Michael
    Detective Senior Sergeant
    I have no doubt that the NZ police want the emails and IPs of people on the site so they can arrest anyone in NZ that has an account or has even visited kiwifarms. Because they have most likely downloaded the video and the manifesto from it and taken information from the dedicated thread. They have a thread dedicated to the shooting like they do for a lot of large events like this. And individuals that draw interest. And it has ALL of the information. Which includes a pdf of the manifesto as well as a direct download of the video itself.

    Link to the original thread.

    Do you think that Moon is in the right? That he should keep his users information private? Or should he hand over all the information on his website?
    Last edited by Mister Cheese; 2019-03-21 at 10:56 PM.

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    And I don't give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law say about sharing your email.
    Made me laugh a little.

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    That was unnecessarily rude of him.
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    Seems ridiculously rude of the guy. He could have just said no and left it at that rather than acting like a complete dickhole.
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    Because fuck you, that's why.

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    I mean, sure he may be in the right, but he didn't need to be a total cuntwad about it.
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    That’s a good response to a government abusing its power over its populace.

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    the NZ government deserves this harsh language, given their authoritarian behavior recently.

    good on this guy.

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    Hilarious. Shouldn't NZ have to get permission from the US before investigating anyway? Just because it's online doesn't mean the citizen/company isn't still protected by the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    Hilarious. Shouldn't NZ have to get permission from the US before investigating anyway? Just because it's online doesn't mean the citizen/company isn't still protected by the US.
    Kiwi is slang for New Zealander so I'm assuming that the detective thought it was a NZ based website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Seems ridiculously rude of the guy. He could have just said no and left it at that rather than acting like a complete dickhole.
    not that rude considering NZ is trying to arrest anyone they can in possession of the video. the guy had received lots of emails from lots of people, harassing him and some foolishly trying to get his website taken down.
    Last edited by zhero; 2019-03-21 at 11:17 PM.

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    Damn that guy is a asshole.

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    Business owner is a piece of shit.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Okay. I'll stop sharing my views.

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    Geez those NZ authoritarians are lowlifes.

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    Americans wonder why they are hated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Americans wonder why they are hated.
    because they don't believe someone should get arrested for possessing a video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhero View Post
    because they don't believe someone should get arrested for possessing a video?
    This guy literally believes we should kill all Muslims and is an anti-semite.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Okay. I'll stop sharing my views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Americans wonder why they are hated.
    Harsh language is much better than using nice language while trying to arrest and imprison a bunch of people over sharing a video. The NZ authorities are far worse in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Americans wonder why they are hated.

    There are assholes like this the world over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    Harsh language is much better than using nice language while trying to arrest and imprison a bunch of people over sharing a video. The NZ authorities are far worse in this situation.
    Not really. The guy is sharing this shit because he wants a literal genocide to happen.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Okay. I'll stop sharing my views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    This guy literally believes we should kill all Muslims and is an anti-semite.
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    Not really. The guy is sharing this shit because he wants a literal genocide to happen.
    do you have any citation for these claims?

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    That's amazing. The NZ government is doing exactly what the terrorist wanted. But what do you expect from a Left/Greens minority coalition government that is exercising their authoritarian power as all leftist governments tend to do eventually. Horse-mouth Ardern finally has the shackles free to impose authoritarian rule
    Last edited by Th3Scourge; 2019-03-21 at 11:29 PM.

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