Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ...
3
4
5
6
7
... LastLast
  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by tripleh View Post
    Some how Danuser and Alex are gonna try to make it out that Sylvannas is a hero towards the end of BFA. After she causes mass genocide with her forsaken troops with the deathcamps they had on darkshore.Torturing shackled nightelves during the alliance questline. Along with her hitler like playstyle. Imo there probably gonna skip past the faction stuff only to push for Azshara and N'zoth. Without dealing with the elephant in the room, hoping players forget what has happened. Some how we are suppose to believe that the raised nightelves would willingly follow Sylvannas after she killed them. Yet she lacks the power that Nerzuhl/lichking had that could control the undead. So heres hoping that next round of layoffs has Danuser and Alex on the list.
    Bullshit aside, I think there are some nice points about Sylvanas' goals being obfuscated. It's actually a genuine mystery here of whether she's just an evil hag or a brilliant strategist or knows something major we don't know yet and trying to counter it, as opposed to Azshara and N'zoth who are about as subtle in their intentions as elephant's trumpeting.

  2. #82
    The Lightbringer Soon-TM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Netherstorm
    Posts
    3,409
    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    Vanilla had almost zero story
    I guess that all those quests in Searing Gorge and Burning Steppes about Ragnaros and the DI dwarves were non-existant, then. Or all those bugs-related quests that you encountered in southern Kalimdor, that became the more numerous the closer you were to Silithus. I guess that Naxxramas also came out of nowhere, because everything you did in the Plaguelands didn't count... Come on.
    Last edited by Soon-TM; 2019-03-25 at 10:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    Thrall will humblebrag about how he doesn't want it [to be Warchief].
    Saurfang'll probably die or say he's 'too tired'.
    Baine will gasp for air as he plops Anduin's boot out of his mouth and say 'I'll be High King of the Horde!'.

  3. #83
    Remove the now and you nailed it.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Zka View Post
    Story in a videogame is like story in a porn movie. Irrelevant and just an excuse for engaging in action.
    Best quote of the day

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    I guess that all those quests in Searing Gorge and Burning Steppes about Ragnaros and the DI dwarves were non-existant, then. Or all those bugs-related quests that you encountered in southern Kalimdor, that became the more numerous the closer you were to Silithus. I guess that Naxxramas also came out of nowhere, because everything you did in the Plaguelands didn't count... Come on.
    I kinda feel weird there. I just.... don't remember... at all. At least the Ragnaros stuff. I remember entering the Molten Core and needing to read external stuff as to why he had to go down. Like, I know I did those zones, yet, nothing about it felt memorable enough?
    There is a faint memory of the bugs all over Kalimdor, even in the Barrens, but it never felt... unified, just hints. I am not sure why I did not really pick it up. I think it was that it didn't really feel connected to AQ, just a weird bug pest problem.
    As to Naxx, yeah that one came out of nowhere for me. There like was the gate in Stratholme, but it was a mystery till the release of Naxx to me.

    Not sure why nothing really stood out to me in terms of story. Not sure if it was lack of english knowledge. Not sure if it was how spread out stuff was. Not sure if it was individual quests that I just ignored what was said other then 'go here to do x' since it took forever to level. Not sure if it was because I ended up skipping a lot of relevant quests because they were group quests?

    As to current stories. The six zones had good stories, more has stuck about them in memory then most other expansion zone stories. However, the grand story of the war and azeroth dying is just... bad, in particular in letting us know what we need to know.
    I'm an altoholic since 2005.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevied View Post
    Best quote of the day
    Then you and the guy you quoted never played a good story game or an proper rpg.

    Not everything is bad currently but a lot of the story is broken, especially story that involves the horde is a dumpster fire.
    Last edited by Hellspawn; 2019-03-25 at 11:15 PM.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Brenz View Post
    The problem with this expansion, they are trying to do too much while at the same time somehow not doing enough.

    2 main story expansion themes, the faction war and azshara, they are trying to squeeze into one xpac. Both stories inadequate.
    There has been very little introduction to azshara, just BTW don't forget about this, one of the most iconic villains in our franchise, just duct taped to the side of the xpac.

    They have split the story between the factions, a really bad idea as not everybody plays both sides.
    As an alliance player, how the fuck did I even end up at uldir, it was ridiculous, how did they not see that fault.

    Anyway, blizzard writing be shit, game is shit, bla bla

    - - - Updated - - -



    FF14 says hi

    - - - Updated - - -



    Don't criticise mah gaem reeeeeeeee
    Azshara annoys us since day one of Vanilla (there is even a region with her name), what other introduction do we need?

  8. #88
    The lore has been a shitshow since Cata.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieChicken View Post
    WoW story was shit since BC
    im sorry but story telling in classic was absolute garbage and same in BC

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    I don't know .. it feels like a disney movie or something. I don't sympathize with the villian ... they are all a bit comic. Even the naga, I don't know any character except for Azshara and I don't know about her struggle; about the naga struggle, it must be really hard being a naga. The writing has been shit.
    LOL nobody plays for the storys.

  11. #91
    The Lightbringer
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Demacia
    Posts
    3,087
    Vanilla didn't reallllly have a big overarching storyline as such because it was a setting more than a story. The setting was cool, it had lots of elements and factions I liked even if they repeatedly get shit on at every chance like the Scarlet Crusade. Still pissed off they are pretty much proven 100% right about the fucking Forsaken but noooo, they're still just generic bad guys because "the Light is bad too lol". Legion's story was very very rushed and the Illidanwank was just the biggest and most blatant bullshit you could imagine until BFA came along. BFA would have worked if it was Sylvanas actually doing shit, not Nathanos. He's the most bullshit I've ever seen. It'd still be a weak story but you wouldn't have self-insert OC DONUT STEEL characters involved out of nowhere.

    BC's story was cool, I actually liked going on the trail of Illidan and shit. It had cool locations and worked because I didn't expect much. Wrath's story finished off the Lich King story and I loved every minute of that expansion, including the storyline. Cata's story with Garrosh was good but I didn't give a fuck about any of the dragon shit. MoP's story got interesting towards the end with Garrosh and the rest, while not interesting to me, was at least told well and not annoying to go through. Warlords would have ACTUALLY been good if the Iron Horde were made into a credible threat somehow and like 3/4 of the storyline and character development was gutted for reasons. Seriously, the fucking 3-minute videos had better storytelling in them than the entire fucking expansion. It's retarded. Legion started off interestingly enough and some of the class hall campaigns were really good (some weren't) and Suramar was a nice experience too. The problem was after Tomb, it just engaged retard mode power levels and both the storytelling AND the story itself instantly died with it as it became pure Illidanwank.

    BFA's not over yet and I'm liking the Alliance storyline, such as it is. Dunno why Jaina's undead brother was brought back from the sea when they could have just used her dad. She got her other brother back with his navy, dunno why she needed an undead one that nobody really knew or cared much about. Why not her dad though? It'd be a fucking big deal to her character AND her mum AND it would have been very well foreshadowed in cinematics and questlines and besides Arthas, getting her dad killed was pretty much the biggest deal she had other than losing Theramore. Getting him back would have been BIG and it would have added a whole extra layer of conflict to her with distrusting him. Now? No foreshadowing, no buildup, just "lol here's your brother he's totally not gonna backstab you even though he has a dagger at his back in the cinematic huehuehue". If you didn't follow what happened with the Horde, you'd have had no fucking idea who he was or how he got there. It's a gigantic missed opportunity and for me, even more than shitting on the Night Elves and wanking Sylvanas' new OC lover at every chance, sums up the storytelling of this expansion.
    Paladin Bash has spoken.

  12. #92
    Dreadlord
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    wales UK
    Posts
    897
    Its still one of the biggest issues I have with BFA.
    Legion was basic but it kept building with clear direction, the entire faction war just felt forced and pointless.
    Key Characters that could end this "war" missing with no mention.

    seems to be playing out faction war, both sides take huge losses in come the old gods to exploit that.
    the new zones are stunning but yet again being let down by the story
    ;

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    Unpopular opinion (probably) but I think BfA's story is a lot better than Legion's. there are a lot more twists and turns in BfA than there have been in well the last few expansions
    I think BFA has a better story on the micro level (interactions between individuals), and Legion on the general macro level thematically. The new writers they've hired seem to more into that style.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Bullshit aside, I think there are some nice points about Sylvanas' goals being obfuscated. It's actually a genuine mystery here of whether she's just an evil hag or a brilliant strategist or knows something major we don't know yet and trying to counter it, as opposed to Azshara and N'zoth who are about as subtle in their intentions as elephant's trumpeting.
    Yeah kinda doubt that you can call her brillant. She got triggered by Delaryn, then threw a bitchfit ordering the burning of Teldrassil. Yet Danuser had it to were the catapults were some how able to hit Teldrassil from Darkshore. They wrote themselves into a corner now, seeing as the newly raised forsaken are said to have red eyes. Like Derek,Sira and Delaryn. Giving off the speculation that there being controlled now. (Setting up Derek to end up killing Katherine soon, when he tries to target Jaina.) Yet Delaryn and Sira were raised by players without Sylvannas around. So we are to believe now that Sylvannas some how has lichking abilities to control the undead. Loads of bad writing in BFA, activision needs to replace the narrative team/overhaul them. Bringing in new memebers.

  15. #95
    High Overlord Vejah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    127
    I wouldn't go as far as calling it shit but it is certainly not as interesting as legion, in my opinion. While Azeroth is terribly wounded she seems pretty much on the back burner. I don't feel engaged in that part of the story. Then there's also Ashvane to never have been heard of again?

  16. #96
    I loved the zone stories in Vanilla. The game was significantly more immersive than it is now. Also this railroad track questing/story direction that has been in the game since WoD is shithouse. It's meant to be an MMO, let me figure out where to go on my own accord

    Also, the story was significantly more immersive when it didn't center on key faction characters. It turns the game into a shitty daytime soap opera

  17. #97
    It's been crap since the beginning, the delivery has been particularly bad this expansion though.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    Unpopular opinion (probably) but I think BfA's story is a lot better than Legion's. there are a lot more twists and turns in BfA than there have been in well the last few expansions
    While I do agree with you on this point, I also would like point out that even though the plot is somewhat interesting, the delivery is so bad that the story as a whole feels like a Disney movie.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Darkener View Post
    If you've never worked with Orthodox Jews then you have no idea how dirty they are. Yes, they are very dirty and I don't mean just hygiene
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    most of the rioters were racist black people with a personal hatred for white people, and it was those bigots who were in fact the primary force engaged in the anarchistic and lawless behavior in Charlottesville.

  18. #98
    From wotlk it went down, legion pulled a bit, but went down again in bfa

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleDuck View Post
    While I do agree with you on this point, I also would like point out that even though the plot is somewhat interesting, the delivery is so bad that the story as a whole feels like a Disney movie.
    At least with Disney movies you'll get a catchy song or two. Maybe that's all that BFA needs.
    No surrender! 70 Vanguard - The Star Forge

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alopex Major View Post
    At least with Disney movies you'll get a catchy song or two. Maybe that's all that BFA needs.


    In before "grr I hate Jaina, everything in WoW and my life too"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •