so just to clarify:
does the Wheel of time character have mirror images? honest question, because i really dont know. And I would accept the fact, that they just wanted to add a reference character to Wheel of Time. But the question is, why did they name him Blademaster, even if the character in WoT is named Blademaster. Because it automaticly bridges the connection to the WoW Blademasters. They easily could have named him Swordmaster to stop this "confusion".
And with giving him the same abilities and put him in the spotlight (they could have taken another character, maybe another Vindicator) its kinda like "look guys, the Draenei have the same Blademasters as the Orcs have".
Sure, it can be just a reference to WoT. But thats kinda confusing and a big chunk new lore.
Again, if they just put a reference into the game, why come so close with something else that already is established and colide with it? (being that Blademasters where orc units, even in the Horde > No Tauren Troll or Ogre Blademaster)
And i am not saying it is just a coincident. I just think that is unlikely.
Because now, we do have the confimation that other races, Draenei in particular, can become Blademasters. This character makes this canon.
And I am not against that. I just find it curious.
Blademasters are as much Warriors as Navy Seals are Soldiers.
A possible thought of a Blademaster about Warriors
"They shout, they curse, stabbing wildly; more brawlers than warriors. They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part"
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we don't know that he didn't.
like i said already, there are fel orcs in the legion(we see fel orc blademasters, jubei'thos) and the army of light somehow made it to alternate draenor at some point, because we find alleria's arrow in shadowmoon valley, and that's where they got their un-mutated elekks.
I don't get the confusion. Obvious reference character is a reference...
what did they need to brand his blade and dubbed him kinslayer?
ON the blademaster bit, acting like it's unique for ONE group to grab a melee weapon and train to mastery? Blademaster is like monk or warrior or rogue.... you grab your preferred weapon and skills and train them. The rest is just rule of cool and someone trying to copy pasta character abilities.
Iknowright. I'm so curious to this day how the fudge Is he a Blademaster, I can imagine an Interesting story where as a young Draenei he was taught to be a Blademaster by the Burning Blades only to then realize he Is loyal to his people Instead, ran away from the orcs, murdering his way past their ranks and becoming the first and last Draenei Blademaster with an orcish sword that he re-forged In the light/draenei's image.
If only they just added that, I'd be happy. It takes a few sentances and literally 1 minute that I spent to make that shit up to make people happy about the Lore behind a character. And I'm a Roleplayer, have been for 14 years on WoW and It doesn't even have to take that to make up a basic story like that.
What the fudge do you mean It has no significance, If you don't care about Lore what are you doing here? He clearly uses abilities similar to Burning Blade Blademasters, It's a specific line of traits and mannerisms to their clan and their orcs. Myself being a giant Orc and Grom Hellscream fanboy, I was curious how Is it a Draenei got to be a Blademaster with abilities like an Orc Blademaster.
Did he steal one of their swords that grants them such abilities and reforged It Into a more light-based draenei sword? Too bad Blizzard just does these things for "Cool" or "Reference" sake and nothing else. No real lore explenation, no cool speculations. It's just "Oh he's there to be cool/to be a reference" nothing else and that's a damn shame.
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No, he did not meet an Orc Blademaster. There could be some interesting lore behind this. Yes, they also did not give him a banner. But maybe because there are not Banners of the Army of Light? He could have had an alliance banner for sure. Weird they did not use that. Polearm is another thing. There are Two Handes Swords in Hellfire Citadel wich are to me the real Blademaster weapons, but of course there is this famous Polearm Lantresor and i think it was Rend drop. An updated version of this would be awesome. I think they went with the Sword he uses because it is the draenei style.
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you got me there. I really do love to be able to play a Blademaster hero class, (big surprise given my mmo champ stuff I show, i know) but still it is really interesting to me. But more interesting is, that no one seems to talk about it.
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But there are not Macemasters or Axemasters. Blademaster is not just someone who uses a blade masterfully. it is a special unit from wc3 that comes with special abilities and you can say code of conduct i guess
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I am glad i am not the only one thinking like that. I really would love to see blizz expand the lore around that character or that story why there is a Draenei Blademaster. And, since I have been caught. I really do want Blademasters as a playble class in wow. Was totally happy when Samwise Didier intrduces Samuro to HotS (caught it after a few seconds while he live drawed the character on stream) and was totally surprised about Telaamon
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well the thing is, I get that the WoT character is named Blademaster. But this character colides with the lore of wow. sure they can just say, he was the only one, there are no more Draenei Blademaster. Fair point. But this just opens up the possibility that there are Blademasters for both factions. Meaning there is a possible class in there. And the lore. Of course all the intersting lore if you like the Blademaster lore itself, like i do
Blademasters are as much Warriors as Navy Seals are Soldiers.
A possible thought of a Blademaster about Warriors
"They shout, they curse, stabbing wildly; more brawlers than warriors. They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part"
(300)
Aaaaaaactually you may want to go read the dungeon journal for the scarlet cathedral rework in MOP.
Edit: Ah I'll just post it.
Brother Korloff first learned of the monk's deadly arts from pandaren ambassadors as they journeyed through Azeroth. When the crusader demonstrated this martial style to his superiors, they unanimously ordered Korloff to train an entire generation of initiates in the ways of the monk.
Well... actually.... we have some axemasters
Oathsworn
Frostborn
And then some variants of armsmen who specialized in various weaponry like the old school Arms specs for Pole/axe (eventually fused into poleaxe), and mace.
There are also spearmaster npc's
Honestly you're arguing that there can only be one instance of the term PERIOD because it was a hero unit in the RTS... so was brewmaster and look at the class that is universally added to every race except for the cata ones.
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this is not anywhere on a level like Hakkar Houndmaster/Soulflayer. This is guys who are good with swords....
Just to point out... Scarlet Monks were a unit in the original Scarlet Monastery as well.
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just saying they existed prior to the spread of monks training everyone in their martial ways. At least as I understand the only thing close to a 'monk' trainer prior to the Mists parting were wannabe rogue npc's like Master Kang.
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Ah, Cheers, I stand corrected. But I still hope there wont be any Macemasters, that just sounds wrong.
I know, that there are other Blademasters. I think the Klaxxi have some of them in their ranks, so i am not strickly arguing that there are only the Blademasters I talk about in wow. To me Telaamon, is a Blademaster as you could describe the unit in WC3 and the Blademasters I refer to (Ishi, Wanakada, Samuro, Mankrik) He uses the same ability and his style is close (could be coincident). He has no shoulders, but he lacks the flag, the beadnecklace and the free chest so thats to the style. Still, If Blizz just wanted to put a reference character into the game, why create such a confusion? Why not call him Swordmaster? Same thing. Why give him one of the signature moves of the Blademaster unit?
Ulitmatively they created the possibility of Draenei Blademasters, the same as the unit in WC3. If that is on purpose or just a coincident is blizzards decision.
Blademasters are as much Warriors as Navy Seals are Soldiers.
A possible thought of a Blademaster about Warriors
"They shout, they curse, stabbing wildly; more brawlers than warriors. They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part"
(300)
"Blademaster" probably meant that he was really, really good with swords & crap.
They always told me I would miss my family... but I never miss from close range.
Blademasters are as much Warriors as Navy Seals are Soldiers.
A possible thought of a Blademaster about Warriors
"They shout, they curse, stabbing wildly; more brawlers than warriors. They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part"
(300)
would be a good argument...
but warlocks aren't demonhunters despite a large number of them having metamorphosis.
Likewise, Teron Gorefiend IS a death knight... but not the type from WC3. also another thing to note is that Telaamon's abilities seem to be:
Righteous Blade
Melee Range
Instant
Strikes the enemy with a divine blade, inflicting Holy damage.
Light's Radiance
2 sec cast
Channels the power of the Light to bombard all nearby enemies with Holy energy, inflicting Holy damage every 1 sec.
Blazing Divide
50 yd range
Instant
Deals 22 Holy damage to all targets in front of the caster.
Arc Blade
8 yd range
Instant
3 sec cooldown
Flips behind the target and inflicts 1 Physical damage.
Arc Blade
100 yd range
Instant
Flips behind the target and inflicts 1 Physical damage.
Note that the blademaster as seen in HotS and WC3 had the abilities of Wind Walk (invisibility, +movement speed, bonus damage on first hit), critical strike (passive chance to deal bonus damage or eventually triggering bonus damage through repeat hits or on activation), Mirror Image and bladestorm.
I will note that while Telaamon does have mirror image units in the database it is not listed as one of his abilities. So he HAS a sword and is called blademaster... that's about where the similarities between him and Samuro style blademasters ends.
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overall. using class names and features as a measure for teh lore is a bad idea because the writers don't bother with it either. Character classes are whatever smattering of whatever that fits that creator's fancy. That's why Thrall was a shaman in plate with a hammer that at times was 2h and at times 1h or why Anduin is a priest in plate.... not a paladin, a priest. Some death knights are really warlocks and use 2h maces to beat everything to death and so on.
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I barely recognised the character, and now he's dead.
I feel so reluctant to get invested in new characters anymore.
#boycottchina
He should have died in the Dazar' Alor Raid
Such a waste of potential.
Zul'Jin died for our sins.
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