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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Surreality View Post
    Is "you" a bad word for you to use? It's only two more letters. It can't take that much longer to type them in. As for your question, I know those are derogatory words, but they're just words.

    Sticks and stones...
    It's only derogatory if you make it that. Fucking foreigners. Fucking tourists.

    I personally like Gaijin, and look forward to the day I get called one. It'd mean I'm in Japan.

    I wouldn't mind if they said it in a derogatory manner. It'd be another experience to laugh about both on the spot and afterwards.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Stelio Kontos View Post
    Except for one difference, though, giaour became derogatory during a period when Muslim Turks lorded over millions of Christians, enslaving and murdering them without consequence and ruling their countries.

    The experience of the Jews, especially in Europe, has been on the opposite end of that of the Ottoman Turks.

    Now that being said, I do accept that words can become derogatory over time, and context can change.

    But I've yet to see millions of whites suffering at the hands of Thais, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, or the like. Sure people can use the word "foreigner" in a derogatory sense, but any word can be used derogatorily when describing someone else.
    That is true. Although I have to say that in the Turkish language, giaour doesn't carry any connection to the Ottoman period. Anyone using that word wouldn't want to particularly invoke that part of history. It means non-Muslim without the historical connotation but of course it still is a pejorative term.

    Giaour and goy/im are similar in their daily use though as in they're both used to describe bad things or bad stuff "that foreigners do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drungan View Post
    just imagine a world where people was strong enough to just ignore if others did say something wrong or politely correct them ... and those corrected just, you know was open to have a talk about it.

    random encounter at the store :

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    Dude 1 : sorry ma'am can i get past you i need to get to the bacon section.

    other person ( dude 2): sure dude but do you mind not calling me Ma'am i am a dude afterall,

    Dude 1 : ops my bad, got a bit confused by the high heels and summer dress, interesting colours btw !

    Dude 2 : i know ! i am not really into this whole dress and heels thing but this just called for me

    Dude 1 : You do you dude, i am just gonna grab that bacon and go make lunch,

    Dude 2 : enjoy !

    Dude 1 : well thank you, have a nice day.

    Dude 2 : you too.

    **

    no protest signs, no angry Twitter posts, and no sections in the news about one of the 2 going on a murder spree ...... what a world

  4. #104
    I have no problem with people saying whatever word they want but they have to own the consequence

    Don't be crying to the cops if you're saying racist stuff and you get blasted on the face by a great right hook. It griefs the cop with ridiculous loads of wasteful paperwork and time.

    Let the cops focus on the real shit while you get beat up for being a dum-dum

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Weeps View Post
    I have no problem with people saying whatever word they want but they have to own the consequence

    Don't be crying to the cops if you're saying racist stuff and you get blasted on the face by a great right hook. It griefs the cop with ridiculous loads of wasteful paperwork and time.

    Let the cops focus on the real shit while you get beat up for being a dum-dum
    Why would the cops even get involved if you use farang? How is it even racist to use it?

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Why would you not do that? Why should I not call them what they are?
    I think the problem is by labeling people "foreigner" because of their skin color you end up insulting people who are native Koreans who don't look like you. You may not be intentionally trying to insult them but it ends up doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Because that's not the word for them.
    So the other black people doing it are doing it wrong?
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    They're bad because they're foreign and I don't know what they mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    do u think they are harmless words or u think they are bad words to use?
    Isn't these just words for foreigners/strangers?

    Better than, 'hey you', or 'that one over there', or 'them'.
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  10. #110
    How often is it even necessary to use those words? Context matters, and I would say if you go around calling people "foreigner" all the time, there is a negative connotation there.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    Why would the cops even get involved if you use farang? How is it even racist to use it?
    You’d be surprised at what people call cops for.

    America is soft AF

  12. #112
    I assume they mean “foreigner” in whatever language they come from. So, can’t say I really care so long as you don’t get upset at me commenting at how short you are.

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    How about you don't move to a country if you can't handle being a foreigner? Because that is what you are. Don't expect natives to accommodate you, you need to accommodate to them because YOU come to THEIR country.

    Additionally, if you don't move or live there, then why do you care to begin with? Lastly, if you visit as a tourist, would you cry about being called a tourist as well because it separates you from those who have citizenship? Jesus guys, this thread smells big time.

  14. #114
    They don't concern me , can't see me going to places where they are used in the forseeable future anyway , and I don't bother with stuff that doesn't directly impact me.

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    I don't have a single clue what any of them means, and I won't google it.

    So to me they're neutral.
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  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by The King in Yellow View Post
    Ah yes... because calling a foreigner a foreigner is on the same level as a word which is literally slur stemming more so from the French word "negre". It does have it's origin in latin, but not in the way it was used. But hey.. let's blow a completely normal word completely out of proportion and compare it to racial slurs, amirite?

    Enlighten me.. how should we call people from foreign lands then? Because god forbid calling people LITERALLY: "Person from another place" or "Person from outside"
    Don't look at me, I'm not the word cops. I'm just telling you the facts, which is that some words have connotations based on their history.

    "Nigger" is a corruption of "negro", which was not considered a slur at the time. "Negro" was still being used as a basic descriptor for black Americans (including as a self-descriptor) even in the civil rights era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    I don't have a single clue what any of them means, and I won't google it.

    So to me they're neutral.
    When I was growing up in the 80s in Australia, the average Australian was unfamiliar with the subtext of the word "nigger". We even had a famous stadium stand named after a footballer called "Nigger" Brown. He apparently got that nickname because he was an especially pale white guy.

    Still, if I'd gone to America at that time and started using that word, I would've found out pretty quick what it implied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    How often is it even necessary to use those words? Context matters, and I would say if you go around calling people "foreigner" all the time, there is a negative connotation there.
    i use farang often to refer to white people...

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    Oh man, the snowflake level of this post is quite chilly. Its not like Europe has gone onto every country on this planet and killed people so they can stake their claim. Now those same people call you a foreigner and your feelings are hurt... Like dude...
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    You misspelled laowai. LWIAY is the right way to spell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crillam View Post
    You misspelled laowai. LWIAY is the right way to spell it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laowai

    i didnt misspell..

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