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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by KronoFett View Post
    Every generation tries to make the next generations lives easier...

    Baby boomers are the first to not do that in history.
    Never has so much been owned, by so few, kept from so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    People are people. Blaming generations is pointless.
    These things have been said of boomers for many decades now because it's been so blatantly obvious how much they fucked things up and continue to do so.
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  2. #142
    Personally, I think it is impossible to pinpoint why.

    But many of you have hit on many of the contributing factors.


    I feel porn is a huge one. Masturbation too which turned from stigmatised behaviour to a happy expected norm during the baby boomer era.

    I also feel gender confusion and the diminishing of male identity because of unprecedented disconnect between fathers and sons... so most 80s/90s males have either poor role models or little understanding of what being a man actually is.

    Social media pressure and entertainment villanisation of men doesn't help. I am all for seeing female roles and heroes, but when this not only becomes the norm, but constantly is praised as the best thing to do, it sends a message that being male is crap or wrong - and the evidence of that insecurity is the volume of males who actually support this, totally confusing equality with sameness, and protecting womens rights with putting down men like a lot of the feminist man hating group love twisting that rhetoric..


    The percentage of the population that is older is rising because the younger generation isn't producing as many children, not only are they falsely indoctrinated to believe the world's problem is population (rather than character), they are also better at preventing concepton, aborting more babies than ever before, and the soaring cases of homosexuality which are from a combination of far more acceptance and guys just finding easier to fuck with other guys than play the ladies game - are all contributing factors.


    People who are unemployed have a harder time today than they did before, the social pressure to work is higher. If you're living with your parents, they as boomers are probably had on your back to get a job, get a job, get a job - rather than play around with sex.

    A lot of guys will retreat to other activities like video games, movies, Netflix, youtube, Instagram for their fixes

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon
    The percentage of the population that is older is rising because the younger generation isn't producing as many children, not only are they falsely indoctrinated to believe the world's problem is population (rather than character), they are also better at preventing concepton, aborting more babies than ever before, and the soaring cases of homosexuality which are from a combination of far more acceptance and guys just finding easier to fuck with other guys than play the ladies game - are all contributing factors.
    This isn't really accurate at all. As a rule, the wealthier and more educated a population gets the fewer children they have and increased standards of living favor longer lifespans; children are also less likely to die, which disincentives people from having an "abundance" of children. This is why many developing countries that once had a fertility rate of seven children per woman are now decreasing to just four and that number will continue to decline.

  4. #144
    I mean all you have to do is look at our current politicians and government to see that most Boomers are just out of touch and don't care about the next generation (or anybody but themselves for that matter).

    When you have old people bringing in snowballs trying to claim global warming is a hoax, asking the owner of Facebook (during a congressional hearing that should have had much prep time) how they generate revenue, and just outright disregard for the truth and the welfare of the general public, you have to ask wtf they are even doing there in power to begin with with such negligence and ignorance at display.

    These people care more about their personal stakes in the world than they do the millions of people they supposedly ''serve'', and you see that attitude shared across most people their age.
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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    As a boomer... there are a few things I have to say.

    Number 1: I am so so so so so so … so so so sorry

    My excuse is: I fought as hard as I could to make things better. I got crushed.

    First of all when Bush got elected, leading to the Middle East wars which drained trillions of dollars from our treasury as well as killing off thousands of troops - the dead troops were your generation. Then came the Mancession - basically high paying mostly white male jobs that just disappeared, never to return. This would not have happened if Gore were President those 8 years instead of Bush.

    Second of all when Obama got elected, and then did the BARE MINIMUM to help out your generation. Better than Bush by HUGE MILES, and he DID repair most (some?) of the damage that Bush did not only to millennials, but also to everyone else. But he really did do the BARE MINIMUM. It was not by accident that his term is when the big fracking recovery happened instead of the wind/solar power recovery.

    Finally, our generation is what is responsible for Trump being President. This needs no further discussion.

    There is a picture in the Brexit thread of a pro-Brexit demonstration. No one under 40, almost all males, not a non-white to be seen.

    I fought as hard as I could. Really I did. I apologize for losing More like getting creamed
    Don't believe everything you see. i'm not over 40, neither am I white, I am in favour of Brexit - that march you saw in that poster is not indicative of everyone who supports Brexit.. the racist party gathered some of their supporters, I would not be seen within a mile of that lot, even though we both at least agree on Brexit, our motives are entirely different.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by bungeebungee View Post
    @Queen of Hamsters I admit, I preferred the book, but I enjoyed the movie too.
    Wasn't the book a blatant advocate of fascism while the movie was a brilliant satire of fascism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne
    Wasn't the book a blatant advocate of fascism while the movie was a brilliant satire of fascism?
    That has been a dispute even among Heinlein fans for some quite some time, and I'm sure it reads even more as you suggest to a younger audience whose views of fascism are further away from the times when Heinlein wrote it.
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  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Boomers fucked up stuff before Bush. The destruction of unions, disappearance of the middle class, over cost of education, under funding of education, the housing market collapse (that the boomers are in the process of repeating) and lack of on the job training was dying out before Bush.

    Likewise Obama tried to do what the younger age group wanted: Act in a bipartisan fashion. The problem with that? The boomer generation, the boomer party (the GOP) took advantage of that and refused to even consider extending a bipartisan hand. So Obama did was he was elected to do, the problem was that the opposition party did nothing but act in bad faith.
    What a load of manure.

    #1 Unions. The decline of these with one major exception have ZERO to with any political party. Purely and simply the American consumer has refused to pay more for union produced goods. Further they have refused to pay more for certified made in America produced goods.

    That major exception is public sector unions which they are philosophically opposed to.

    #2 Disappearance of the middle class due to job loss. A large percentage of those jobs were lost to either globalism or automation. Neither of those causes is of partisan origin.

    #3 Over-cost of education. Huh ? and What ? This makes no sense. Please explain how boomers caused this and whether you are talking about K-12 or College.

    #4 Under funding of education. This is a problem in red states, blue states, purple states. As for the causes of the problem it first of all again it depends on whether you are talking about K-12 or College. The answer to the latter is simple. The growth in Medicaid spending has destroyed state funding for Higher Ed.
    1980 Medicaid budgets (adjusted for inflation) - $77.5 Billion
    2018 Medicaid budgets - $629.3 Billion
    Clear now ?

    K-12. There has been relatively little growth in the tax base which is almost always in the US, means property taxes. The only way to get more funding is to either raise taxes or reduce spending elsewhere which is damn near impossible. Remember states MUST balance their budgets.

    As to why the tax base hasn't grown, a lack of new construction possibly caused by too many kids living with their parents is one of the causes.

    #5 Obama and bipartisanship. When the cure is as bad as the disease cooperation isn't likely.

    The fact of the matter is this nation is relatively speaking, poorer than it was 50 years ago. The root causes are Globabism and to a lesser extent, over-population. Neither of those is an overtly partisan proposition. As always YMMV.

  9. #149
    I can see this. As I get older, I find it is incredibly hard to actually get four people to meet up in one place for a turnout, or just go out and drink.

    I once could host D&D or just general parties, but now nobody has a schedule that works. In the age of zero hour contracts, on-call service, and having to have an infinitely open schedule (Most of my friends work a variety of demanding jobs) that really we can only chat over the phone, or on skype.

    Now I have a kid, I really cannot do much besides mom duties which is only relieved by my mom or a babysitter or when my husband comes home and isn't absolutely dead exhausted.
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  10. #150
    The Baby Boomers fucked over future generations, and we will be paying for it our entire lives. They were selfish, and they mishandled resources. Chances are, the Millenials won't be able to fix it, so they will just screw over another generation.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The Baby Boomers fucked over future generations, and we will be paying for it our entire lives. They were selfish, and they mishandled resources. Chances are, the Millenials won't be able to fix it, so they will just screw over another generation.
    1) How did the boomers screw things up iyo ?
    2) When did boomers take over from the previous generation iyo ?

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    1) How did the boomers screw things up iyo ?
    2) When did boomers take over from the previous generation iyo ?
    The rampant spending and misuse of funds. The built up a massive debt, and the unfunded liabilities are going to drown future generations.

    The Boomers (ass well as the Greatest Generation), have been in power since before Reagan, with the Baby Boomers really taking over with Bill Clinton. The liabilities from Social Security alone are going to be damn hard to recover from. As it stands, the SS Trust Fund will be completely insolvent in 15 years, so all that money that has been spent by people still living... gone. As a single example, by 2034, I will have paid roughly $230-250k into SS. That's not including my employers that paid the same amount, or all the money I've paid for my employees when matching their payments. In 2034, there will be zero dollars to show for it all.

    Now, multiple me by tens of millions of people.

  13. #153
    29 people didnt have sex and everyone loses their god damn mind.
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    I agree that we did not start the fire. But we did not put it out either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    A. There aren't enough jobs, and the ones available are often enough woefully underpaid. That's how for example fully employed teachers end up driving Ubers.
    B. See A. It's hard to move out if you are underpaid, especially considering the state of the housing market.
    C. You are overworked and underpaid with little free time, less disposable income and even less energy to get out of the house. Going with the teacher example from above, bit hard to have a hobby after having 2 jobs and doing school prep.

    Pull your head out of your ass.
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  17. #157
    Holy shit, a whole lot of whining and blaming going on in this thread.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The rampant spending and misuse of funds. The built up a massive debt, and the unfunded liabilities are going to drown future generations.

    The Boomers (ass well as the Greatest Generation), have been in power since before Reagan, with the Baby Boomers really taking over with Bill Clinton. The liabilities from Social Security alone are going to be damn hard to recover from. As it stands, the SS Trust Fund will be completely insolvent in 15 years, so all that money that has been spent by people still living... gone. As a single example, by 2034, I will have paid roughly $230-250k into SS. That's not including my employers that paid the same amount, or all the money I've paid for my employees when matching their payments. In 2034, there will be zero dollars to show for it all.

    Now, multiple me by tens of millions of people.
    Fascinating. I'm going to shock the heck out of you. Your main point has validity. The debt will bite us in the ass sometime in the near future. However the boomers have not been in power nearly as long as you think. What that takes is 1) sheer numbers, 2) money, & 3) free time. In the case of the US that happened when the kids were all out of the house or at most you were on the last one in college, which was about 45ish for the boomers. As for the numbers I would say that you would have had enough by at least 1955. Add those two factors and you get the year 2000 for the change.

    Finally the SS Trust Fund. I am an accountant and frankly the SS Trust Fund is a joke. All that money has been spent and what we've got in exchange is IOU's . So if you think there is a big ol' pot of money in the trust fund......well then ooops, surprise !

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by JDL49 View Post
    Fascinating. I'm going to shock the heck out of you. Your main point has validity. The debt will bite us in the ass sometime in the near future. However the boomers have not been in power nearly as long as you think. What that takes is 1) sheer numbers, 2) money, & 3) free time. In the case of the US that happened when the kids were all out of the house or at most you were on the last one in college, which was about 45ish for the boomers. As for the numbers I would say that you would have had enough by at least 1955. Add those two factors and you get the year 2000 for the change.

    Finally the SS Trust Fund. I am an accountant and frankly the SS Trust Fund is a joke. All that money has been spent and what we've got in exchange is IOU's . So if you think there is a big ol' pot of money in the trust fund......well then ooops, surprise !
    What is the difference between a Ponzi scheme and Social Security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatrilian View Post
    What is the difference between a Ponzi scheme and Social Security?
    oh oh oh, I know this one... One has been painted to look like it isn't a scam

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