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  1. #121
    It's their parent's fault. In general they've more or less had stuff handed to them while growing up, no wonder they think that's how it's supposed to be. (Yeah, I know there are exceptions).

    It's a prince/princess generation which is clearly evident on discussion boards like this one, where they expect to have their games customized to their pleasure and are unable to to see that people enjoy different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waynhim View Post
    It's their parent's fault. In general they've more or less had stuff handed to them while growing up, no wonder they think that's how it's supposed to be. (Yeah, I know there are exceptions).

    It's a prince/princess generation which is clearly evident on discussion boards like this one, where they expect to have their games customized to their pleasure and are unable to to see that people enjoy different things.
    Yes, thank you for the accurate outline of the boomer generation.

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  3. #123
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    Am I the only one confused by where the thread title came from ?

    All I can see is a study that doesn't seem to investigate or assign responsibility to any particular causes, and just provides demographics and data.
    Title of the thread is misleading, as there's no substantive correlation between what the OP wants to be true and the actual data. If the OP's premise was true, sex would've been declining for a very long time, but as I mentioned in a previous post, sex was increasing across all demographics until 2007. After 2007, sex declined among all demographics until 2016, where everyone except the 18-29 returned to pre-2007 levels today (50-59 didn't return to said levels, but they're decently close and sex in this demographic is on the rise). The 18-29 demographic is still having a constant decrease in sex since 2007, which is abnormal for any range of dates and all demographics.

    What's quite interesting is that after 10 years of the constant decreasing trend of sex in the 18-29 bracket, you'd expect a decrease in sex to leak over into the 30-39 bracket... but it doesn't. Sex actually sharply increases in the 30-39 bracket despite the decrease in sex in the previous bracket, which indicates something changes when a person shifts brackets. As quite a few people have pointed out, this issue is likely a social issue with the 18-29 bracket. When you correlate what the article indicates as metrics that indicate an increase in sex, it implies that the 18-29 bracket has become much less mature and less attractive for sexual activity over the past decade compared to previous generations, not some cascading effect from half a century ago that isn't reflected in any of the data nor trends.
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  4. #124
    Women have seen an even steeper decline in labor participation rate. So its not women outearning men, men are just pathetic.

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    I don't know if it's okay to put blanket blame on baby boomers/generational cohorts. It seems wrong to blame any group of people who don't share the same ideology. Would rather stick to individualism when it comes to groupings that people don't actively choose for themselves.
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  6. #126
    Americans in their 30s, 40s and beyond, meanwhile, are much more likely to be married than those in their 20s. These age groups are now more likely to have sex in a given year than their younger peers.
    Millenials are 20 to 40 now. Stop thinking millenials are kids who can’t improve their lives. They are adults and should stop blaming everything on their parents and do something about things. The people hiring you are millenials too!

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by exochaft View Post
    Title of the thread is misleading, as there's no substantive correlation between what the OP wants to be true and the actual data. If the OP's premise was true, sex would've been declining for a very long time, but as I mentioned in a previous post, sex was increasing across all demographics until 2007. After 2007, sex declined among all demographics until 2016, where everyone except the 18-29 returned to pre-2007 levels today (50-59 didn't return to said levels, but they're decently close and sex in this demographic is on the rise). The 18-29 demographic is still having a constant decrease in sex since 2007, which is abnormal for any range of dates and all demographics.

    What's quite interesting is that after 10 years of the constant decreasing trend of sex in the 18-29 bracket, you'd expect a decrease in sex to leak over into the 30-39 bracket... but it doesn't. Sex actually sharply increases in the 30-39 bracket despite the decrease in sex in the previous bracket, which indicates something changes when a person shifts brackets. As quite a few people have pointed out, this issue is likely a social issue with the 18-29 bracket. When you correlate what the article indicates as metrics that indicate an increase in sex, it implies that the 18-29 bracket has become much less mature and less attractive for sexual activity over the past decade compared to previous generations, not some cascading effect from half a century ago that isn't reflected in any of the data nor trends.
    maybe is because 18-29 have much more opportunity to have different recreational activities than just going out to their gf/bf and having the old "classic fun"?

    I don't know back when i was in that range of age, in the late 80's and 90's, the daily routine was to go out together and then finding a place to have a private interaction, a park, the beach, the house of some friend and then the car etc. Nowadays i find my acquaintances in that range (both male and female) to be almost bothered to go out they are all day sending each other messages with whatsapp but fucking see each other just some saturday night (and that night they get smashed with alcohol that doing anything is almost impossible).

    They almost sound like having a BF/GF is needed just for those occasion like going somewhere in that rare weekend they take a fly and go visit a different city, summer vacation or for those annual occasion like new year eve, st valentine etc. They seem to not want to live a daily couple life like we had back then, i'm not surprised at all that the chances of having sex are reduced.

    While we in 30-39 still retain different urges and especially women start to feel pressure from their bio clock.
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  8. #128
    I like how you can clearly tell who in this thread actually understand how statistics and generational standards work, and who are just going by what their gut tells them and/or have a need to feel superior on a internet forum.
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  9. #129
    Every generation tries to make the next generations lives easier...

    Baby boomers are the first to not do that in history.

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    fucking vampires
    A very risky endeavour, I would advise against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoFett View Post
    Every generation tries to make the next generations lives easier...

    Baby boomers are the first to not do that in history.
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    People are people. Blaming generations is pointless.
    These things have been said of boomers for many decades now because it's been so blatantly obvious how much they fucked things up and continue to do so.
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  12. #132
    Personally, I think it is impossible to pinpoint why.

    But many of you have hit on many of the contributing factors.


    I feel porn is a huge one. Masturbation too which turned from stigmatised behaviour to a happy expected norm during the baby boomer era.

    I also feel gender confusion and the diminishing of male identity because of unprecedented disconnect between fathers and sons... so most 80s/90s males have either poor role models or little understanding of what being a man actually is.

    Social media pressure and entertainment villanisation of men doesn't help. I am all for seeing female roles and heroes, but when this not only becomes the norm, but constantly is praised as the best thing to do, it sends a message that being male is crap or wrong - and the evidence of that insecurity is the volume of males who actually support this, totally confusing equality with sameness, and protecting womens rights with putting down men like a lot of the feminist man hating group love twisting that rhetoric..


    The percentage of the population that is older is rising because the younger generation isn't producing as many children, not only are they falsely indoctrinated to believe the world's problem is population (rather than character), they are also better at preventing concepton, aborting more babies than ever before, and the soaring cases of homosexuality which are from a combination of far more acceptance and guys just finding easier to fuck with other guys than play the ladies game - are all contributing factors.


    People who are unemployed have a harder time today than they did before, the social pressure to work is higher. If you're living with your parents, they as boomers are probably had on your back to get a job, get a job, get a job - rather than play around with sex.

    A lot of guys will retreat to other activities like video games, movies, Netflix, youtube, Instagram for their fixes

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon
    The percentage of the population that is older is rising because the younger generation isn't producing as many children, not only are they falsely indoctrinated to believe the world's problem is population (rather than character), they are also better at preventing concepton, aborting more babies than ever before, and the soaring cases of homosexuality which are from a combination of far more acceptance and guys just finding easier to fuck with other guys than play the ladies game - are all contributing factors.
    This isn't really accurate at all. As a rule, the wealthier and more educated a population gets the fewer children they have and increased standards of living favor longer lifespans; children are also less likely to die, which disincentives people from having an "abundance" of children. This is why many developing countries that once had a fertility rate of seven children per woman are now decreasing to just four and that number will continue to decline.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    As a boomer... there are a few things I have to say.

    Number 1: I am so so so so so so … so so so sorry

    My excuse is: I fought as hard as I could to make things better. I got crushed.

    First of all when Bush got elected, leading to the Middle East wars which drained trillions of dollars from our treasury as well as killing off thousands of troops - the dead troops were your generation. Then came the Mancession - basically high paying mostly white male jobs that just disappeared, never to return. This would not have happened if Gore were President those 8 years instead of Bush.

    Second of all when Obama got elected, and then did the BARE MINIMUM to help out your generation. Better than Bush by HUGE MILES, and he DID repair most (some?) of the damage that Bush did not only to millennials, but also to everyone else. But he really did do the BARE MINIMUM. It was not by accident that his term is when the big fracking recovery happened instead of the wind/solar power recovery.

    Finally, our generation is what is responsible for Trump being President. This needs no further discussion.

    There is a picture in the Brexit thread of a pro-Brexit demonstration. No one under 40, almost all males, not a non-white to be seen.

    I fought as hard as I could. Really I did. I apologize for losing More like getting creamed
    Don't believe everything you see. i'm not over 40, neither am I white, I am in favour of Brexit - that march you saw in that poster is not indicative of everyone who supports Brexit.. the racist party gathered some of their supporters, I would not be seen within a mile of that lot, even though we both at least agree on Brexit, our motives are entirely different.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by bungeebungee View Post
    @Queen of Hamsters I admit, I preferred the book, but I enjoyed the movie too.
    Wasn't the book a blatant advocate of fascism while the movie was a brilliant satire of fascism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne
    Wasn't the book a blatant advocate of fascism while the movie was a brilliant satire of fascism?
    That has been a dispute even among Heinlein fans for some quite some time, and I'm sure it reads even more as you suggest to a younger audience whose views of fascism are further away from the times when Heinlein wrote it.
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  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Boomers fucked up stuff before Bush. The destruction of unions, disappearance of the middle class, over cost of education, under funding of education, the housing market collapse (that the boomers are in the process of repeating) and lack of on the job training was dying out before Bush.

    Likewise Obama tried to do what the younger age group wanted: Act in a bipartisan fashion. The problem with that? The boomer generation, the boomer party (the GOP) took advantage of that and refused to even consider extending a bipartisan hand. So Obama did was he was elected to do, the problem was that the opposition party did nothing but act in bad faith.
    What a load of manure.

    #1 Unions. The decline of these with one major exception have ZERO to with any political party. Purely and simply the American consumer has refused to pay more for union produced goods. Further they have refused to pay more for certified made in America produced goods.

    That major exception is public sector unions which they are philosophically opposed to.

    #2 Disappearance of the middle class due to job loss. A large percentage of those jobs were lost to either globalism or automation. Neither of those causes is of partisan origin.

    #3 Over-cost of education. Huh ? and What ? This makes no sense. Please explain how boomers caused this and whether you are talking about K-12 or College.

    #4 Under funding of education. This is a problem in red states, blue states, purple states. As for the causes of the problem it first of all again it depends on whether you are talking about K-12 or College. The answer to the latter is simple. The growth in Medicaid spending has destroyed state funding for Higher Ed.
    1980 Medicaid budgets (adjusted for inflation) - $77.5 Billion
    2018 Medicaid budgets - $629.3 Billion
    Clear now ?

    K-12. There has been relatively little growth in the tax base which is almost always in the US, means property taxes. The only way to get more funding is to either raise taxes or reduce spending elsewhere which is damn near impossible. Remember states MUST balance their budgets.

    As to why the tax base hasn't grown, a lack of new construction possibly caused by too many kids living with their parents is one of the causes.

    #5 Obama and bipartisanship. When the cure is as bad as the disease cooperation isn't likely.

    The fact of the matter is this nation is relatively speaking, poorer than it was 50 years ago. The root causes are Globabism and to a lesser extent, over-population. Neither of those is an overtly partisan proposition. As always YMMV.

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    I can see this. As I get older, I find it is incredibly hard to actually get four people to meet up in one place for a turnout, or just go out and drink.

    I once could host D&D or just general parties, but now nobody has a schedule that works. In the age of zero hour contracts, on-call service, and having to have an infinitely open schedule (Most of my friends work a variety of demanding jobs) that really we can only chat over the phone, or on skype.

    Now I have a kid, I really cannot do much besides mom duties which is only relieved by my mom or a babysitter or when my husband comes home and isn't absolutely dead exhausted.
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  19. #139
    The Baby Boomers fucked over future generations, and we will be paying for it our entire lives. They were selfish, and they mishandled resources. Chances are, the Millenials won't be able to fix it, so they will just screw over another generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The Baby Boomers fucked over future generations, and we will be paying for it our entire lives. They were selfish, and they mishandled resources. Chances are, the Millenials won't be able to fix it, so they will just screw over another generation.
    1) How did the boomers screw things up iyo ?
    2) When did boomers take over from the previous generation iyo ?

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