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  1. #21
    Considering we now have 3 plate classes, 4 leather classes, and they've never added a new cloth or mail class at all, I doubt Blizzard would prioritize trying to even out the number of classes and armor types. They've had the opportunity to add in different classes, or adjust the way armor types work entirely, and they haven't so far.

    Maybe if they decide to add in class sets again, they'll think about trying to make the numbers more even, or give players more choices of gear looks/stats in each armor type. As it is now, it doesn't really matter.

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    There won't be any more new classes.
    To be fair, people said that after DKs (since they were hard to balance in WotLK), and Monks in MoP. People also said the same about races after Pandaria, and now we have an explosion of Allied Races.
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  2. #22
    smells like a thinly veiled Dark Ranger class thread , lol
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  3. #23
    Yes bring back ranged survival hunter.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderleg View Post
    No need for another mail class.

    1. Shaman 'Earth Warden' Tank
    2. Hunter 'survival' healer

    3. (leather, I know) ranged 'something something' monk dps would be great)
    Going to a two talent row tree with tank-melee choices in one and healer-ranged in the other. Similar to when BearCat druid was as thing.
    Erm...what?

    There absolutely *is* a need for it.

    Whilst Mail users at this end can do a lot, they are also the one class that shares the last amount of gear between others. Every other gear type has 3 other classes to share with, Mail has only 1 other.

    For that reason alone, the next class should be a Mail wearer, to even the distribution of loot. The actual flavour of the spec is irrelevant, practically every loot type can do everything anyways.

    If anything, removing Mail would be more sensible, or make the next class one, but to ignore it? That is just silly with all honesty.

  5. #25
    Personal loot gave blizzard the opportunity to ignore armortypes and weapons for new classes. It doesn't seem like perso loot is going away anytime soon, so we can't say for certain a new class will use bows/mail because they are the least used.
    Also adding meeles and tanks doesn't seem a problem for blizzard either. It was time for a range class ages ago, but who knows if we will ever see another one.

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    Tinker would be the best option for the next class.

    Given that Blizzard is highlighting the Goblin and Gnome rivalry in 8.1 and 8.2, the possibility of an underground expansion in 9.0 that could introduce Undermine, and given Mekkatorque and the eventual connection to Mechagon, the next expansion would be the best time to release a Tinker class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Tinker would be the best option for the next class.

    Given that Blizzard is highlighting the Goblin and Gnome rivalry in 8.1 and 8.2, the possibility of an underground expansion in 9.0 that could introduce Undermine, and given Mekkatorque and the eventual connection to Mechagon, the next expansion would be the best time to release a Tinker class.

    We'll see one way or another.
    i would like to point out that mekkatorque is 100% being set up to bring in mecha-gnomes into the Alliance , how convenient that he has injuries sustained from BoD that Jaina nor priests of Stormwind know how to fix ... AND we 'll be going to Mechagon to see wtf is up with these mecha-gnomes

    Mekkatorque is 100% going to become a mecha-gnome in order to save his life and then bring Mecha-gnomes into the ALliance as an allied race
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  8. #28
    I want a necromancer class in the next expac.

  9. #29
    would most likely be a tinker.

    Even though plate makes more sense.

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    If this was a race for president, Tinker would be polling at like 98%.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    Personal loot gave blizzard the opportunity to ignore armortypes and weapons for new classes. It doesn't seem like perso loot is going away anytime soon
    Even with personal loot, having a decent balance between armor types is somewhat important - at least to the players.

    One key concept of perso loot is to still have the ability to trade gear if its of no use to you. But if you have an entirely unbalanced distribution of armor types, this becomes impractical for those players that play mail, and as such they are at a disadvantage.

  13. #33
    See, once upon a time I thought the next class would be mail to balance out the armor types.

    Then we got demon hunter, another mobile melee agility leather class, to make it 3/4/2/3.

    Blizz doesn't seem super concerned with balancing the armor types.

    ESPECIALLY with personal loot.

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    People are saying tinker because of Mechagon shit and the book that you could find about tinkering. But they've already made it specifically clear that Tinker is not going to happen.

    My money is on Necromancer, which to me, makes FAR MORE sense than anything else judging from the insane death theme we've worked through in Drustvar, Nazmir, with Bwonsamdi, Sylvanas and so on. The spell effects of Death have also been given the same color as the Diablo 3 necromancer, which is more of a green-ish light blue.

    The closest we've been to Tinker has been the one gnome from the Island expedition that you play against as a Horde, the one that has tiny bots running around healing and damaging people, but I don't see that happening as a class unless they were to give it to the Draenei and Orcs as well. They wouldn't give a class to the two least played races of all time. There's just a specific group of people that like playing tiny races like that.

    Also, I'm pretty sure they made it clear that armor type doesn't matter anymore, so it's probably going to be cloth, unless they go for Diablo 3-style Necromancers and give them mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    Even with personal loot, having a decent balance between armor types is somewhat important - at least to the players.

    One key concept of perso loot is to still have the ability to trade gear if its of no use to you. But if you have an entirely unbalanced distribution of armor types, this becomes impractical for those players that play mail, and as such they are at a disadvantage.
    No, you don't speak for the players, it's not important to most players as long as the class is cool. What matters is if they are ranged or melee, and at this point, I'm pretty sure ranged is next, Necromancer is the only one that truly make sense, unless they make a void-specific class we've never heard about before

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Druitz View Post
    We have forced personal loot now so armor type is not that important.
    Yeah basically it takes 3 times as fast to gear a leather char than a mail, because it's so easy to make a leather stack group for m+ farm, and mail is super unpopular, nobody will trade you loot because next to no one plays mail classes.

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    Really need more ranged specs in the game,
    We do, but bet they'll just keep adding more melee specs to keep that space even more crowded. Like "warden" class, since now it makes sense to add it to both factions when Sira joined the Forsaken.

    We already have a supply of melee dps vastly outnumbering demand in most content. I would also hope they stop adding tanks to the game because they clearly can't balance them and ran out of ideas.

  16. #36
    With Darkshore Warfront, I would imagine Warden might become a hero class. Especially with how you have a Warden on alliance and a Dark Warden on horde.
    Dark Ranger would also be great, or Spellbreaker (non-hero class), or Tinker.

    Another option is adding specs and trying to work in additional classes as specs instead, to easier put in classes, just like Allied Races made it easy to put in races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmist View Post
    In all the expansions to date Blizzard have added no new ranged specs and removed one.

    If anything I can see them rolling shaman and hunter into the leather category, and making all mail items leather.
    That's a terrible idea.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Daish View Post
    just remove mail and make it leather then add a plate class
    Removing options not a good thing. There will be too big of a gap between leather and plate then.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by shise View Post
    From all the ideas, wishes and speculations, we can dig something for sure, we still only have 2 mail wearing classes in the game, where plate, leather and cloth are highly represented.

    It is a rather obvious thing that mail will either disappear or move on, it is a rare armor at this point as either leather or plate seem to make more sense.
    TBH, I think 'mail armor' is a mistake. The concept of a shaman wearing mail armor always felt wrong, to me, especially when you consider the class' origins way back in WC3 and Vanilla. The orcs never wore mail. It was either straight plate or leather.

    In my opinion, shamans should wear leather, but I guess Blizzard didn't want hunters being the only ones to wear mail...

    So my bet is that it will be a mail wearing class. Also, DK = melee, Monk = melee and healer, DH = melee, chances are that Blizzard will compliment the game on that area and give us a ranger/caster who uses mail.

    What are your thoughts?
    Armor type is almost irrelevant, nowadays, with Personal Loot. Blizzard added, back-to-back, two leather-wearing classes, so I don't think 'armor type' is a big concern for the developers.

    As for 'ranged/caster', yes, the game could use one more class of that type, but, again, people has been saying we needed a new ranged class since Wrath. But then we got another melee class. And then another. So, again, I'm not sure keeping a 'ranged/melee' balance is high up in Blizzard's priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoaThaFett View Post
    i would like to point out that mekkatorque is 100% being set up to bring in mecha-gnomes into the Alliance , how convenient that he has injuries sustained from BoD that Jaina nor priests of Stormwind know how to fix ... AND we 'll be going to Mechagon to see wtf is up with these mecha-gnomes

    Mekkatorque is 100% going to become a mecha-gnome in order to save his life and then bring Mecha-gnomes into the ALliance as an allied race
    Yep, and adding Mecha/Junker Gnomes alongside whatever race they'll bring in as the Goblin equivalent would also make a Tinker inclusion more feasible, because then there would be more than two default Tinker races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriHard View Post
    People are saying tinker because of Mechagon shit and the book that you could find about tinkering.
    What book are you talking about?

    But they've already made it specifically clear that Tinker is not going to happen.
    When did they do that?
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