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  1. #101
    There's a lot to be dissatisfied with.

    They've failed on nearly every front they could have. I'm not sure what aspect of the playerbase they were aiming at when they thought up this terrible expansion, but it seems to have missed everyone.

  2. #102
    If ActiBlizz actually tried making a game for the players and not for Bobby Kotick and his band of shareholders then people wouldn't be annoyed at the state of the game.

    Simple as that really.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by duselsteiner View Post
    What i really wonder is why people do not leave if they are dissatisfied with the game.

    There are a ton of other games around.
    It was my biggest and favorite hobby. It was a great way to spend time with people online. You know, before everyone quit because of the litany of reasons people hate this expansion.

    Instead of just ditching the game like any other fast food title, I'd rather see it fixed.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by duselsteiner View Post
    What i really wonder is why people do not leave if they are dissatisfied with the game.

    There are a ton of other games around.
    Ex-bf/gf syndrome. They cant help it.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by stross01 View Post
    Instead of just ditching the game like any other fast food title, I'd rather see it fixed.
    But you have no influence on if it "gets fixed" (ie, changed the way you like it). It is a game made for millions of different players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monolithi View Post
    Ex-bf/gf syndrome. They cant help it.
    This gf/bf will not return, no matter how much you cry. I think people want their first love back, while they forget they already loved a lot, and their experience from the first time will never return. No matter how much that gf/bf changes.

    Listening to the criers and haters is like putting water into a bottomless well. It will never fill.

  6. #106
    WoW hasnt went f2p yet so it cant be doing too bad xD

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrinx View Post
    People can both love the game and be varying levels of dissatisfied with its current state.

    The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
    I 100% agree with this!

    I will always love WoW, even if I'm not enjoying it at the moment.
    FORTNITE
    Fite me! ^..^

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Daikoku View Post
    Not really true considering that a lot of people dislikes BFA but LOVED Legion, so it isn't a nostalgic feeling for everybody.
    isn't the reason people dislike BFA is because it's legion 2.0 with nothing new?

  9. #109
    because the game developed into a useless feature, wait for classic and get the fuck out of this world of whatever retail

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    WoW hasnt went f2p yet so it cant be doing too bad xD
    One thing i can say is, that WoW will never go f2p.
    fucking never. not when there are so many morons that pay the fee no matter the gameplay quality.
    WoW is like a parasyt. It will never ever kill its host.

  10. #110
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    The same philosophies that made WoD bad were present in Legion, and BfA.
    Hated WoD. Didn't care for Legion. Can't stand BfA.

    Why should I be satisfied with WoW when it's clear they're doubling down on failure?

    inb4 "Just quit then!!"
    I pretty much have at this point, I check in every now and then for news, but that's largely it at this point. For what it's worth, that's probably not the smartest thing to say these days, considering those smart, in-touch devs managed to lose over half of their subscribers in under a year during WoD.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadsop View Post
    It's like the people who dislike McDonald's.

    Do you just - not go back to McDonald's?

    Or do you drive to McDonald's, sit outside the restaurant with a megaphone, and yell and scream about how you don't like it and why other people are dipshits for going there?

    If you do the second one, you're a complete fucking moron, yet that's what people think MMO-Champ is for.
    That made zero sense. It's a forum full of carebears like you, who think other people have no right to complain. We have come full circle, complaining about people complaining about an old video game. To some of these people, WoW IS their life. SAD BUT TRUE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildberry View Post
    The same philosophies that made WoD bad were present in Legion, and BfA.
    Hated WoD. Didn't care for Legion. Can't stand BfA.

    Why should I be satisfied with WoW when it's clear they're doubling down on failure?

    inb4 "Just quit then!!"
    I pretty much have at this point, I check in every now and then for news, but that's largely it at this point. For what it's worth, that's probably not the smartest thing to say these days, considering those smart, in-touch devs managed to lose over half of their subscribers in under a year during WoD.
    Blizzard does not care anymore. How do you get nerds to realize that? They won't go down without a fight before admitting the situation.

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazan Julio View Post
    Blizzard does not care anymore. How do you get nerds to realize that? They won't go down without a fight before admitting the situation.
    Honestly, it should be blatantly obvious by now. I'm really not sure there's much that can be said to show people that they don't care.

  13. #113
    There are two camps. Some people legitimately enjoy the game, engage with endgame content but have a realistic and considered view on the issues that could be addressed. That's constructive, and what a community who care about the direction of the game should really be doing.

    Some people, not so much. There are people who practically do nothing but heroics and world quests yet complain about the lack of content, as well as people who claim to play the game yet seem to hate absolutely everything. Even though I disagree completely, I can kind of understand the former given that it's clearly possible to just suck at the game and feel left out, but I can't even begin to get my head around why a person would split all of their free time evenly between doing a thing they hate, and complaining about how much they hate it (shit jobs excluded).

    I think a lot of posters on MMOC have a bit of a penchant for the melodramatic, but there are definitely reasonable ways of having the conversation. I enjoy mythic raiding, and the encounters have been pretty good this expansion - this tier especially. Yes, there are problems outside of that, and some of them even impact on it, but ultimately I still enjoy the game a lot; if that stopped being the case, I would stop. For the life of me I can't understand how anyone manages to make things any more complicated than that for themselves.

  14. #114
    You don't need to scare quote dissatisfied. I'm quite unhappy with WoW. So much so I walked away. I keep hoping to drop by MMO-C and see some news that things are changing direction towards something that I'd once again enjoy. So far it's a nope though.

    I'm glad you're enjoying it. Don't let anyone take that from you. But to me it's become a steaming plate of hot garbage. I'm generally forgiving of a lot of flaws in the game and willing to make my own fun with it, but if it's not fun to play I'm not going to put on a smile and pretend I'm having a good time.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Alvito View Post
    How does a thread complaining about complaing help?
    How does complaining on a thread complaining about complaining help? xD

    But On topic, I agree, it's not always a very friendly atmosphere, but I guess people are very passionate about the game and in their passion, they express themselves a bit too much.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    How does complaining on a thread complaining about complaining help? xD

    But On topic, I agree, it's not always a very friendly atmosphere, but I guess people are very passionate about the game and in their passion, they express themselves a bit too much.
    Complaining is a form of debate. Most people on this forum are not mature enough to debate without getting their feelings hurt so...........oh look another "Infartshun".

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Arainie View Post
    Isn't this the core problem?
    When I joined MMOC most people came here to discuss their classes (actual reason I started coming here was the decline/death of EJ) or to discuss various aspects of in-game content. Nowdays people just read discord guides or icy-veins instead, and the ones who come here do so to talk politics, troll or complain. It's a pretty skewed population and imo a very sad development.
    I see your point of view and yep when EJ died a lot of class discussion fired up and moved on to MMO champion, prior to Legion and the surge in popularity of Discord channels this was probably the place to be to discuss such stuff. But that aspect of MMO champion is also almost dead now, most discussion here is regarding peoples frustration with the game or how they feel the game should change in the future, discord channels cater to a lot more current neutral gameplay based discussion and most people who are enjoying the game have less reason to discuss and more reason to just play it.

    I'm not really in any boat, I'm not playing WoW at all and am completely OK with that, I'm not in a rush for WoW to suddenly cater to my needs/desires. I maintain an interest in the game only at a distance because I can afford to wait a year or 2 before I play again.
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  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrinx View Post
    People can both love the game and be varying levels of dissatisfied with its current state.

    The two are NOT mutually exclusive.
    This. if anything complaining about a game will help.... if it's constructive.

  19. #119
    The funny thing is when people post threads about "WoW sucks now" the Blizzard white knights march in and do that exact same thing you're complaining about in this thread. The issue isn't mutually exclusive to one side.

    My personal opinion though, WoW is in a bad state. The story is beyond garbage and the gameplay is a snore fest at the moment. Only department kicking goals is the art team.
    That one misunderstands much... and underestimates more - Broxigar the Red Axe

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Strippling View Post
    The funny thing is when people post threads about "WoW sucks now" the Blizzard white knights march in and do that exact same thing you're complaining about in this thread. The issue isn't mutually exclusive to one side.

    My personal opinion though, WoW is in a bad state. The story is beyond garbage and the gameplay is a snore fest at the moment. Only department kicking goals is the art team.
    Amen. Good place to stop.

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