What if there was a delay on titanforging and warforging

[Tyrilion]

Im on the fence with Tf and Wf i understand why its loved and hated.

What if the procs were delayed ?

For example;

Current gear from Mythic Raiding is 415 and it will stay as such with no procs

All dungeons could olny proc to nomal raiding level so max Tf is 385

normal raiding could only proc to base heroic level

Heroic raiding could only proc to 410.

Until the next tier unlocks then it can proc higher but not as high as the next tier ? Would that help quell those who hate casuals getting mythic level gear from nothing and keeping people involved in all content to help progress ?

[Socialhealer]

so mythic raiders can't get TF/WF but casuals/normal/heroic raiders can?

yeah sounds like mythic raiders would love that...../derp

[Jibbler]

so mythic raiders can't get TF/WF but casuals/normal/heroic raiders can?

yeah sounds like mythic raiders would love that...../derp

They likely would, it would guarantee getting the best gear from the hardest content.

[Irian]

If a reward system requires this much design to not completely fuck up the progression flow of a game, it's a shit system.

[Socialhealer]

They likely would, it would guarantee getting the best gear from the hardest content.

but bonuses for everyone else but not for the hardest content? that's just bullshit.

WF/TF for all, or no-one.

[Dracullus]

Well, last boss in next mini-raid will work almost like that - mythic loot is 425 and titanforge cap remains at 425 until Azshara's season. I don't see appreciation for this anywhere, so message to Blizz is clear - people don't care about it.

[Eucep]

I think would of course go hand in hand with lower tier stuff being unable to titanforge to the highest tier ilvl.

[Flurryfang]

I am all in for delaying WF/TF. I think it is pretty much the solution to make peoples problem with the system.

Just have it be delayed to 5 item lvl below the next difficulty in raiding and people will always find rewards when going up in diffculity.

So normal raiding can TF up to 395 and heroic can TF up to 410. That way, you will never get that horrible experience of killing a new boss in a new difficulty and finding you have already outgeared it.

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but bonuses for everyone else but not for the hardest content? that's just bullshit.

WF/TF for all, or no-one.

TF is pretty much a bonus for repeating content. If you beat the most optimal content, i don't think people will complain that they can't get WF/TF versions of that gear, especially when it is already the best gear in the game.

[kamuimac]

Im on the fence with Tf and Wf i understand why its loved and hated.

What if the procs were delayed ?

For example;

Current gear from Mythic Raiding is 415 and it will stay as such with no procs

All dungeons could olny proc to nomal raiding level so max Tf is 385

normal raiding could only proc to base heroic level

Heroic raiding could only proc to 410.

Until the next tier unlocks then it can proc higher but not as high as the next tier ? Would that help quell those who hate casuals getting mythic level gear from nothing and keeping people involved in all content to help progress ?

every whining thread about loot made by mythic crybaby raider is sooo yummy ^^

you must be so jealous that normal gamers can get nice shinies too

blizard made perfect move with tf tears of entitles mythic raiders are just a nice bonus cherry on top

you guys are clearly not getting the message that this is the direction game is going tf was beggining , personal loot is new norm and future will bring only more loot to casual people .

[Flurryfang]

Well, last boss in next mini-raid will work almost like that - mythic loot is 425 and titanforge cap remains at 425 until Azshara's season. I don't see appreciation for this anywhere, so message to Blizz is clear - people don't care about it.

I think the reason why people don't appreciate it, is because it is coming a bit too late. People are already exhausted by the TF discussion so seeing a half measured attempt at improving the system, does not really hit home.

[Dracullus]

I think the reason why people don't appreciate it, is because it is coming a bit too late. People are already exhausted by the TF discussion so seeing a half measured attempt at improving the system, does not really hit home.

I think it's lazy excuse. You can say that about every change in WoW. For example people are rather excited that 8.2 neck revamp even when it arrive halfway into expansion. What the hell "too late" even means in WoW that has soft reset every season?

Also I haven't seen any praise that azerite armor has no titanforging either. Even better, I've seen many whines from people that got chest/shoulder/helm in dungeon.

People like to say that they hate titanforging/warforging, but don't act like this. Same as with grind - everyone "hates" it, but later expacs like MoP (member dailies?), Legion (member spaming Maw of Soul for legos?) are rated better than WoD that had 0 grind.

[kamuimac]

I think the reason why people don't appreciate it, is because it is coming a bit too late. People are already exhausted by the TF discussion so seeing a half measured attempt at improving the system, does not really hit home.

but that has nothing to do with tf.

it an attempt to not force people into farming this mini raid after opening of azhara raid.

i personaly cannot wait for forum outrage once azhara zone opens and world content will offer 400 itlv gear to everybody just like incursiosn did with 370 one ^^

[Ealyssa]

Keep WF
Drop TF outside MM+ weekly chest.

Boom, problem solved. It really isnt rocket science.

[FuxieDK]

Just remove the entire WF/TF system and 99% of the player base will be happy..

We used to have BiS lists for each slot/spec, now we have nothing and needs to do math each time an item drops.

[froschhure]

Yeah sure fix that trash system with your trash idea.

Let’s time gate time gated shit.

Ggwp blizzard indoctrinated

[Big Thanks]

Guys plz

Titanforging is only "bad" for people with OCD or some kind of disease.
You guys are making this problem on your heads.
Forget it exists. If you forget it exists and dont do content for the sake of getting a titanforge and getting a titanforge only...you will be a happy person.

Why do people make this problem on their heads? I really dont understand

[vsb]

Well, last boss in next mini-raid will work almost like that - mythic loot is 425 and titanforge cap remains at 425 until Azshara's season. I don't see appreciation for this anywhere, so message to Blizz is clear - people don't care about it.

Yeah, casuals will have 425 reforges from LFR and mythic raiders will have... 425 anyway! Very nice.

[Tyrilion]

but bonuses for everyone else but not for the hardest content? that's just bullshit.

WF/TF for all, or no-one.

Well could always put a + on mythic for tf but i thoughr ir would help avoid people overgearing content that hasn't been released yet... i mean alot o the myth9c raiders are doing it f9r fun no ? Likelyhood is they already have all BiS ?

[Dracullus]

Yeah, casuals will have 425 reforges from LFR and mythic raiders will have... 425 anyway! Very nice.

Ahh, these mythical LFRs running in full mythic set... ;D

Your logic: there is no point to work hard and earn better salary, because every douchebag can buy lottery ticket and get same money.

[vsb]

Ahh, these mythical LFRs running in full mythic set... ;D

Your logic: there is no point to work hard and earn better salary, because every douchebag can buy lottery ticket and get same money.

It's not my logic. It happens in WoW right now. Both LFR raiders and mythic raiders run with 410 ilvl gear.