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    Quote Originally Posted by joebob42 View Post
    People don't have to be depressed or even sad to be suicidal. It's just like quitting WoW or something else you're bored with. Some people really do not want kids. If you don't want kids, then there may not be anything else on the menu of life that you're interested in. That doesn't mean anything is wrong with you. It just means you don't want to play the game.
    Not sure how that was relevant to my or his comment. I don't know enough about psychology, but from my own experience and therapy sessions that means you have depression. However depression doesn't mean sadness, it can also mean pointlessness and ambivalence which can cause sadness.

    Close your social media. Close your TVs
    Go out in the world and live.
    Suicides will drop!
    It's that easy

    Smartphones are the enemy of happiness
    Barely use social media, Barely watching TV, Barely using smartphone. It's not that easy. Downplaying and thinking there is an easy fix for it doesn't really help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Not sure how that was relevant to my or his comment. I don't know enough about psychology, but from my own experience and therapy sessions that means you have depression. However depression doesn't mean sadness, it can also mean pointlessness and ambivalence which can cause sadness.
    I find it interesting that suicide is often seen as a personal issue of mental health, never mind that society, culture, experience (and genetics) all play a part in your perception of reality, and if you are having "fun" or not.
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  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Fiction-Based Religion
    There's no other kind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryonas View Post
    There's no other kind...
    Some fictions impart wisdom, say Lord of the Rings, some not so much, say Beavis and Butthead.
    Vocatus atque non vocatus, deus aderit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    We can infer by history, ie that it was "worse" due to things like resources, food, disease, war (which was fought to secure those things), but that suicide rate from what we know, seems to be going up now...

    My contention is the same one Jung and other psychologists made... that without a stable cultural narrative, and without a "future" one can see for themselves, society tends to turn into what we have now...

    People killing themselves, depressed, believing in anything that gives them some meaning:

    ‘Snapewives’ and ‘Snapeism’: A Fiction-Based Religion within the Harry Potter Fandom
    https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/5/1/219/htm

    Suicide rates rise sharply across the United States, new report shows
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9659722a61a6
    Instead of going back to the dark ages of human history, how about we take a more realistic approach and tackle the problems. You can't wish people into being at your level of "devotion" let's call it so we can instead deal with healthcare and mental health issues and cost, childcare and lack thereof and education. If we remove the punitive cost of child birth not to mention the death rate of women who give birth that would go a long way. In terms of depression and suicide we need to deal with the opoid crisis which seem directly connected to suicide rates and its root economic cause.

    P.S lol at thinking those Harry potter fans are not religious to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Instead of going back to the dark ages of human history, how about we take a more realistic approach and tackle the problems. You can't wish people into being at your level of "devotion" let's call it so we can instead deal with healthcare and mental health issues and cost, childcare and lack thereof and education. If we remove the punitive cost of child birth not to mention the death rate of women who give birth that would go a long way. In terms of depression and suicide we need to deal with the opoid crisis which seem directly connected to suicide rates and its root economic cause.

    P.S lol at thinking those Harry potter fans are not religious to begin with
    It’s not level of devotion; and good luck!
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  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Not sure how that was relevant to my or his comment. I don't know enough about psychology, but from my own experience and therapy sessions that means you have depression. However depression doesn't mean sadness, it can also mean pointlessness and ambivalence which can cause sadness.
    Except a lot of people are not sad. They are quite happy at the prospect of heading out the door. Make a bucket list. Cross off the list. Mic drop, I'm out.

    Everybody dies. Not everybody truly lives. I know that I have absolutely zero desire to ever be bedridden, practically blind, unable to take even basic care of myself in old age. That does not appeal to me. It's just like I am absolutely certain that I have no desire to be strapped to the rack, covered in spiders, then stretched until my ligaments all pop.

    Life is like an all you can eat buffet. There comes a time when some people are full. More than that is not better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telygroar View Post
    Or no more energy because you work your ass off and dont have the time to think about family... And when the work stop, you dont know what to do anymore.
    That's a problem in places like Japan for working men. I don't think 5-18 year olds in the US are becoming suicidal because they work too hard to spend time with their families.

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    I mean, does that really surprise anyone? We all know what happens when we let single moms raise young boys



    Does that sound like a viable reproduction specimen to ya'll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    Coming from a woman, it seems extremely comical. Not sure if it's your typical trolling, or if you're really this oblivious to reality.
    It's not hard for any man who is even remotely a decent human being, who cares about their appearances and doesn't have absurd standards, to find someone if they're actually looking for someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dziubla View Post
    Coming from a woman, it seems extremely comical. Not sure if it's your typical trolling, or if you're really this oblivious to reality.

    Also, everyone knows that for a woman, to find someone to have sex with, all you need to do is exist. And be willing. There are absolutely no other requirements. Even the biggest landwhales can easily find some desperate dudes if they want to.

    For guys? Yeeeah...If you take a look at some of the stats from "dating" apps, where over 80% of men get absolutely no matches whatsoever...Somehow I'm willing to believe that situation for young men is not looking good. Especially since they're still young enough, and brainwashed enough, to believe that women are the one and only source of happiness. Doesn't really surprise me that those who can't find someone, get more and more depressed, even to the point of suicide. The fact that society mocks and blames them for everything, even simply existing, or being born with a penis, isn't helping much either.

    And frankly, it will only keep getting worse. Unless we stop this bullshit programming where women=happiness, and teach young boys to find happiness within themselves, I'm fairly certain that suicide rates amongst <20yo, or even <30yo men will reach truly astronomical numbers. And yet, society will keep ignoring it, since obviously The Future is Female, and only our precious girls matter.

    Oh well. I'll be in my basement, eagerly awaiting the decline of western civilizaiton as we know it. Very curious how our Feminist Overlords will manage, once there are no more men to bail them out of troubles

    You are being quite overly dramatic about feminism and throwing all the blame on women for not wanting to fuck socially inapt males.
    You didn't tell the full story about those dating sites statistics. Males get so few matches because they are only interested in the top hottest bimbo ass profiles to satisfy their pornhub fantasies.
    Everyone swipes just to the most attractive profiles hence the low match ratings. Thats a normal and natural behavior of males and females to look for the most attractive partners with the big problem of the vast number of younger males not being able to do their part.
    Most of the causes I'd attribute to parenting failure, its the generation that grew up reaping all the "benefits" of divorces, single moms , lack of good father figures which is the cause for a lot of mental issues in developing males.
    The retarded ease of access to porn for kids and the quality of it also mentally fucks them up. If you grow up wanking every day to the hottest 0.0001% females you will have a mental breakdown when reality catches up and you realize you wasted most of time in porn, video games and other "productive" activities on the internet
    Growing up in today's world is also extremely fucked up by social media. Wow look at all your friends, school mates, colleagues , celebrities, w/es. Everyone spams his fake happy and successful snaps everyday in your face while you are sad and miserable inside.

    The world is changing and will never go back to what it used to be in terms of male and female relationships. If you can't get laid you will die alone and the ones that do, get to further the species. Thats how nature works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    It's not hard for any man who is even remotely a decent human being, who cares about their appearances and doesn't have absurd standards, to find someone if they're actually looking for someone.
    The immaturity and personal failure to understand you are responsible for how females and attract and interact with you is the cause for some fucked up young males.
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