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  1. #61
    If I understand how things work:

    You cannot do quests in raid.
    People forming raids, they are doing it for fun and yeah, if there are bazillion of bald orcs corpse camping you, you cannot do anything about it.

    I don't think that he does not sees the problem but he is right, party vs party feels right.

    What else is a problem?

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I think gank groups are just out there for Achievements/Conquest from Call to Arms.
    There are guilds which dedicated their time to gank people, then run to forums and post screeshots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
    Russians are a nation inhabiting territory of Russia an ex-USSR countries. Russians enjoy drinking vodka and listening to the bears playing button-accordions. Russians are open- and warm- hearted. They are ready to share their last prianik (russian sweet cookie) with guests, in case lasts encounter that somewhere. Though, it's almost unreal, 'cos russians usually hide their stuff well.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    People feeling obliged to complete these quests for said rewards, then they'll flood various forums with "WoW feels like a second job and a chore" and "blizzard is forcing me to do pvp" posts
    but do they do it ? i mean the reward is crap since normal dailies 4 quest offer you exackly the same itlv rewards. and i cant 385 gear being appealing to anyone who doesnt enjoy doin it in first place

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Shut down Warmode if he/she doesn't want to challenge a Raid.
    But warmode will be forced on us in the new zones they add.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    But warmode will be forced on us in the new zones they add.
    The hell? No they won't. Why would you think it's forced?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Togabito View Post
    you do the overwhelming odds quest alone?
    Yes, me too. I just do it in one week like its supposed to be, instead of "farming it" in one go. It's really easy to get some kills while doing wolrld quests or more easily via invasions

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    but do they do it ? i mean the reward is crap since normal dailies 4 quest offer you exackly the same itlv rewards. and i cant 385 gear being appealing to anyone who doesnt enjoy doin it in first place
    400 ilvl conquest gear. The Azerite pieces in particular are amazing. Only thing saving raid gear is Treacherous Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vashe9 View Post
    Yes, me too. I just do it in one week like its supposed to be, instead of "farming it" in one go. It's really easy to get some kills while doing wolrld quests or more easily via invasions
    Yeah I also do it this way while doing faction assaults.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    but do they do it ? i mean the reward is crap since normal dailies 4 quest offer you exackly the same itlv rewards. and i cant 385 gear being appealing to anyone who doesnt enjoy doin it in first place
    Apparently yes.

    No reward is crap according to these people, since anything can titanforge into 450 item or something, so in order to get the best gear, you have to do everything, everywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    The hell? No they won't. Why would you think it's forced?
    "War Mode is enabled in Mechagon, but the central hub is neutral and you will be attacked by guards if you initiate combat with the opposite faction. The turrets are not PvP enabled, but it seems like Ion wanted them to be now that Taliesin mentioned it."

    I'd think it was forced because Blizzard forced it on. Just a guess though.

  10. #70
    Warmode isn't a new thing, you've always been able to swap between PvE servers and PvP servers... but you used to have to pay for the privilege.
    Now you just head to your capital and swap server type.

    That's all ... people complaining about having more choice and paying Blizzard less money are missing the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    But warmode will be forced on us in the new zones they add.
    Incorrect - Warmode will be ENABLED, but it will still be up to you to toggle it ON or OFF.

    Boycotting Blizzard is like a lactose intolerant person boycotting milk purchases to protest about cruelty to cows, then eating his hamburger whilst doing so.
    If you want to protest against China - then do something meaningful and protest against China

  11. #71
    War mode is good thing. I'd just like to see more WPvP like activities in the world, there's a lot of potential.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    400 ilvl conquest gear. The Azerite pieces in particular are amazing. Only thing saving raid gear is Treacherous Covenant.

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    Yeah I also do it this way while doing faction assaults.
    dont you need a decent arena rating for this ? i thought that people who dont do arenas get 370 or similiar crap from conquest. but may be wrong.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    dont you need a decent arena rating for this ? i thought that people who dont do arenas get 370 or similiar crap from conquest. but may be wrong.
    Nope, once you get through one cycle of 385 conquest gear, you start getting 400 gear.

  14. #74
    Sometimes u gotta do what you gotta do. You bring fun to other 24 people, enjoy yourself for fulfilling your purpose in this game, you are the content in world pvp.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Flurryfang View Post
    What do you think are the negative consequences of giving WPVP quest rewards?
    promotes what i said

    Raids killing solo innocent players

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    None of this is specific to Warmode. It's a problem with world PvP in general.
    Exactly. And Ion is so stubbornly arrogant or ignorant that he refuses to or is incapable of understanding this. He's also arrogant enough as to his ability to know what's best for players (despite frequently being in DIRECT opposition of what the player base has clearly stated) that it didn't occur to him to make "War Mode" the standard for PvP realms only. They could easily have limited War Mode to "always on" buffs for PvP realms, thereby leaving PvE realms the hell alone.

    Blizz could have offered free realm transfer(s) to PvP realms afterwards, or let people pay to move (or level new toons), but instead he's forced this toxic nonsense onto PvE realms, making it harder to find groups for PvE content in non-War Mode. It makes PvE min-maxers feel compelled to War Mode even if they really don't want to.

    Worse, despite sticking to non-War Mode on my main level characters, I get flagged more than ever before, because they deliberately hid tons of opposing faction camps everywhere, putting them on top of WQ objectives or using harsh terrain to funnel players into force flag zones. And again, if a player gets flagged, it's "THEIR FAULT" even though Ion (amoral liar) promised players would finally be free from force flagging, and that THAT was what PvE players gained from the addition of War Mode to their PvE realms.

    Meanwhile, people leveling in War Mode tend to leave each other alone (cuz trolls tend to be the only people that really want world PvP - so long as it's unfair world PvP with them having a gross advantage), but even THAT is ruined by bullying trolls at level 110-120 that go to lowbie areas and slaughter questers, sometimes even as players of THEIR OWN FACTION emote for them to stop!!!

    PvE players just get completely screwed. Words cannot express the hate and contempt I have for that dude for his heavy-handed approach that is RUINING this game.
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  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Tazr View Post
    Exactly. And Ion is so freaking stupid that he doesn't understand this. He's also such an incompetent moron that it didn't occur to him to make "War Mode" the standard for PvP realms, leaving PvE realms the hell alone. They could have offered free realm transfer(s) to PvP realms afterwards, or let people pay to move, but instead he's forced this toxic nonsense onto PvE realms, making it harder to find groups for PvE content because FOMO has too many people in War Mode.

    Worse, I get flagged more than ever, because they deliberately hid tons of opposing faction camps everywhere and put them on top of WQ objectives or used harsh terrain to funnel you into force flag zones. And again, if you get flagged, it's "YOUR FAULT" even though Ion (amoral liar) promised that you wouldn't get force flagged, and that THAT was what PvE players on PvE realms gained from the addition of War Mode to their realms.

    Meanwhile, people leveling in War Mode leave each other alone, and bullying trolls at level 110-120 go to lowbie areas and slaughter questers, sometimes even as players of THEIR OWN FACTION emote for them to stop!!!

    PvE players just get completely screwed. Words cannot express the hate and contempt I have for that dude.
    All I hear is incompetence.

  18. #78
    All posts like this: "<insert other faction here> are ganking people too much. Warmode is fun only when I'm on the winning side. Blizzard needs to make <my faction> dominant in PvP again."

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    All posts like this: "<insert other faction here> are ganking people too much. Warmode is fun only when I'm on the winning side. Blizzard needs to make <my faction> dominant in PvP again."
    its not about that
    is about promoting an unhealthy pvp experience

    like ion said (if you read) party of 5 combat is what is right

  20. #80
    WM is a great feature. It's a lot of fun and makes the world a bit more threatening on the whole. My only complaint is that they're not capitalizing on it more with more features. Though, that might change with 8.2.

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