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    Patch 8.2 Rise of Azshara - Information Roundup from Content Creators

    Rise of Azshara Preview: Heart of Azeroth Updates

    Rise of Azshara Content Preview Live Stream

    Taliesin and Evitel Patch 8.2 Information
    The popular Youtubers Taliesin and Evitel got to visit Blizzard headquarters to play Rise of Azshara and have a lot of new information not seen in the livestream!


    • Heart of Azeroth
      • The Heart of Azeroth UI shown in the live stream is unfinished and will have a lot more as BfA progresses.
      • In between the major and minor abilities are smaller traits to unlock similar to the Legion artifact.
      • There are unique essences for each type of content, such as one for reputation grinds, raiding, dungeons, etc.
      • You get a new rank for each of these as you progress in the content relevant to it. Example - Rank 1 for honored, Rank 2 for revered, etc for reputation essence.
      • Each essence has a major and minor effect. If you place an essence into the major slot, it will get both benefits. In a minor slot, it will only get the minor benefit.
      • The visual effect for max rank will be impressive.
      • All essences will work in PvP according to Holinka.
      • Some of the essence effects affect a spec/class specific spell.
      • Blizzard expects people to have about 6 different essences unlocked by the end of the first week.
      • Essences work exactly like talents, meaning they can be freely swapped in a rested zone or with a tome.
      • There are new raid and dungeon specific Azerite Traits, dungeon ones being from Mechagon.
      • By the end of 8.3 you will probably have 4 minor essences and possibly 2 major.
    • Mechagon
      • Mechagon is bigger than the Timeless Isle, but not as vertical. Nazjatar is HUGE.
      • Mechagon and Nazjatar will be fully open on day 1, while the dungeon and raid will launch either the second or third week.
      • The Mecha-wheel mount special has the wheel spin around while you do a backflip with fire effects.
      • The Mecha-wheel is the reward for completing the meta achievement for Mechagon.
      • Mechagon is a grinding island, with the potential to be an endless grind if you want.
      • The Prince of Mechagon is the leader of the resistance you do quests for on the island.
      • Constructions pop up all over the island that you need to donate resources to build up.
      • Almost all mobs on the island drop relevant resources for the constructions.
      • Mechagon is a big "collect stuff for rewards" island.
      • Mechagon is not timegated, but it is impossible to complete it in one day.
      • Mechagon has the most secrets per square inch than any other place in the game.
      • The gameplay affecting systems like customizing your trinket will not take too long. Collecting all the rewards, however, will take some time.
      • Resources are not just used for building, but for progressing in the island's secrets.
      • War Mode is enabled in Mechagon, but the central hub is neutral and you will be attacked by guards if you initiate combat with the opposite faction. The turrets are not PvP enabled, but it seems like Ion wanted them to be now that Taliesin mentioned it.
      • The trinket has slots like gem slots, and you collect schematics and recipes to build punch cards, or the cards themselves to slot into the trinket.
      • They start by just giving stat boosts, but eventually will also give you effects as you find better ones.
      • There will be the return of "actual" rares that don't pop up often.
      • You can paint and customize your mechano-cat mount by earning resources.
    • Operation: Mechagon Dungeon
      • The Mechagon dungeon starts outside and eventually you move into the heart of the city.
      • There is a stealth portion of the dungeon where you have to stand on vents to keep hidden.
      • The loot in Mechagon will be similar item level compared to Karazhan/Emerald Nightmare, however, there will be unique schematics for punch cards in the dungeon that mythic raiders will want.
      • Some of the punch cards for the trinket interact with the Azerite traits from Mechagon.
    • Nazjatar
      • Nazjatar is the big story focused island.
      • The Nazjatar zone is not really time gated, but the story will progress over weeks.
    • Flying
      • Pathfinder Part II will take as long as it did in Legion, involving rep from both Nazjatar and Mechagon.
    • Mount Equipment
      • The Mount Equipment that prevents being dazed is created by blacksmiths.
      • These equipment slots are like gems. They last until you replace them with another one.
      • If you have the Water Strider mount, you receive the water walking mount equipment for free in the mail on patch day.
      • Furthermore, if you already have the strider you can buy the water walking mount equipment for a substantially reduced price from the vendor who sold you the mount.
      • The Water Strider will no longer be able to walk on water without the equipment slot.
      • The Sky Golem will still be able to harvest herbs, but it will not benefit from mount equipment.
      • Natural abilities like tanks not getting dazed or Death Knights water walking will stack with equipment.
      • More mount equipment items will be added in the future.
      • Lvl 100 is the current requirement to equip mount equipment, but it will likely be changed. (confirmed that you need to have a level 100 character and then the equipment can be used from level 20 on all other toons, with the equipment being BoA.)
    • Azshara's Eternal Palace
      • The underwater boss is the second boss in Azshara's Eternal Palace. There is no mechanic that requires 3D mechanic knowledge. The boss has platforms that you fight on and you basically swim through a gauntlet to get to him on other platforms.
      • Swim speed is actually the same as run speed without a mount.
      • Breath is not an issue in the fight.
      • Druids will have a speed advantage in the fight during platform transitions with aquatic form.
      • We will know who the final boss of Battle for Azeroth is after the events of this raid.
      • Taliesin will reveal who they think the final boss of the expansion is in their weekly video.
      • Lady Priscilla Ashvane is a boss in Azshara's Eternal Palace and her model is a sea giant.
      • At one point in the fight, Ashvane comes out of this form, but her new form is a secret.
    • Miscellaneous
      • They both felt that the developers really do feel like making the best game possible for players and care about player feedback.


    4FanSites Information
    German fansite 4FanSites also has some new information form their time at Blizzard for the 8.2 announcements.


    • Blizzcon will happen this year.
    • Housing is a big topic at Blizzard. The developers are still thinking about how to implement it so that it does not feel so clumsy.
    • Blizzard wants to change warforged and titanforged items, but they don't have a solution in place for it. Without this system, some players would have their maximum gear after only a few weeks and thus have nothing left to aim for gear wise.
    • The team has discussed having only 1 reroll per week, but have it be an 100% chance to get an item.
    • There will be new pets to fight as well as a new Pet Battle Dungeon.


    Method Interview
    Method also interviewed Blizzard and have some information from their visit.


    • The new resource gathering system at various points around the island provides small goals to work towards by yourself or with friends.
    • The new Heart of Azeroth traits are mostly shared between everyone, with a few spec specific traits.
    • The system is similar to glyphs, with one Major and two Minor slots. You start with just the one Major slot, then level up the Heart of Azeroth to unlock the Minor slots.
    • You fill the slots with essences, which can be found from world quests, reputations, PvP, raids, or various other sources.
    • Essences have ranks, with the top rank being a cosmetic effect.
    • Essences have a Major and Minor power. You get both powers when an essence is in a Major slot.
    • Essences are unique, so you can't stack 3 of the same essence.
    • Essences can be respeced at no cost in a rested area.
    • Mount equipment items work similar to gems, they can be swapped but the old one will be consumed in the process.
    • Stormwall Blockade to Jaina had too much of an increase in difficulty, but this was due to the bosses before Jaina being too easy rather than Jaina being too hard.
    • Crucible of Storms starts at middle of Battle of Dazar'alor difficulty, with the last boss being similar to Jaina in difficulty


    Forbes Developer Interview
    Forbes released another article with a bit of information prior to the live stream today.


    • Crucible of Storms begins to set the stage for what is going on beneath the waves
    • Pathfinder Part 2 allows players to fly in Nazjatar, Mechagon, Kul Tiras, and Zandalar
    • The world is more intimidating when you can't just fly over everything. You also get a better sense of place when exploring from the ground.
    • There may be restrictions on flying if you have recently been in War Mode combat, or some other restrictions that aren't overly punishing.
    • War Mode has been successful. In the past you may have quested next to someone of the opposite faction and not fought, but now both people have opted in to War Mode and fights are more common.
    • Tortollan quests had a few more quests added to the pool so that you have a choice and can avoid a heavily camped quest if you don't want to fight.
    • War Mode participation has increased over the last couple months.
    • The team doesn't have a solution to the raid faction imbalance right now, but there may be something to learn from with the War Mode incentives. Any incentives would need to be balanced to avoid encouraging massive faction migration.
    • It's a question of, how can we build a healthier high-end Mythic Plus scene, or a healthier high-end raid scene on the Alliance side, among the Alliance population. Horde and Alliance populations are actually well balanced across the world, there is just less of a raiding community on the Alliance side.
    • War Mode offers bonus rewards for the outnumbered faction proportional to how outnumbered you are, which is because they face a greater challenge. An Alliance Mythic Plus group and a Horde Mythic Plus group are doing the exact same dungeon with the exact same difficulty once they're in it, so giving one more rewards than the other doesn't make sense.
    • It's very unlikely we'll see a mercenary system for PvE, as the divide is such a core part of the story and game. It also does more to help queue times, as it switches a player from one side of the queue to another. Mercenary mode doesn't let you make social connections, so it wouldn't help the long term health of the PvE community on a faction.
    • The Heart of Azeroth, Islands, and Island Expedition rewards were some of the challenging new systems. The team made the short term changes that they could make with Tides of Vengeance.
    • From just a few weeks in, the team has been planning to shift the Heart of Azeroth to a more Legion artifact style. This gives a longer-term progression system that offers a lot more choice, a lot more customization, goals to work towards, and choose from.
    • The team heard the frustration at the lack of agency and progression with the Heart of Azeroth.
    • The team wants to lessen the negative feeling of bad RNG when it comes to Mythic Plus rewards, but they are sufficiently rewarding already, so they can't make the system more generous.
    • Your helm, shoulders and chest will still be Azerite gear, they will have their rings. But the level requirements will not continue to increase, so you'll have access to all of them.
    • There aren't any plans to set the new NPC AI loose into the world, as people expect mobs to behave a certain way and the team wants to be careful about changing that.
    • We could see the AI in other battlegrounds in the future, such as a Warsong brawl.

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    Of course the sycophants would say the devs "genuinely care and listen to feedback"

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    Incredibly happy to hear that housing is still on the table.

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    The Water Strider will no longer be able to walk on water without the equipment slot.
    What the actual fuck?

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    •Housing is a big topic at Blizzard. The developers are still thinking about how to implement it so that it does not feel so clumsy.
    This is the most exciting bit for me. Player housing would be very interesting. But I have my fingers crossed for something like a Guild Hall. (Or Guild Skyship)

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    I think i'd rather have the anti daze effect than the water walking anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    •Housing is a big topic at Blizzard. The developers are still thinking about how to implement it so that it does not feel so clumsy.
    This is the most exciting bit for me. Player housing would be very interesting. But I have my fingers crossed for something like a Guild Hall. (Or Guild Skyship)
    As long as it doesn't end up "Human housing for Alliance, Orc housing for Horde" nor adding in important NPCs (AH, Bank, Professions) that gives you no reason to ever leave the place (AKA Garrisons), this is the only thing I am interested in seeing. I only want it to be for customization, trophies and cosmetics, nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    What the actual fuck?
    Yeah I find it a bit of a silly choice, I guess they have reasons, what they are though I have no idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    I think i'd rather have the anti daze effect than the water walking anyways
    Going to put a lot of leatherworkers out of business.. lol

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    There will be the return of "actual" rares that don't pop up often.

    In other words content where you have to sit in one place for days if you want to see it thereby increasing time spent in game without actually doing anything.

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    Remove Waterstrider water walking ability but Sky Golem keeps it's ability. You don't make sense Blizz gg

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    Looking forward to 8.2, sounds like much needed content.

    The video on the top though...
    The guy needs to either do these himself or let the lady talk without wanting to burst. FFS he had such a hard time with letting her speak that the moment she spoke he takes a drink of coffee to give her a chance and as soon as he finishes his sip he is just chomping at the bit to dominate the discussion again. Then he intensely stares at her yapping while she avoids his gaze. The whole scene is so odd that I had a hard time listening to what he is saying. Cringy AF. Guy should have smoked some of that dank Cali bud first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    •Housing is a big topic at Blizzard. The developers are still thinking about how to implement it so that it does not feel so clumsy.
    This is the most exciting bit for me. Player housing would be very interesting. But I have my fingers crossed for something like a Guild Hall. (Or Guild Skyship)
    Don't hold your breath, they've been saying this since vanilla.

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    They're STILL defending not flying. Jesus, we get it, Ion.

    Grind two reps to exalted to get flying. Yada yada. That's all that needed to be said.

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    Wow, mount equipment. How many years has FF14 had that?

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    "Mechagon is not timegated, but it is impossible to complete it in one day."

    Someone out there will do it. Unless they do a hard cap on amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    "Mechagon is not timegated, but it is impossible to complete it in one day."

    Someone out there will do it. Unless they do a hard cap on amounts.
    "It's totally not time gated, but its actually tied to daily quests, week long missions, and raid resets!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaking Frumpy Frak View Post
    Wow, mount equipment. How many years has FF14 had that?
    You mean chocobo barding? That's just visual customization.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    What the actual fuck?
    Makes sense from a game design perspective:

    1) strider water walking gives too much value over other mounts other than expedition yak and sky golem, them being the three main utility mounts. I have a feeling they wanna reduce players using the strider out in the world, and introduce more mount variety/mount choice.

    because of mounts like sky golem and water strider, when i get a new, shiny mount, i oogle at it, but end up not using it because it lacks that utility

    2) If they let it keep its water walking, you wouldn’t ever use the the water walking mount equipment. You’d use something else, and switch to the water strider when you need it. It’d hurt the choice-making/significance of the new mount equipment system. Think it’s a matter of time before they do the same with sky golem, and add herb gathering equipment. Maybe not since only herb gathers use it vs everybody using the water strider. Maybe mining equipment one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoy View Post
    They both felt that the developers really do feel like making the best game possible for players and care about player feedback.
    LMAO. BFA beta disagrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMX- View Post
    Makes sense from a game design perspective:

    1) strider water walking gives too much value over other mounts other than expedition yak and sky golem, them being the three main utility mounts. I have a feeling they wanna reduce players using the strider out in the world, and introduce more mount variety/mount choice.

    because of mounts like sky golem and water strider, when i get a new, shiny mount, i oogle at it, but end up not using it because it lacks that utility

    2) If they let it keep its water walking, you wouldn’t ever use the the water walking mount equipment. You’d use something else, and switch to the water strider when you need it. It’d hurt the choice-making/significance of the new mount equipment system. Think it’s a matter of time before they do the same with sky golem, and add herb gathering equipment. Maybe not since only herb gathers use it vs everybody using the water strider. Maybe mining equipment one day.
    1) I have two water striders, that never stopped me from using random favourite mount button.
    2) They should have unlocked water walking on all mounts without equipment and do the same with non-PvP daze. There's no reason for these mechanics existance, they are nothing but annoyance.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

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    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    Yeah I find it a bit of a silly choice, I guess they have reasons, what they are though I have no idea..

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    Going to put a lot of leatherworkers out of business.. lol
    Because if they allow you to walk and not be dazed no one would ever not use the strider. The whole point is to let you use whatever mount you want.

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