
Originally Posted by
Evelyn
So if you've done 21's in time, you think it's asking too much to be let into a 22? That is closer to what I am talking about. Needing to have timed 12 in all dungeons when a number of dungeons I haven't timed in 12, I've timed in 13 and 14, its a ridiculous requirement.
Another example, the other day I tried to get into a 13 Kings Rest and the leader asked me If I've timed KR 13 before. I said no, I had only timed a 12 KR. He said sorry not good enough then put me on ignore. Which was strange because I wasn't harassing him or anything. I just replied with lol? Then you have people who haven't even completed said dungeon on that level in time demanding that others looking to join, have, or higher. But I'm entitled for thinking excessive requirements are excessive. Like those entitled millennial's. They want a job but lack an x amount of experience but aren't given a chance to get experience aka field experience loop.
I didn't even do any of the dungeons or normal/heroic/mythic. I either read up or watched quick videos and started with an 8 and was doing 10s later my first week. If people have gear and skill and knowledge of dungeons and affix, they can do well and skip levels in their climb. Obviously I don't expect to be skipped many levels at high mythic+ but 1-2 is not out of the question. I'd consider you an elitist for expecting everyone to jump through an x number of hoops to gain your respect and trust that they are capable, when it is clearly not necessary to prove oneself capable.
I don't disagree with you here, but that isn't really what is being debated.
I just did a 16 last week and 4 people had lower io than me, one under 1k, and 3 people had lower item level than me. Did I get carried?? We unfortunately didn't make it in time (over by 5 minutes) but that may have something to do with the tank unnecessarily pulling multiple groups at once, which he did 3 damn times to my confusion. They didn't seem to care that the key got killed, but it didn't need to be.