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    Blizzard needs to come clean about player choice quests

    Right now it's impossible to determine what the outcome of different choices will be. Common sense says that Sylvanas will be deposed and the people who sided with her will get a traitor's death, but Afriasbi keeps insisting that this won't be a "SoO v2" and Sylvanas won't "end up in chains".

    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Right now it's impossible to determine what the outcome of different choices will be. Common sense says that Sylvanas will be deposed and the people who sided with her will get a traitor's death, but Afriasbi keeps insisting that this won't be a "SoO v2" and Sylvanas won't "end up in chains".

    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?
    Think it is quite clear, currently, it is flavour. Nothing more. Ship's name is going to be what you picked for that instance of your story. Maybe in the future we'll see something. The only thing that our choices has done so for is change a flavour of something, and gain a toy.
    FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Right now it's impossible to determine what the outcome of different choices will be. Common sense says that Sylvanas will be deposed and the people who sided with her will get a traitor's death, but Afriasbi keeps insisting that this won't be a "SoO v2" and Sylvanas won't "end up in chains".

    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?
    I doubt that they'll make anything that actually lasts. Especially seeing that in the not to distant future, people will be able to simply buy past these decisions. I expect them to have an influence on the next addon, at best. Probably not even that. The conflict will end, and one side will be told 'You did the right thing!' while the other gets a 'you did the wrong thing!' Cutscene. Or even worse, one side gets the 'you did the morally right but legally wrong thing, and the other side the opposit.' Your character will not be executed, or imprisoned, or recieve a 'you fucked up!' debuff.

    As for rewards: None will be given that cannot be earned by the 'other side' of the argument.

    As for who's right: Currently, the 'honorable' Horde. But Blizzard will already have a gigantic plot twist thought up that for whatever reason redeems her in the eyes of the world... and it will suck, monumentously. If anybody things the story of BfA will resolve in a satisfying way, they haven't been paying attention to the people who write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Right now it's impossible to determine what the outcome of different choices will be. Common sense says that Sylvanas will be deposed and the people who sided with her will get a traitor's death, but Afriasbi keeps insisting that this won't be a "SoO v2" and Sylvanas won't "end up in chains".

    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?
    1. Doubt it. Will probably just end up with the same things happening post BFA.
    2. Siding with the only half decent character left in the game is the reward.
    3. Patch 9.0.
    4. Doesn't matter. It'll be same/similar endings.

    You really expect Blizzard to be able to make a good branching story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?
    You can't have both choices and always being on the right side.

    Answering 2,3,4 take away the point of the choice. You side with the side you think is doing the right thing. If you are just siding with them for rewards then that doesn't make your character "the good person who did the right thing".

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    You really expect Blizzard to be able to make a good branching story?
    I'd expect them to be able to make one, but not in a game that was made 15 years ago and doesn't revolve around the Players. While we get to do most of the shit that drives the story forward, the NPCs dictated where the story goes. If they had wanted a branching story they would have had to actually make it possible for Players to leave the Horde or the Alliance, refuse orders, kill NPCs to a lasting effecct, and so on, which would clash horribly with the gameplay.

  7. #7
    Blizz goes as far as adding branching quest lines for their favorite faction and the boys are still not happy, get a load of that one.

  8. #8
    OMG surprise Horde faction split !

    ... seriously. Like they would take any risk with their 14-years old cash cow game.

    Just relax and read the quests text you missed on wowhead or play an alt. Nothing will have any real consequence.

  9. #9
    It’s a choice your character has to make in the moment, they can’t read the future so blizzard doesn’t have to share what’s to come.

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    It’s pretty clear that the choice is meaningless.

    Siding with Sylvanas basically means ‘playing along’ with the rebels up to and including the quest to kill her where we also ‘play along’. Making the rebels think we were in their side all along! Because we helped them kill Sylvanas and the rest of the Horde.

    Then we report back to Nathanos who thanks us for our service and tells us that the Dark Lady will be pleased before he unceremoniously jumps off a cliff, leaving us with ten gold as a reward.

  11. #11
    It's clear and obvious that the plot will be same regardless, just different sides and perspective on the journey there. It's a good thing for flavor and could tell a more nuanced story.

  12. #12
    A good story doesn't have clear good and bad choices, and the choice is really meaningful. That's why Witcher 3 had the best story in a game ever. In a MMO that's not even possible, you only have the illusion of choice.

  13. #13
    Knowing Blizzard it's only flavor. Otherwise people will whine that they took the "wrong" decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Right now it's impossible to determine what the outcome of different choices will be. Common sense says that Sylvanas will be deposed and the people who sided with her will get a traitor's death, but Afriasbi keeps insisting that this won't be a "SoO v2" and Sylvanas won't "end up in chains".

    Some of us have invested 14 years into our characters. Making the "wrong" decisions and being reprimanded by the "winning side" for the rest of our WoW careers would be less than satisfying.

    There needs to be more transparency about what these player choice quests will result in. The following information is absolutely necessary:

    (1) Will player choices have long-lasting effects beyond BfA?
    (2) What will be the reward for siding with Saurfang?
    (3) What will be the reward for siding with Sylvanas?
    (4) Which side is the "right" one?
    this is a none issues, someone who levels a new char in the next expansion won't have to do the BFA quest line that opens at 120 as once they hit 118-120 they will move to the new zone to level up. The only issue that could happen that is currently happening is toys. Everything has been datamines on the PTR before it got to live so it's never been a surprise, if you're really worried.. don't do the quest until you know the final outcome?

  15. #15
    In two decades blizzard has never allowed players a choice that more then superficially changed the story. Just go for what rewards you want now then hit the question up with a alt for the others.

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    You'll get a different achievement and probably a different title based on whether you were a loyalist or a double agent, is my guess, with an upcoming watershed moment being the end of the loyalist/rebel arc that sends the loyalists to the rebellion, because if Blizzard already struggles to write two storylines why would they want to add a third?
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