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  1. #1221
    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    Well, yes. Maybe more than one button, but still. If Cyberpunk can be released on both systems, then I don't see why Demon's Souls couldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattleya View Post
    Exactly, that was pretty much the point Tech was trying to make in reply to the person saying Demon's Souls doesn't have a PS4 version just because Sony just wants to sell more PS5s. Even Horizon: Forbidden West, which is next year and would absolutely have been a system seller, is also going to be available on PS4.
    Then he is arguing the same thing as I am?

    How is that owning me?

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    Wow...they really are edging us at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Then he is arguing the same thing as I am?

    How is that owning me?
    You implied the only reason DS remake's not on PS4 is because Sony wants it PS5-exclusive to sell more PS5s, but the existence of PS4 versions of Miles Morales and Horizon: Forbidden West kill this implication. If they really wanted to sell more PS5s with exclusives, they would have simply told Insomniac and Guerrilla Games to not make PS4 versions. Especially Horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattleya View Post
    You implied the only reason DS remake's not on PS4 is because Sony wants it PS5-exclusive to sell more PS5s, but the existence of PS4 versions of Miles Morales and Horizon: Forbidden West kill this implication. If they really wanted to sell more PS5s with exclusives, they would have simply told Insomniac and Guerrilla Games to not make PS4 versions. Especially Horizon.
    Maybe they only had the money to provide one exclusive deal and they picked Demon's Souls?

  6. #1226
    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    Maybe they only had the money to provide one exclusive deal and they picked Demon's Souls?
    The hell are you talking about lol. Sony fully owns Insomniac and Guerilla they don't have to pay them for exclusive deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    The hell are you talking about lol. Sony fully owns Insomniac and Guerilla they don't have to pay them for exclusive deals.
    But they would lose out on money from the exclusive deals. Keep in mind they sell consoles at a loss, it's the games that make money. If everything was exclusive to PS5, they would only sell as many games as PS5 units were sold. The company has to keep making profit during the console transition.

  8. #1228
    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    But they would lose out on money from the exclusive deals. Keep in mind they sell consoles at a loss, it's the games that make money. If everything was exclusive to PS5, they would only sell as many games as PS5 units were sold. The company has to keep making profit during the console transition.
    Plus, all the other games and subscriptions people who purchase those PS5's buy. They lose out on money from say, not releasing Demon's Souls on PS4 to expand the audience, but that's a short-term play. They stand for greater future benefits by moving more hardware and getting more folks continuing to spend in their ecosystem as current-gen support fades.

  9. #1229
    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    But they would lose out on money from the exclusive deals. Keep in mind they sell consoles at a loss, it's the games that make money. If everything was exclusive to PS5, they would only sell as many games as PS5 units were sold. The company has to keep making profit during the console transition.
    There is no "exclusive deal".

    FFXVI is an exclusive deal but using that for any first party release would be false.

  10. #1230
    Demon's Souls remake has also been confirmed for PC if no one knows, but it will be later like they did with Death Stranding.
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  11. #1231
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Demon's Souls remake has also been confirmed for PC if no one knows, but it will be later like they did with Death Stranding.
    They already said that was an error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Demon's Souls remake has also been confirmed for PC if no one knows, but it will be later like they did with Death Stranding.
    Wrong, some intern copy pasted the FFXVI wording to Demon's Souls trailer. They already confirmed it was a mistake.

  13. #1233
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Wrong, some intern copy pasted the FFXVI wording to Demon's Souls trailer. They already confirmed it was a mistake.
    I doubt that is the case, of course they are going to cover their asses the Japanese don't make mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I doubt that is the case, of course they are going to cover their asses the Japanese don't make mistakes.
    Pearl Harbor says hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattleya View Post
    It's as if every new console launch, people forget how bad the launch line-up of previous consoles was.
    Think the last console that had a killer app literally on launch day was the 360 with Halo 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    Think the last console that had a killer app literally on launch day was the 360 with Halo 3.
    Halo 3 was actually almost 2 years after the 360's release. Honestly the only real big launch-day-exclusive I can think of after Mario 64, is the first Halo game, for the original Xbox.

    Even Breath of the Wild was a Wii U game, and Twilight Princess a Gamecube game

  17. #1237
    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    Pearl Harbor says hi.
    That wasn't a mistake, and the US knew about it days before the attack and used it to get into the war lol.
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  18. #1238
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I doubt that is the case, of course they are going to cover their asses the Japanese don't make mistakes.
    Japanese?

    You realize SIE is HQed in CA right?

    And yes it was a mistake, you think Sony has to pay for a timed exclusive deal on a game and IP they fully own already? LOL

  19. #1239
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Japanese?

    You realize SIE is HQed in CA right?

    And yes it was a mistake, you think Sony has to pay for a timed exclusive deal on a game and IP they fully own already? LOL
    They will make a lot more money once they release it on PC 6-12 months later which I guarantee is happening. Just put it down somewhere and you shall see. Sony is finally realizing how much money they lose by not releasing certain IP on PC.
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  20. #1240
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    They will make a lot more money once they release it on PC 6-12 months later which I guarantee is happening. Just put it down somewhere and you shall see. Sony is finally realizing how much money they lose by not releasing certain IP on PC.
    What was the last SIE first party exclusive game published on PC 6-12 months later?

    Waiting...

    It honestly could come to PC one day, but the fact you think it will be anytime soon is hilarious when they literally have a massive backlog of PS4 games they could port much like Horizon 1.

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