Mount equipment argument

[niztheundead87]

So, you're telling me that all of my alts, no mattering the lvl, will receive one of this item for free?
And, if I create a new alt, it will automatically receive this item for free?
Because that's how it works today with the mount.

Same thing no difference

[Fred Skinner]

Could that stuff please be available from normal heirloom vendors, if we have to live with this ridiculous nerf at the end?

And could we please have it as heirloom in our heirloom collection and only have to buy it once? I know, Blizzard wants as much token-sex as possible, but please, be not that greedy this time, wont you?

And would the devs please do not punish altoholics anymore?

Gosh. What a fucked up change.

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when the patch hits you will still be able to water walk like before...what is mind blowing is how you dont get this.the water walking
so whats the difference? nothing . just people that cant get this like you.you are crying for no reason

The difference is that you have to purchase this item for gold for .. every.. single.. char, and you have to repurchase it if you change your mount equipment every.. single.. time.

This is a gold sink for blizzard. Seems they do not sell enough tokens.

[niztheundead87]

Could that stuff please be available from normal heirloom vendors, if we have to live with this ridiculous nerf at the end?

And could we please have it as heirloom in our heirloom collection and only have to buy it once? I know, Blizzard wants as much token-sex as possible, but please, be not that greedy this time, wont you?

And would the devs please do not punish altoholics anymore?

Gosh. What a fucked up change.

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The difference is that you have to purchase this item for gold for .. every.. single.. char, and you have to repurchase it if you change your mount equipment every.. single.. time.

This is a gold sink for blizzard. Seems they do not sell enough tokens.

bro can you even read.. you get it in mail .. for FREE
what you see in the ptr as a price is a placeholder

[Fred Skinner]

bro can you even read.. you get it in mail .. for FREE
what you see in the ptr as a price is a placeholder

This is a consumable item, which is to be used a) per character and b) being replaced by any other mount equipment. If you, lets say, want to hop down a cliff with your mount, you need to purchase a mount equip item (for some gold), equiip it, hop off the cliff. Then imagine, you want to use your waterstrider equipment. You have to purchase it, equip it, replace the old one, walk over water for some time.

Rinse and repeat for every single char for every new situation. And the item will be consumed every time you replace it.

[niztheundead87]

This is a consumable item, which is to be used a) per character and b) being replaced by any other mount equipment. If you, lets say, want to hop down a cliff with your mount, you need to purchase a mount equip item (for some gold), equiip it, hop off the cliff. Then imagine, you want to use your waterstrider equipment. You have to purchase it, equip it, replace the old one, walk over water for some time.

Rinse and repeat for every single char for every new situation. And the item will be consumed every time you replace it.

use water walking when you cant fly ,use a glider as usual for cliffs
fly when you can.. no need for anything else.

[Schizoide]

As I understand it, whatever mount equipment you have equipped applies to ALL your mounts. So you can't have a moose with water walking and a direwolf with no-daze.

This explains why they didn't leave waterwalking on the waterstriders and just stop them from using further equipment. The whole point of mount equipment is to stop people from using waterstriders all the time. If waterstriders kept waterwalking, everybody would equip the no-daze equipment and still use waterstriders for all their waterwalking needs. So that does make sense when approached from a mechanical standpoint. It's still silly that waterstriders can't walk on water from the lore side, though.

[coprax]

I'd be okay with the system IF the equipment were on a per-mount basis, where I can fit every individual mount with a piece of my choosing.
But having to swap between items which are also consumables I have to restock every time is just bad, and even worse than before.

[Chromell]

How so? It would be an incentive to actually grind out all the equipment and be rewarded for doing so.

The current system is great if you only play one character, but terrible if you have alts. If they're going to be scarce AND consumable then they need to let us apply them on a mount-by-mount basis.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure what my reasoning was when I posted that reply. I get your point, and more agree with it than not. The main thing I get from this mount equipment thing is that people will be able to water-walk with any mount. Yet for some reason this makes them mad because there will be other equipment you can use instead and this whole outrage seems to stem from the fact that you have to choose which one you want?

[bloomy]

the game and class design are the worst they've ever been and people are worrying about mount equipment... even if you really hate this change, it should still be nowhere near the top of your list of things wrong with the game. but by all means, complain about random shit for no reason.

[nToxik]

I would just like to herb from a different mount other than the Sky Golem. It's big, It's ugly, It doesn't fit through doorways.

[Alvito]

Well the biggest and most glaring issue is that as I recall the mount equip is destroyed if you swap it for another similar to artifact relics which is a huge red flag to me because we also know that mount equipment is shared across all mounts.

Making it inconvenient/clunky to constantly swap equip to suit environment is very annoying and still ends up with the issue of boxing you into using only one item, of course this is dependent on how scarce mount equipment is.

If they made mount equipment heirlooms and put them into the heirloom tab (allowing you to create as many as you want) and/or removed the shared slot I think there would be no issues.

Much like the sky golem they should have left the water strider out of the equipment loop. Letting it still walk on water and not benefitting from other equipment.

[Schizoide]

Much like the sky golem they should have left the water strider out of the equipment loop. Letting it still walk on water and not benefitting from other equipment.

As I just posted, that would obviate the whole reason for the change in the first place.

If they made equipment mount-specific as opposed to apply to all your mounts, that could work. But for example, I have over 400 mounts. So that would be a pretty heavy burden for me, and would lead to me only putting equipment on my favorite mounts, and the 380-odd others would never get used. So that would be a real bummer.

[Druitz]

Something about travel form, is it just slap into face for druid players? Sky golem users will have both gathering on mount and water walking (yes, i got this mount) and druids will be forced to use sky golem because it will be better than now. Actually druid travel form > sky golem.

[niztheundead87]

Something about travel form, is it just slap into face for druid players? Sky golem users will have both gathering on mount and water walking (yes, i got this mount) and druids will be forced to use sky golem because it will be better than now. Actually druid travel form > sky golem.

the sky golem is exempt from the mount equipment for this same reason

[Darkynhalvos]

I’m very confused about the argument of the mount equipment. Everybody uses the water strider as it is the easiest to travel with the water walking. Blizzard has seen this and decided to add a feature to allow people to use their other mounts and also have water walking. They have removed water walking from the strider...but with the shoes you have it back.

How is this a bad thing? You also get the option to have other items equiped instead if you don’t want the water walking. They have literally removed nothing (except the baked in water walking on the strider) and opened up the ability to all mounts. Is anybody able to realistically explain the reason people are upset?

Because we're being forced to pay to regain functionality we've had available to ALL toons, that we EARNED and PAID FOR already.

The best route would have been to leave the strider untouched, but make it unable to use mount equipment. Just like the sky golem.

[rrayy]

bro can you even read.. you get it in mail .. for FREE
what you see in the ptr as a price is a placeholder

YOu get it in the mail for free if you already have the water strider. If you do not have the water strider, you will have to pay for it at the anglers hub.

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Because we're being forced to pay to regain functionality we've had available to ALL toons, that we EARNED and PAID FOR already.

The best route would have been to leave the strider untouched, but make it unable to use mount equipment. Just like the sky golem.

Wrong. If you already have the water strider, you will be given a water walking token in the mail...FOR FREE. So, not, you are not forced to pay for anything.

[Eleccybubb]

Even with mount equipment there is literally no reason to remove the feature from a mount. So what if one mount can have water walking and something else?

Usual ActiBlizz removing stuff for the sake of it rather than for reason as per usual.

[Schizoide]

If the waterstrider could have waterwalking and no-daze, you wouldn't use any other ground mount ever. That's the whole problem they're trying to fix.

If the waterstrider had waterwalking and couldn't use other equipment, that would be the only mount you would use for waterwalking. You would put no-daze on all your other mounts. And again, be stuck with the waterstrider only for water. Which again, is the problem they're trying to fix.

The real problem here is that nothing else could ever be as useful as waterwalking. Imagine leveling a mage or warrior or whatever without waterwalking, that would totally suck. No-daze would be useful, but you can get that elsewhere, switch to tank spec or use a 300g consumable. So I plan on keeping waterwalking on every non-DK/shaman character 100% of the time. I won't even remove it when I get flying, because the flying equipment is useless.

Actually I'll probably use it on the shaman too, because that class can't cast waterwalking while already mounted.

[Echeyakee]

Never understood the reasoning that strider was the only mount worth using. I liked specialized mounts. I have my strider for when I need to cross a body of water, and my vendor/repair mount, my lvl 1-20 chopper, and a two-seater flyer for back when we had flying. Felt like I've accumulated an array of useful tools over the years of playing. I would never use them regularly, but they were there, on a sidebar, for when I need them.

PS, this whole argument would not have happened if flying was not held hostage.

[Schizoide]

I have an addon that randomly picks through all my appropriate (ie, ground) mounts and use that by default, and a separate keybind for the waterstrider myself. But there are absolutely a ton of people who only use a waterstrider as their ground mount. That's what the devs are trying to fix.

I don't think they picked a very interesting way to do it, because like I said earlier I'll just use the waterwalking equipment all the time, but it does indeed fix that problem.