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    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    Purposefully misses the point and tries to misdirect.
    No offense, but the point is silly and puerile. So it totally deserves a misdirect.

    It's always laughable when some folks cry about faction bias and then cherry pick their data to fit their narrative. I main Horde and there are plenty of things that Alliance get that Horde don't and that I want.

    If you're just talking about mounts, there are plenty of Alliance mounts that I would like but don't get to have because they're Alliance only. Hell I paid 10M gold to get a decent tiger mount from the BMAH the other day, yet Alliance get a whole range of them practically for free.

    Maybe try appreciating the things you have instead of being bitter about the things you don't have. Better yet, nothing stops you from playing the other faction so that you can actually see for yourself that Horde has its own shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    Horde gets a huge collection of unique items and the best racials in the game.
    Oh you mean the toys you get when picking one of two choices? Ah yeah, they are just as boring as 7 year old gryphon models.
    And for the racials: You didn't watch MDI right? Shadow Mend is basically the most op racial for mythic+, besides that, arcane torrent got nerfed to the ground. Furthermore, Dwarf are considered the best tanks for mythic+ aswell, because of their racial they can simply ignore the necrotic wound debuff

    Alliance lost Varian and get generic Anduin...Alliance gets more horses and gryphons.
    Horde lost Vol'jin (Warchief who didn't do anything at all) and gets Garrosh 2.0

    Horde gets multiple allied races with rich backgrounds that were explored in Legion
    Nightborne are actually an uglier Night elf model. And Highmountain Tauren are just Tauren with different horns, they don't even have different beards or anything like that, their story is just as much stuffed into the game like the Void Elves.

    Alliance gets Dark Irons, little bit of history but mostly just killed them early on. Kul Tirans...some rich naval history but wasn't really explored in the game much till BfA
    Little bit of history? LUL. You clearly have no clue about the history of the dark iron dwarves at all. Go read wowpedia and see that they are actually responsible for the way 3 of the ingame zones look like they do and molten core a raid.
    Kul'Tirans are horseshit I give you that, but you don't deserve it else because of Undercity

    You clearly don't have any clue about game mechanics nor about the World of Warcraft Lore. Please go and read some knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    The Horde gets shit on in the story by the writers so as compensation they get better mounts. Alliance doesn't get to have everything. Maybe when the Alliance gets a proper villain and isn't just seen as the big awesome heroes(despite the fucked up things they're done in the lore), then they'll get awesome mounts. Until then, enjoy gryphons and horses.

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    There really isn't a lot of history on mag'har aside from "this is what orcs were before they drank demon blood". Dark Irons have A LOT of history in the game. Kul Tirans may not have been a big part of WoW but they're a huge part of Warcraft lore as a whole. The draenei have a really expansive background as well with the Lightforged being explored the entire tail end of Legion. I feel like you're just disregarding various parts about the lore just so you can whine.
    Not a lot of history....they only had most of a expansion being in the spotlight, as opposed to a dungeon for the Dark Irons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transhumanism View Post
    Oh you mean the toys you get when picking one of two choices? Ah yeah, they are just as boring as 7 year old gryphon models.
    And for the racials: You didn't watch MDI right? Shadow Mend is basically the most op racial for mythic+, besides that, arcane torrent got nerfed to the ground. Furthermore, Dwarf are considered the best tanks for mythic+ aswell, because of their racial they can simply ignore the necrotic wound debuff


    Horde lost Vol'jin (Warchief who didn't do anything at all) and gets Garrosh 2.0


    Nightborne are actually an uglier Night elf model. And Highmountain Tauren are just Tauren with different horns, they don't even have different beards or anything like that, their story is just as much stuffed into the game like the Void Elves.


    Little bit of history? LUL. You clearly have no clue about the history of the dark iron dwarves at all. Go read wowpedia and see that they are actually responsible for the way 3 of the ingame zones look like they do and molten core a raid.
    Kul'Tirans are horseshit I give you that, but you don't deserve it else because of Undercity

    You clearly don't have any clue about game mechanics nor about the World of Warcraft Lore. Please go and read some knowledge
    You tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about and you quote so much wrong in the process. You're hilarious!

    You don't even know fucking basic mechanics of the game, Shadow Mend is Disc/Shadow ability, not a racial.

    If people are so worried about tanking then why the fuck does every top raiding guild go Horde pretty much?

    Void Elves are just pale Blood Elfs (Not a lot of people find pale sexy, especially compared to the very fair skin tones of Belves)....Lightforged are just are just recollored Draenei.

    Mag'har Orcs had a full expansion full of zones and story...

    You really have no idea what you're talking about.
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    As well as annoyed, I'm relieved. Means I can save the gold for other things.
    Can't STAND the way that the wings on the MoP Gryphons animate. Have the model designers never actually studied wings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    No offense, but the point is silly and puerile. So it totally deserves a misdirect.

    It's always laughable when some folks cry about faction bias and then cherry pick their data to fit their narrative. I main Horde and there are plenty of things that Alliance get that Horde don't and that I want.

    If you're just talking about mounts, there are plenty of Alliance mounts that I would like but don't get to have because they're Alliance only. Hell I paid 10M gold to get a decent tiger mount from the BMAH the other day, yet Alliance get a whole range of them practically for free.

    Maybe try appreciating the things you have instead of being bitter about the things you don't have. Better yet, nothing stops you from playing the other faction so that you can actually see for yourself that Horde has its own shortcomings.
    Why would you pay 10m gold for a tiger mount on the BMAH when you can get like four for next to nothing via MoP rep?

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    Seriously, look at that bigass crease on its origami wings! When have you ever seen a bird hold its wings like that? There's massive chunks of wing sticking up randomly for no reason at all too. What even is that wing lump on the top? . How did anyone at Blizz EVER think this looked good. And now they're offering it with no fixes 7 years later? this is bad comedy.
    When you fly or run on it it somehow looks worse. Bits of wing seem to just be doing their own thing lol.



    Elder Scrolls gryphon just for comparison..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    If you're just talking about mounts, there are plenty of Alliance mounts that I would like but don't get to have because they're Alliance only. Hell I paid 10M gold to get a decent tiger mount from the BMAH the other day, yet Alliance get a whole range of them practically for free.
    The mounts on both sides are different, there have always been mounts available to only that faction, but Blizz has in the past tried to balance the work on each faction and what was available to players. The ZG Tiger was the only tiger horde could get but the ZG raptor was the only raptor Alliance could get. When they add more tigers in mop, they added more raptors too.

    Blizzard have OBJECTIVELY put considerably less effort into Alliance mounts in this expansion. The Horde have different mount for each faction all with new models, and now BAF mounts for flying including a specral mount. They even have an extra mount and a whole quest chain for one of the pterodax mounts.

    Alliance have the same horse model for everything (none of the saddles are even new assets) and the same 7 year old gryphon for all the flying mounts. It's just a pisstake at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    Not a lot of history....they only had most of a expansion being in the spotlight, as opposed to a dungeon for the Dark Irons...

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    You tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about and you quote so much wrong in the process. You're hilarious!

    You don't even know fucking basic mechanics of the game, Shadow Mend is Disc/Shadow ability, not a racial.

    If people are so worried about tanking then why the fuck does every top raiding guild go Horde pretty much?

    Void Elves are just pale Blood Elfs (Not a lot of people find pale sexy, especially compared to the very fair skin tones of Belves)....Lightforged are just are just recollored Draenei.

    Mag'har Orcs had a full expansion full of zones and story...

    You really have no idea what you're talking about.
    Ah yeah it is called Shadow Meld not Shadow mend sorry. But the fact you didn't think about that before writing that post actually proves that you don't have a clue about what I mean at all.
    Second I clearly said that the dwarf racial is op for mythic+ and not raiding.
    If the horde racials are really op in terms of damage output or whatsoever I want you to show me statistics that prove this.
    Oh yeah Mag'har had an expansion, just like the draenei had. And it was the worst, everybody was complaining about time traveling bs and now you lay it out as an expansion with awesome story just to fit your narrative. Smells like Strawman for me.

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    Pity, I'd buy the blue armored gryphon of Stormsong, guess not.

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    Yeah, the HD model that not many has... Just don't buy it? The trolls got a reused model too - woohoo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Aren't prices often absolutely fucked up during PTR? If this is the intended price, I agree that it is a ridiculous price.
    Yes, but they often stay fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    Not a lot of history....they only had most of a expansion being in the spotlight, as opposed to a dungeon for the Dark Irons...

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    You tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about and you quote so much wrong in the process. You're hilarious!

    You don't even know fucking basic mechanics of the game, Shadow Mend is Disc/Shadow ability, not a racial.

    If people are so worried about tanking then why the fuck does every top raiding guild go Horde pretty much?

    Void Elves are just pale Blood Elfs (Not a lot of people find pale sexy, especially compared to the very fair skin tones of Belves)....Lightforged are just are just recollored Draenei.

    Mag'har Orcs had a full expansion full of zones and story...

    You really have no idea what you're talking about.
    They clearly meant Shadow Meld, the night elf racial, which is OP as fuck. Also, Mag'har got as much story in WoD as the draenei did. When it comes to them being an allied race, they're pretty much as simple as brown-skinned orcs. If you know orc history, you know mag'har history. Just because they were all over WoD doesn't mean they were suddenly more in depth as a race.

    As for Lightforged, if you think they're just recolored draenei and nothing more then you blatantly didn't pay attention to the tail end of Legion. They're much more in depth than just a recolor. I think you're just grasping at straws to try and make the game look like there is a Horde bias, which is LAUGHABLE after this expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    You'd literally be happy with a piece of poo with a saddle on it
    Well, I know you like to shit on everything in the game (and call it critical thinking) while accusing others (with a different opinion) of being white knights and fanbois, but yeah.....gotta give you this, it is an awesome idea. A pile of shit with a saddle on it? People will not only pay 350k at a vendor but even 25$ in the shop.

    It is honestly a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Yeah, the HD model that not many has... Just don't buy it? The trolls got a reused model too - woohoo?
    At 50K it is still a bargain if you lack a couple of mounts to 350 or so - hey...a frog mount is 6+ times as expensive...

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    50k is a little steep.

    i wasn't too keen on spending 10k on the rep mounts from BfA launch, but i did.

    i have to agree with the gripe here, 50k for a re colored MoP mount...eesh...
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    Imagine being so poor you think 50k is a lot of gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    No offense, but the point is silly and puerile. So it totally deserves a misdirect.

    It's always laughable when some folks cry about faction bias and then cherry pick their data to fit their narrative. I main Horde and there are plenty of things that Alliance get that Horde don't and that I want.

    If you're just talking about mounts, there are plenty of Alliance mounts that I would like but don't get to have because they're Alliance only. Hell I paid 10M gold to get a decent tiger mount from the BMAH the other day, yet Alliance get a whole range of them practically for free.

    Maybe try appreciating the things you have instead of being bitter about the things you don't have. Better yet, nothing stops you from playing the other faction so that you can actually see for yourself that Horde has its own shortcomings.
    "B-b-b-but I want Tiger Mounts!" isn't the argument being made here.

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    imagine playing a game so much you think 50k is nothing.
    I had fun once, it was terrible.

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    50k is literally pennies though - that’s nothing.

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    50k is for unique models or craft mounts. 50k is too much! For a old model.

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    I like Blizzard trolling on those mounts. You don't like horses? Take exactly the same gryphons, with slightly different colors on the armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Well, I know you like to shit on everything in the game (and call it critical thinking) while accusing others (with a different opinion) of being white knights and fanbois, but yeah.....gotta give you this, it is an awesome idea. A pile of shit with a saddle on it? People will not only pay 350k at a vendor but even 25$ in the shop.

    It is honestly a great idea.

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    At 50K it is still a bargain if you lack a couple of mounts to 350 or so - hey...a frog mount is 6+ times as expensive...
    Nah man. There are several people on here who enjoy the game but don't try to make excuses for all its glaring issues. Do I call those people White Knights? No.


    What I take issue with is people like you and many others who will literally excuse anything and everything Blizzard does. You don't have a critical thought in your brain.

    We'll call it the "State of the game mount". Maybe we could bundle it with an suit of white armour for you.

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