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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Or do people think there will be some form of Porn Police driving around in a car with tits for the sirens, and busting into peoples houses catching kids wanking on their PC without a permit?
    Well I would love to see something like this xD

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i thought it was illegal everywhere for minors to be shown porn?

    there's no way to actually enforce that in the US, despite it being the law. but the UK lacks the privacy guarantees that the US has, so i'm sure they'll happily walk over their people's rights to do it.

    but it is strange though, how the more left leaning the ideologue, the more puritanical they become. ban porn, women must be basically in burkas in video games, women must be ugly in games.
    *snortles loudly*

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    Kids will start sharing USB drives or clouds with porn content.

    The porn black market reaches all ages.

    Although I do agree with the ban. A child of 3-10 should not have access to porn.
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  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Tabrotar View Post
    Bcs it´s just fucking nake dpeople having sex ffs, don´t you get it. Where are the health issues arrising with seing nake dpeople having sex hm?
    The myriad of mental health and esteem issues that develop into long term psychological issues from unfettered access to hardcore pornography are already well documented. Use Google and educate yourself.

    This isn;t banning. This is enforcing the already existing age restriction. Try and keep up, I know it is hard us using big words and all, but please try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collegeguy View Post
    Don't see it going that way smoothly. There is more porn websites than news and ect. Many different countries, many small start-ups, and many of them getting revenue by only ads and not credit card services. It wouldn't be as beneficial or even concerned as you think to follow the UK law. Many would just ignore it, wait to see it overturned, or just say fine block us. If they are not taking credit cards, what can the UK do? Pretty much nothing but force ISP's to search and block. Media sharing though? Nah sorry, UK is not extraditing people that don't have the same law in their country.
    Then no-one gets extradited. Not sure why you are making such strawman's here and trying to escalate the situation into more than it is. If the porn sites decide not to cooperate, then the ISP will recieve a court order to blanket ban them from that ISP. Whether that remains profitable for them or not, is up to them. Quite simple, really.

    Again, as I said, people are *really* overthinking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themerlin View Post
    Kids will start sharing USB drives or clouds with porn content.

    The porn black market reaches all ages.

    Although I do agree with the ban. A child of 3-10 should not have access to porn.
    Amusingly enough, the "Mah freedomz brigade" seem to suggest otherwise at times.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    The myriad of mental health and esteem issues that develop into long term psychological issues from unfettered access to hardcore pornography are already well documented. Use Google and educate yourself.

    This isn;t banning. This is enforcing the already existing age restriction. Try and keep up, I know it is hard us using big words and all, but please try.

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    Then no-one gets extradited. Not sure why you are making such strawman's here and trying to escalate the situation into more than it is. If the porn sites decide not to cooperate, then the ISP will recieve a court order to blanket ban them from that ISP. Whether that remains profitable for them or not, is up to them. Quite simple, really.

    Again, as I said, people are *really* overthinking it.

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    Amusingly enough, the "Mah freedomz brigade" seem to suggest otherwise at times.
    The issue with this research is confirmation bias. I clicked Wikipedia and this is the first part about methodology there:
    Issues with research
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    Within the field of pornography research, there are many challenges that arise due to strong opinions and feelings on the topic. Confirmation bias is prevalent due to societal taboos surrounding pornography. While many studies hypothesize about and study negative effects of pornography, few researchers explore potential benefits or positive aspects of pornography. A large percentage of studies suffer from methodological issues. In one meta-study by researchers at Middlesex University in England, over 40,000 papers and articles were submitted to the team for review and 276 or 0.69% were suitable for consideration due to the low quality of research within the field.
    Too much of this research is tied to biased religious ideas. Hell the first link on googling it was maripedia which seems to be site promoting religion. Good luck finding good unbiased studies on this.

    Personally I think there's absolutely no reason to ban pornography to those above age of consent which is 16 commonly. Being able to have sex but not watch it is just fucking ridiculous. You could suggest it gives unrealistic expectations to people, but why does this shit apply only to porn and not other things such as movies. Clearly Harry Potter, and other fantasy movies should be for adults as well since they can't tell the difference. Sarcasm aside , schools should teach sexual education properly rather than avoiding the issue, porn included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Amusingly enough, the "Mah freedomz brigade" seem to suggest otherwise at times.
    Sorry, but just no. This is absolute bullshit.

    None of us are suggesting that children should have access to this material. What we are saying is that it should be for to the parents and schools to, oh I don't know?, do their fucking jobs and protect their kids.

    The state shouldn't be forcing ISPs to block stuff simply because the parents are braindead morons who don't monitor their children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollis View Post
    Sorry, but just no. This is absolute bullshit.

    None of us are suggesting that children should have access to this material. What we are saying is that it should be for to the parents and schools to, oh I don't know?, do their fucking jobs and protect their kids.

    The state shouldn't be forcing ISPs to block stuff simply because the parents are braindead morons who don't monitor their children.
    Except they are.
    And they have had unfettered access for 20 years or so, and nothing has been done. Or do you want them to wait another 50 years? And yes, some people here *are* suggesting that all material should be available because, ya know, it's only nekkid bodies.

    Such a silly argument tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc54 View Post
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    Sure, there is bias, but again, this is a moot point right now.
    The main discussion point is that the content is age restricted to 18, yet people under 18 have totally unrestricted access to it. Not sure where people are ranting about it the other way tbh.

    As for the age of 16 thing? I agree utterly. You can join the army in the UK at 16 (with parental permission), get married, have kids. Yet aren;t old enough to smoke, watch porn and drink, or vote for the country you can die for? That is ludicrous, but the law is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    And they have had unfettered access for 20 years or so, and nothing has been done. Or do you want them to wait another 50 years?
    Teach the fucking parents to do their jobs; parenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollis View Post
    Teach the fucking parents to do their jobs; parenting.
    Except they don't.
    Again, this isn;t punishing people, this is just enforcing an already existing law and making companies not be able to skirt around it with bullshit, and be actually cukpable for the product they are providing.

    Not sure how that can be explained any other way. ANyways, not going to reply anymore, because it is a fruitless and pointless debate, it will just go around and around and around.

    The law is coming, and if you don't live in the UK, and aren't under 18, it literally will not affect you beyond minor inconvenience. But people love to be paranoid, and find outrage I guess.

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Stands in the Fire View Post
    It's for under 18 people only.
    This is naive thinking. The goal is to prevent people under 18 from getting to these sites. However this affects everyone who wishes to view porn. You think people are going to willingly give their private info to be stored in a location that will most definitely be hacked and be released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Except they don't.
    Again, this isn;t punishing people, this is just enforcing an already existing law and making companies not be able to skirt around it with bullshit, and be actually cukpable for the product they are providing.

    Not sure how that can be explained any other way. ANyways, not going to reply anymore, because it is a fruitless and pointless debate, it will just go around and around and around.

    The law is coming, and if you don't live in the UK, and aren't under 18, it literally will not affect you beyond minor inconvenience. But people love to be paranoid, and find outrage I guess.
    See point above.
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    We'll all have to use our imagination then or get a sexually active partner..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Except they are.
    And they have had unfettered access for 20 years or so, and nothing has been done. Or do you want them to wait another 50 years? And yes, some people here *are* suggesting that all material should be available because, ya know, it's only nekkid bodies.

    Such a silly argument tbh.

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    Sure, there is bias, but again, this is a moot point right now.
    The main discussion point is that the content is age restricted to 18, yet people under 18 have totally unrestricted access to it. Not sure where people are ranting about it the other way tbh.

    As for the age of 16 thing? I agree utterly. You can join the army in the UK at 16 (with parental permission), get married, have kids. Yet aren;t old enough to smoke, watch porn and drink, or vote for the country you can die for? That is ludicrous, but the law is what it is.
    Do you really think bias doesn't exist? Are you smarter than wikipedia?

    Alos, show me where someone said 8 years olds should have access to porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    The myriad of mental health and esteem issues that develop into long term psychological issues from unfettered access to hardcore pornography are already well documented. Use Google and educate yourself.
    It's also well documented that humans are herbivores with a myriad of evidence. You should Google it and educate yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Except they don't.
    Again, this isn;t punishing people, this is just enforcing an already existing law and making companies not be able to skirt around it with bullshit, and be actually cukpable for the product they are providing.

    Not sure how that can be explained any other way. ANyways, not going to reply anymore, because it is a fruitless and pointless debate, it will just go around and around and around.

    The law is coming, and if you don't live in the UK, and aren't under 18, it literally will not affect you beyond minor inconvenience. But people love to be paranoid, and find outrage I guess.
    jesus christ, the amount of times you’ve felt compelled to say “it’s just enforcing an existing law” is astounding. literally nobody does not understand this and you just keep parroting it like you’re providing some sort of interesting insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post

    Amusingly enough, the "Mah freedomz brigade" seem to suggest otherwise at times.
    Well they are insane.

    Children that are not sexually mature yet should not watch pornographic content.

    It warps their perception of intimacy and sex.
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    Preventing kids under 15/16 from watching that kind of stuff is probably a good thing. But I would like to point out that if someone under the age of 18 really wants to watch porn that badly they will either find a way around it, cause kids always do, or they will simply have someone go to the newsagent and buy a pass for them. also, how rigorous are the questions for those in the database (which I presume they are getting from the UK version of the DMV)? will they ask some sort of secret question? or a pin? if it's a question then all you need is an older sibling who will give you the answer.

    I am not sure if they answered this in the article as I couldn't read it

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    Pornhub have launched project to save the bees!

    Britain hates bees! Everyone boo that country!

    Boo! Booo! Boooooooo!

    that should teach them..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    Protected from what exactly?
    If I have to explain to you how porn is not good for children, then we have no business talking to each other.

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    So easy to get around. Good God this is sad.

    Bunch of old people in parliament think they can stop kids from watching porn. Might as well try to outlaw the sun, or the wind.

    One or two extra steps is all this is adding if a kid wants to do this. Old people really don't get how easily kids who've grown up with the internet can sail around this.
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