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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Yes, it includes more than that. But it includes it.

    It is the subject here because it is included in the ban. It's not a 'strawman' or whatever the fuck that is. It's a fact.
    Soooo... screen all porn and only ban the really hardcore stuff?

    I mean, I've seen people go down some idiotic roads just to stand their ground and not learn but you're a special kind. Just accept that what I'm saying is smarter than what you're saying and move on already. This is getting ridiculous.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
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  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Freshouttajail View Post
    Soooo... screen all porn and only ban the really hardcore stuff?

    I mean, I've seen people go down some idiotic roads just to stand their ground and not learn but you're a special kind. Just accept that what I'm saying is smarter than what you're saying and move on already. This is getting ridiculous.
    Imagine a law where EVERY crime's punishment is death.

    I'm saying "I don't think petty crimes should be punished by death."
    You're saying "LMAO dumbass you're wrong, this law isn't about petty crimes, it's about all crimes. Your opinion is wrong lmao."

    You're welcome.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Imagine a law where EVERY crime's punishment is death.

    I'm saying "I don't think petty crimes should be punished by death."
    You're saying "LMAO dumbass you're wrong, this law isn't about petty crimes, it's about all crimes. Your opinion is wrong lmao."

    You're welcome.
    Of course there's different levels to it but just be realistic for a minute. How the fuck can they filter out the "evil porn" from the "okay porn"?

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Freshouttajail View Post
    Of course there's different levels to it but just be realistic for a minute. How the fuck can they filter out the "evil porn" from the "okay porn"?
    I don't care how they do it and that's irrelevant.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    I don't care how they do it and that's irrelevant.
    What's irrelevant is your opinion on things that can't be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    And clearly, parents are responsible those days xD
    Unless there's molestation or abuse, government should never have any right to get involved in personal family affairs.
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  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Musik-Diversity86 View Post
    None of what you said I argued against though. I already agreed that a ban is useless because kids in this world WILL find a way. I didn't say anything about porn having such a terrible effect on kids 100%. I stated that sex isn't to be seen as something as casual as watching a movie with your family. There is a line there that shouldn't be crossed and a discussion about something as serious as sex from parents to kids helps better than a stupid ban

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    Ok, for a minute there I thought you actually believed sex is just "humans watching humans"
    Who is saying that sex and porn is equal to watching a movie with the family???

  10. #190
    No free speech in UK ✔
    Blocking porn in UK (under 18's) ✔

    I'm honestly curious what's next.

  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    There's no evidence to prove that it's not. Maybe not at pre puberty ages but beyond that i'm pretty sure they're being taught that stuff in the classroom.
    There's actually a lot of evidence to support that claim. There are hundreds of studies published that thoroughly explain how destructive the abuse of pornographic material can be, especially at a tender age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    enforcing a ban on plain naked bodies is stupid
    There is no ban and the law isn't againt naked bodies to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steristumpie View Post
    Ye. Better let a group of strangers do what parents should be doing.
    You have the mentality of a person stuck in the Golden Age of a nuclear family with clear distinct roles for each member.

    The reality is, most parents these days are gone for 8-16 hours/day to make a living for the household, in the meantime the children are either at home or a school of some sorts that has taken the liberty and responsibility to take care of them.

    In order to survive "normally" in this modern society of ours, parents just don't have the time or energy to fulfill their past traditional roles within the family. Its all rushed and hurried with the best intentions like usual.

    Pornography can't necessarily be controlled in the household either. Your kids know everything, they will get into your passwords, your phones, etc

    I support this ban 100%
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    UK getting closer and closer to the murica level autism, yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themerlin View Post
    Your kids know everything, they will get into your passwords, your phones, etc
    So they can do all that, but they can't VPN, TOR / ONION or IRC just to get it anyway?

    Youre right, this isnt the 50's ... this is some weird puritan satanic panic era shit. Anyway, to be frank, I dont really give a squirt of cum if they ban it for you, censor, restrict or whatever the fuck. My country is untouched by your shenanigans as it always is and has been since the early nineties. Keep it that way. Here we raise our kids right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steristumpie View Post
    So they can do all that, but they can't VPN, TOR / ONION or IRC just to get it anyway?

    Youre right, this isnt the 50's ... this is some weird puritan satanic panic era shit. Anyway, to be frank, I dont really give a squirt of cum if they ban it for you, censor, restrict or whatever the fuck. My country is untouched by your shenanigans as it always is and has been since the early nineties. Keep it that way. Here we raise our kids right.
    Lol your country is untouched?!

    I very much doubt that.

    "Here we raise our kids right" reminds me of what evangelical communities say about public education, which is why we have this billionaire sycophant in charge of education in the US.



    I assume your community is isolated and does not in any manner represent the majority of communities in S Africa.

    South Africa has a high dropout rate due to reasons of poor academic performance, teen pregnancy and crime.

    Geez Afrikans are just as annoying as the Evangelical communities here in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    There's actually a lot of evidence to support that claim. There are hundreds of studies published that thoroughly explain how destructive the abuse of pornographic material can be, especially at a tender age.
    Tell me who are those studies funded by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themerlin View Post

    I assume your community is isolated and does not in any manner represent the majority of communities in S Africa.

    South Africa has a high dropout rate due to reasons of poor academic performance, teen pregnancy and crime.
    1. I live in one of the largest cities in the country. So no, its not some gated community, I would imagine I am pretty representative.
    2. My high school was the second largest in the city, and we've had a 100% matric pass rate for many years and 1 teen pregnancy that I can remember (and she finished her final exams and passed anyway).

    and 3.

    Your terminology or spelling aptitude might be a bit fucked. Did you mean to spell it Africans? (in which case youre just a racist asshole) Or did you mean to spell Afrikaners? (the white minority, in which case you're just a racist asshole).
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  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by Freshouttajail View Post
    What's irrelevant is your opinion on things that can't be done.
    Good thing that's not part of my argument, then, or that would be embarrassing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    There is no ban and the law isn't againt naked bodies to begin with.
    There is a ban for certain individuals, and the new law is about porn, which most often, nudity is considered.

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Who? People who weren't actually old enough to be viewing the stuff within the country they live in, in the first place?

    That isn't a ban, mate.
    What is it then?

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    An enforcement of an already existing law, which has been pretty much ignored by the companies responsible until now. Not sure how many times I have to keep repeating it with all honesty.

    Your lack of understanding, or wilful ignorance doesn't change this immutable fact whatsoever.
    So they aren't allowed to do something, but it's not banned? How does that make sense? If one is not allowed to purchase, say, a gun, wouldn't it mean they have been banned from said action?

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