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  1. #21
    This matters why?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Cmon guys. Release date has to be imminent.
    End of June early july for 8.2, puts classic at probably late Aug early Sep. to make the "summer" deadline easy.

    They're not going to overlap the two, that wouldn't spread out extra subs.

  3. #23
    I can't wait for the moment people realize that Classic servers won't give them the sense of magic and fulfillment they got on release.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    I can't wait for the moment people realize that Classic servers won't give them the sense of magic and fulfillment they got on release.
    This. You can't go back. Classic servers will be ghost towns in 4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    I can't wait for the moment people realize that Classic servers won't give them the sense of magic and fulfillment they got on release.
    Can't wait for the moment BfA trolls realize people have different taste in games, and Classic servers are as popular as BfA servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavox View Post
    This. You can't go back. Classic servers will be ghost towns in 4 months.
    Blizzard disagrees with you:

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-big-questions

    Are you expecting players to come back to vanilla WOW and properly invest in that game, or just have a look around for nostalgia's sake?

    J. Allen Brack:
    Both, I think. One of the things we do know is that by announcing this, we're in the WOW Classic business forever. Once that starts, there's a commitment on our end that we're going to continue maintaining those servers for as long as there is a World of Warcraft. I think there will be people that come and do the nostalgia trip, they go to the Barrens and find Mankrik's wife, and then they're done. That's fine. Some amount of people, however, are going to create a new Classic community and that's what we'll be providing.

    Those people don't just want the old gameplay features, they want the constant social connection. And so we can't just support it for a couple of months and then if it's not working out, ditch it. There has to be an assurance that you can build this character, build this guild, build these friendships, and the server will continue.
    Push it to the limit

    #NoCollusion
    "The Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple. offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."

  6. #26
    can't wait!

    probably won't play it for a long time, but that's fine.

  7. #27
    Been there, done that. Ppl i know started playing wow when they were 16-19, they are now 30+, who got 9h per day to play a game these days Oo? Retail > Classic always

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    Hey ATVI apologists, go away to your QoL wonderland of BFA, and let me enjoy a proper MMORPG.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimalkin of Old View Post
    Hey ATVI apologists, go away to your QoL wonderland of BFA, and let me enjoy a proper MMORPG.
    We will.

    Ah, and please, don’t log back to retail, ever, so that Blizzard can continue development without having to care about nerdies with 5 hours a day to play anymore.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    You got it backwards. One great thing about Classic is you don't play latest patch, there are no dailies, there is no fake progression at max level, so you can play at your own pace. It is much more casual friendly than retail. Classic proper MMORPG > Retail achievement/collections gathering emulator with few remaining RPG elements.
    Exactly, I've been playing on one of those hmm servers the last 4 months and I've enjoyed that a hell of a lot more than the last 6 years of retail. I can't wait for progression to actually mean something, funny how a drop of a green item can make your day, or the creation of an item through your profession (you do know professions right ? Its that thing that has been a mess for years and years!) can make your enjoyment that much better. Bring on Classic I've been waiting for it since it's announcement.

  11. #31
    It is happening guys!

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    Only Blizzard could ever take so long to release a beta of a replica of a product they released years ago.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Nokonda View Post
    Only Blizzard could ever take so long to release a beta of a replica of a product they released years ago.
    I can't understand it either. Even IF you needed to adjust the game engine to 2019 standards/systems/drivers/libraries it shouldn't take more than few (2-3) months for a qualified game dev studio. It seems like generating fake hype or delaying as much as they can, because they don't want to divide the playerbase further between retail and classic.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavox View Post
    I can't understand it either.
    Only software developers will understand. Back then it was a stand alone program running on Windows XP and installed from CD, since then things have moved on... the delivery of content, bug fixes, the way you sign on, the hardware and OS you run it on.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavox View Post
    I can't understand it either. Even IF you needed to adjust the game engine to 2019 standards/systems/drivers/libraries it shouldn't take more than few (2-3) months for a qualified game dev studio. It seems like generating fake hype or delaying as much as they can, because they don't want to divide the playerbase further between retail and classic.
    Because they're not just rereleasing classic as it was, they're rebuilding classic on the modern engine. They don't have a lot of assets and some stuff they're building entirely off videos and reports from back in the day. And it's not a huge dev team like retail

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Only software developers will understand. Back then it was a stand alone program running on Windows XP and installed from CD, since then things have moved on... the delivery of content, bug fixes, the way you sign on, the hardware and OS you run it on.
    I'm an IT engineer (not a software developer mind you) and I still say it's delay tactics. They have a 2005/6 build - just make it work on newer OS + bug fixes (which they know how to fix by now). Modders do shit like this all the time, not to mention gog.com. I don't believe they needed 18 months of development time to release classic. You could've make a new game in that time with resources Blizzard has. I understand the team is smaller, but still - they HAVE the build and the assets.
    Last edited by Cavox; 2019-04-18 at 07:20 AM.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Because they're not just rereleasing classic as it was, they're rebuilding classic on the modern engine. They don't have a lot of assets and some stuff they're building entirely off videos and reports from back in the day. And it's not a huge dev team like retail
    You are living in a dream world. They have all the assets, effects and data/scripts. Because otherwise they would not be able to defend their IP if someone starts to use them like copy/paste from the Classic client into a new game...

    There are so many simple Jacks out there.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by dhru2 View Post
    You are living in a dream world. They have all the assets, effects and data/scripts. Because otherwise they would not be able to defend their IP if someone starts to use them like copy/paste from the Classic client into a new game...

    There are so many simple Jacks out there.
    An yes they're just lying to everyone including investors about it, and you call me a "simple jack"

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by BoltBlaster View Post
    No, there are too many wannabe armchair developer kids with no real experience.

    You don't know how complex their system is, if data can be changed from old format to new format, how many tweaks to modern client need to be done to make it work with old data, what it takes to make new engine emulate old rules. I'm sure it is very complex.

    They actually did some presentation a while ago showing how different data is and explaining why it can't be automated. When things can't be automated due to engines being completely incompatible, they require massive amounts of manual labor to test and tweak everything.
    Yeah, they showed how poorly a lot of things were done back in the day. We have to remember that vanilla was made by a bunch of amatuers doing their first MMO ever, it was a mess

  20. #40
    To all the people that claim it shouldn't take so long blablabla. Look at their 2018 Blizzcon Classic panels, its really complicated.
    Also, they have switched from Legion core to BFA core with the latest builds.

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