Originally Posted by
ravenmoon
I'm sure most of you have seen this a while now, but please tell me how on the one hand, blizzard can write some really good stories as individual pieces, and at the next moment, just savage their entire work by either poor or unnecessary retcons or completely ignoring elements from their previous story that athey had built up and focused on. Set up an interesting vast and diverse world, with really cool stuff, but not bother to make it hold up in integrity across multiple platforms adneven in time as they progress their story with expansions.. ALL the former info is there and the people who wrote it still alive. what is going on?
Remember how tiny a role Sylvanas played in WotLK against Arthas who was supposed to be the reason or her revenge, yet Garrosh and Thrall were all over it.. iw as like wtf are they doing there, does blizzard even remember how much this means to her.
The also minute role the blood elves played too, - as if they didn't care that this was important.
They did it in TBC ofc, remember how in TFT, the night elves, Malfurion/Tyrnade were all involved with stopping Arthas and Illidan etc, yet come TBC that continues the story - poof - vanished (okay Malfurion had an excuse), but Tyrande? Night elves only showed up when the Cenarion circle was doing business, so they obviously remembered to include druids, but no night elf relevance.
Do you remember how Thrall was awol in the siege of the city he founded, with his horde threatened, but had some lame excuse of being shattered by killing Garrosh - at least they gave him the excuse.
Do you remember how humans played a larger role the alliance efforts in WoD than the freaking Draenei themselves, how your Garrison was human instead of Draenei.. but that wasn't that bad.
Come Legion, notice how the Darnassian Kaldorei who have this major beef with the legion, do nothing against them directly. Tyrande is off chsing malfurion in Val'sharh who is concerned about the nightmare, and that's it. She leaves him at the end to uphold her oath to her goddess defending her temple and lands, but is completely absent along with her order when the attack on the Tomb of Sargeras their most holy temple begins - instead the class orders kick in, but somehow blizzard finds it difficult to have the Order of Elune working with or directing the class orders or the adventurer.
Neither are they present in the final assault against the legion alongside the Draenei on the vindicaar - you'd think with Illidan returned, they'd be massive interaction.
ABsent most ofthem arein Suramar too, where most of them come from. initially they had Vereessa doing the alliance stuff which was fine, but could easily have had the Order of leune leading the other kaldorei on their own separate thing.
Now get to BFA, and we finally go to Naz'jatar, to fight Azshara, the night elf queen who started it off, none of the night elves are there save Shandris in any major way.. as if they forgotten all their previous work, like what we read in WotA, that had Tyrande so set up as the opposite and nemsis of Azshara, Malfurion who foils her plans, and was all about stopping her evil plans for both their people and the world. Or even Farondis who is set up in 7.0 against Azshara major time.
How am I suppose to enjoy the lore, if I read all these things, buy all those stupid books, get immersed in the story they tell, and their is FUCK ALL continuity when it matters. They'd rather throw completely unrelated people like JAINA having a starring role rather than Tyrande or Malfurion or Farondis, that the darnassian kaldorei are once again completely missing in their own former capital, cradle of creation from the arcane, and the place they first discerned their goddess..
I mean wtf - it's like none of the previous stuff matters. I don't mind Thrall and garrosh in WotLK, but why do they have more limelight and roles than Sylvannas, the forsaken and the blood elves? I don't begrudge Jaina or Lor'themar being in Naz'jatar, cool, but why do they have more going than the kaldorei and others like Tyrande, Malfurion, Farondis or Evenshade, the Shadowsongs etc aren't there at all - like we haven't had enough of Jaina… it's like leaving Jaina out of Thermaore or out of Kul'tiras.. I mean come on blizz. Great to see stuff and role for Thalyssra - but what about Farondis?
If we are to care about the story , stop retconning un-necessarily, and properly weight current events in a way that is consistent with what you have already released. You start stories and plots, and you just abandon them left right and center. Classic is filled with unfinsiehd stuff 17 years later, no one even knows.. it's RUBBISh -- how do you expect people to care about the whole project when you don't even seem to remember what you write?
It's not just about checking facts of the things you release, I know you have fact checkers, you should have people who point out to you "hey … you're focusing on the wrong people here because you have already set up these other people with the main connection, it looks really bad and disjointed if they're not there"
I'm sorry, but even though the individual stories can sometimes be really good, the overall thing is disjointed and a mess, with little continuity, terrible consistency, and lots of plot holes. not to mention some of the decisions you have made are like..wtf.. does anyone understand conflict or politics here? Or care about consistency?
Disappointed, most of your audience have grown up with wow, and remember the early stuff, we are no longer kids or teens, many of us are in our 20s, 30s and 40s - and you are still selling and declaring as canon your old stuff.
It's just rubbish. you're ruining what could have been a really cool thing, for quick thrills, and most people see through it.
i'm sorry, but Creative writing is SERIOUSLY letting down the project by failing in this aspect. Half of your retcons aren't necessary, evne things yo u have to do for gameplay, could be handled better and made to fit better in a way that enhances and adds to your story rather than hacks it to shreds. I'm no acclaimed writer, I enjoy entertainment, reading, watching etc, but this is really low.. I keep expecting more and more and more, and keep being disappointed.