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  1. #981
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    You'd have to be a sore loser to console yourself that you beat them in tiers where they weren't raiding anywhere near as much as you were.
    So you are saying that the only reason Pieces won this raid was that they raided more than method.
    Last edited by Dranged; 2019-05-03 at 06:14 PM.

  2. #982
    Pieces also had a good start, killing cabal much quicker

  3. #983
    Method has always lost at least 1 raid per expansion

    Cata - Lost to Paragon every single raid. (25m)

    MoP - Lost to Blood Legion in the Heart of fear (25m)

    WoD - Lost to Paragon in Highmaul

    Legion - Lost to Exorsus in EN and Nighthold.

    BFA - Lost to Pieces
    "I feel bad for Limit , they put in so many hours only to come in second place" - Methodjosh

  4. #984
    Quote Originally Posted by styil View Post
    They were resting on their laurels,, racking it in with streams and sponsors, going on lavish holidays when they like mid race and the rest of it. Now it's finally caught up with them.
    Yeah, fuck people having a RL outside of WoW, am I right? Parents have 60s birthday and invited the entire family for vacation? Fuck that! We gotta raid!
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  5. #985
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Nice to se Pieces getting the world first, they deserve it. Worked harder than the others for it.

    Also nice to see Method's fanbase going nuts trying to defend their defeat.
    thats the best part of this outcome ^^

  6. #986
    Quote Originally Posted by pay928 View Post
    That's only true when Method beats NA guilds that stream. Method won because they played the tier better. But if someone beats method it's because they streamed their progress /s.
    Or it's because they're missing a significant amount of their best players, including their GM who went on vacation like 3 days ago. not even really a big method fan, but come on dude, be logical. Add onto the fact that they had to alt-gear a bunch of ranged classes cause melee is trash. Like this entire thing is another blizzard disaster. They time-gated a 2 boss raid until DURING MDI practice and made the last boss a class stacking fiasco.

    With that being said, I'm just happy whenever limit loses, because I really dislike a lot of their attitudes. I hope vodkaz gets NA WF, actually kind cool to see them up high up in the rank again.

  7. #987
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaphaze View Post
    Or it's because they're missing a significant amount of their best players, including their GM who went on vacation like 3 days ago. not even really a big method fan, but come on dude, be logical. Add onto the fact that they had to alt-gear a bunch of ranged classes cause melee is trash. Like this entire thing is another blizzard disaster. They time-gated a 2 boss raid until DURING MDI practice and made the last boss a class stacking fiasco.

    With that being said, I'm just happy whenever limit loses, because I really dislike a lot of their attitudes. I hope vodkaz gets NA WF, actually kind cool to see them up high up in the rank again.
    Tbh not having Sco in the raid is a massive nerf to any encounter, everyone in the high end community knows the only reason he is in there is because the guild is called "Method"

  8. #988
    I'm so happy for Pieces and for the WoW community, change and competition is good. I've watched Method all week and there are no excuses. They had most of their MDI guys the first two nights and then got them back later and some like Gingi don't even have a toon to play for this last boss so it's not like he's missed. Sloppy play with people blowing up is what caused them this race...probably because they were fatigued as well and lost focus, which is understandable.

  9. #989
    How do you know if Pieces didn't have roster issues or fatigue or DC issues or whatever. Thing is they could of had issues of their own we just wouldnt know. Big grats to Pieces.

  10. #990
    Quote Originally Posted by exjay View Post
    How do you know if Pieces didn't have roster issues or fatigue or DC issues or whatever. Thing is they could of had issues of their own we just wouldnt know. Big grats to Pieces.
    In the end all of that doesn't matter and Method knows it. It's just fanboys trying to excuse it. Pieces won, Method lost. Simple as that
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  11. #991
    And method gets the kill

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  13. #993
    Method just killed it

  14. #994
    Method 2/2

    Methodjosh: "That felt like complete trash."

  15. #995
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilz View Post
    Pieces also had to deal with needing to replace players and class stacking. The problems you listed aren't unique to Method. Sco isn't the raid leader btw.

    Also Limit wasn't even competing this tier so why bring them up?
    I didn't say raid leader, I said GM. I bring up limit because they're the usual #2. What do you want me to say? Pieces played better, and it looks like their raid comp was slightly unique compared to the 700 warlocks. I assumed that was obvious. It just gets old coming in here and seeing the anti-method squad constantly brigading against a few method fans.

    None of this really matters in the end though. Blizzard designed a shit boss that's overtuned in a 2 boss raid and timegated it to release it during MDI and a time when most WF guilds usually just have off-time. In a perfect world we'd see more names than method and limit in these races again, but with the game in it's current state, we get to read method fans vs method haters in every single WF thread for the forseeable future. Shit was refreshing to see pieces and vodka both competing, even if this raid was shit thanks to blizzard.

  16. #996
    It's quite a thing to rally back and kill it the day you lost 1st place.

  17. #997
    Both Uldir and Crucible of storms are the only raids in history to have a sub 6 hour difference between world #1 kill and world #2 kill on an end raid boss.
    "I feel bad for Limit , they put in so many hours only to come in second place" - Methodjosh

  18. #998
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaphaze View Post
    They time-gated a 2 boss raid until DURING MDI practice and made the last boss a class stacking fiasco.
    Method made the class stacking fiasco. Pieces didn't class stack much, just went with all caster group.

    And devs probably designed these bosses to offset the MDI melee dominance.

  19. #999
    Quote Originally Posted by Poe View Post
    Both Uldir and Crucible of storms are the only raids in history to have a sub 6 hour difference between world #1 kill and world #2 kill on an end raid boss.
    What was the difference between #1 and #2 in AQ40?

  20. #1000
    Quote Originally Posted by exjay View Post
    How do you know if Pieces didn't have roster issues or fatigue or DC issues or whatever. Thing is they could of had issues of their own we just wouldnt know. Big grats to Pieces.
    I don't, that's the point. I assume every guild did. No one expected a random 2 boss raid timegated until MDI practice would take this long. I'm not saying pieces doesn't deserve their win, in fact i'm happy it's someone other than method or limit in the race for once in years. The point is that blizzard released an overtuned class-stack wall of a boss when most WF raiders were busy in offtime or doing MDI practice. It's unhealthy and has a negative impact on the WF community as a whole, considering the amount of work they have to put in before each race. This is a blizzard design and timegating problem.

    Blizzard hasn't known what to do (or really probably even cared tbh) with WF races since like MoP/maybe even cata. I respect method for investing some money into making the WF races more interesting and trying to grow interest in the raiding scene when it's at the word it's ever been.

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