No they are not reskinned Goblins, they don't look anything alike. Just because they share the same rig (FYI every race in this game shares the same skeleton) doesn't mean that one is just a reskin of another.
Nightborne are obviously (lore-wise and from the looks) a Night Elf reskin, because they literally just have different skin options/colors. Again, they don't look anything alike. Zandalari aren't unique either. They're again, a troll race, for the most part they're even just straight standing trolls with other skin options and some different detail. Kul Tirans are the only somewhat unique Allied Race, but then again they're still humans lore-wise and not a purely unique race either. They're fat humans.
Vulpera are a different race lore-wise and their model looks totally different. They have nothing in common with goblins besides some technicalities.
Honestly your post is pretty stupid, there's nothing more to add to that.
Again, all races share this same "skeleton", it's been explained countless times on these forums. And if that was the case it doesn't matter. Just because some technical stuff is the same doesn't mean that goblins and vulpera are the same race or that they look anything alike.
Also "the reason they're called allied races and not simply sub races is that they wanted to leave room for entirely new races. " is something I've heard people say on MMOC as well, but I've never seen Blizz actually say that.
Again, Zandalari Trolls and KT Humans aren't unique as Vulpera are. They're still a subrace of existing races, while Vulpera a distinct race lore-wise and from how they look like.
I don't know how you come to the conclusion that a Brewfest-icon indicates that Vulpera are going to be an Allied Race and not just a normal race in the future.
Good old "BUT WE HAVE TO GATE IT TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN" hyperbole......
Yeah must be working since people are leaving WoW for other games.
Yes it's a bad practice to stagger content to keep people on a sub hook with low quality content. Period. ActiBlizz have proven that this is the path they want to take to rake in more profit at the cost of quality products so let's not pretend otherwise and that games have to have timegating with such hyperbole please.
So in short. If you want to have a discussion I'm happy to but please don't resort to hyperbole to fuel your side.
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Yes. Armor graphics.
One of the issues with tuning a character model, updating, etc, w/e. Is updating every piece of armor to fit properly. These are Blizzards words, not mine.
So from that statement, these "things" have no hands or feet that would use armor. Meaning, half of the armor sets would be useless(not visible) to work on them. Which would cause TONS of other people to complain about it. "My robotic leg gnome isn't wearing the boots he is equipped with. pls fix bliz."
So while a cool idea, I don't ever see it being an allied race, until they can convince the player-base that they will pick a class, that won't show armor on most of its body. A player-base mind you, that chooses gnome and goblins pretty much dead last as played races. Zero reason to do that work for a race no one picks anyway.
I think that one may be the biggest hoop for the idea of making mechagnomes a playable race: the mechanical arms and legs would be hidden behind armor, making their addition rather... pointless. Or if those arms and legs automatically 'hide' arms, gloves, pants and boots... that'd screw up a lot of customized transmog sets...
i think there may be a difference in what you two are talking about.
he's talking about the actual species, you're talking about models.
he's right in that vulpera are an actual new race, while every other allied race are, at the very least, the same species as currently existing races. i hadn't really thought about that fact myself, maybe that does hurt vulpera's chances of being an allied race.
the closest to a new race that we have in the current allied races are nightborne. they are a full new race of elves, they're not just arcane night elves as some people believe. they're every bit as different as blood elves are from night elves. but, they remain the same species as the rest of the elves, elves.
I'd like them, but I know that I'll probably have to play ten million years of time-gated repetitive grindy "content" totally identical to the time-gated grindy Horde content I've already done just to play as one.
There's no need to be so aggressive. There's no hyperbole on my part at all, you're reading into it something that isn't there. I'm merely static a fact.
Yes, it makes more sense to stagger content so as to have a more even player count rather than brief spikes.
There hasn't been a point in this game were we haven't either had really grindy content, or gated content. In Vanilla and TBC, content took time because it was much more grindy and at times overtuned. Not because there was more of it.
Nowadays, you can know every detail about new content before it's even playable. In part, you've already consumed the content because it holds no surprises for you.
Now I'd like to ask, what does FF14 do? Because as I hear it from friends that play it, it's grindy instead. In fact, what does any other MMO do that you might consider to be better? Does any MMO make more and equally good (or better) content at the same pace as WoW?
I'm not trying to vehemently defend WoW, it does plenty of things I don't like. But if you want to point fingers and say "This is bad." it's always a good idea to show examples of what's good, as opposed to what you consider bad.
Personally I don't consider Human "pretty"... are very generic as race... but my point is another: looking at statistics players prefer "pretty" races, so I don't understand why Blizzard spent time to introduce a race that will be barely represented.
Also, mostly of this “allied races” are just a customization options for already existing races. So, basically, to me its hard be excited for something that i don't like aesthetically (the model look very awkward because the disproportion about arms and legs) and as idea.
Instead to introduce new customizable options for our races, we got a customizable option as race. If you are happy for this, good for you... I'm not.
Horde with Nightborn and maybe Vulpera are new races... Alliance got nothing new.
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Seeing WQs grant 75 rep, knowing you need 21 THOUSAND to hit exalted is just flat out enough for people to not do them. I think this is why Allied Races are so underrepresented. People do it though, and that's what Activision (I don't even say Blizzard anymore lmao) banks on. Nothing more than a number, they're all Time Played Metrics.
Only thing that makes me doubt Mechagnomes at this point is they're attached to a neutral rep and the last 4 have had faction specific rep plus vulpera would be a faction specific rep.