Poll: Who would hate the horde most

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    Which races have suffered the most from horde races?

    Humans:
    - Stormwind Kingdom was routed in their 1st war by orcs,
    - Undead annihilated Lordaeron kingdom in 3rd war
    - Horde destroyed Kingdom of Theramore

    Worgen:
    - Undead and Forsaken destroyed Gilneas

    Draenei:
    - Orcs genocide on route to invading Azeroth

    Night Elves
    - Invasion during Cata by Garrosh horde
    - Genocide by Forsaken led horde

    High Elves:
    - Horde invasion in 2nd war
    - Slaughtered by Undead in 3rd war


    Observations:
    - Draenei were able to make a peace with orcs even fight alongside them a few times when it was realised the Legion was manipulating them
    - Draenei were able to work with Blood elves when the Scryers surrendered voluntarily and asked to join them, later they fo armed the shattered offensive even though the blood elves were on the horde and had been fighting them.
    - Blood elves were able to join the horde and forsaken despite past aggressions.
    - Humans have fought alongside the horde for major threats since Wc3, despite being bitter enemies.

    If You Discovered
    iSylvanas' appointment and war effort was manipulated by Queen Azshara and she is the one truly responsible for Teldrassil and the whole BFA war

    • Would you be willing to give Sylvanas a chance to prove her mettle?
    • Would you accept the night elves able to put aside their anger at the horde for Teldrassil to take down Azshara and N'Zoth?

    If it turns out that Sylvanas discovers she was manipulated and ends up being the key reason we are eventually able to take out N'zoth and she ends up doing something greatly heroic by springing a trap that would have killed Tyrande and the rest of the night elf forces who were in a strategic position to end the threat and her sacrifice is what allows Tyrande to finish Azshara/N'zoth and save a trapped Anduin.

    She had lost half the horde to Saurfang /thrall, but her half was also engaging N'zoths/Azshara forces when she learnt of her manipulation Sylvanas didnt die whe her self sacrifice saved the kaldorei, Tyrande, alliance and horde forces and Anduin, but it changed her, she emerges, laying down the warchief mantle, allowing her half of the horde to join the Saurfang/Thrall horde, she also steps down as leader of the forsaken allowing Calia Menethil to lead them

    • Would you exonerate Sylvanas as a horde or alliance player and be proud of her?
    • Would you accept a horde and alliance peace as possible?


    -Do you think the night elves can put their anger at the war of thorns aside and work with the horde?
    -Do you think friendships between horde and alliance races can still happen?
    Example:
    • Night elves with Nightborne and HighmountainTauren neither participated in the war of throns
    • Blood elves and Draenei, especially Lightforged
    • Humans and forsaken led by Calia

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    Would you be willing to give Sylvanas a chance to prove her mettle?
    No? Because Azshara didn't tell her to order the Wrathgate, nuke Gilneas and Southshore using chemical weapons, and allow the construction of a concentration camp for Humans?
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    You forgot what the Horde did to night elfs during warcraft 3
    Last edited by Hellspawn; 2019-04-26 at 01:45 PM.

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    Which Alliance races annihilated horde races?

    There have been some inter horde suffering too, Blood elves and Trolls, orcs have warned against blood elves too, aside from that the rest have got on fairly amicanly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    - Slaughtered by Undead in 3rd war
    This was Scourge Undead, the Forsaken as a race or faction did not exist at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellspawn View Post
    You forgot what the Horde did to night elfs during warcraft 2
    Night Elves were not in WC2. If you mean WC3 then the bulk of damage done was by Orcs following the Legion, so the fault would be with the Legion and not the Horde.

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    I would say Draenei but Legion started it so they were dying race of people before they even arrived on Draeneor. Regardless on how much baiting this topic is, we could switch the question around wuite easily. Trolls(entire Alliance) and Blood Elves(Arthas) say hello.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by The Knight View Post
    This was Scourge Undead, the Forsaken as a race or faction did not exist at this point.


    Night Elves were not in WC2. If you mean WC3 then the bulk of damage done was by Orcs following the Legion, so the fault would be with the Legion and not the Horde.
    Well Orcs killed night elfs and their demi god because they wanted to harvest their trees, even go demon blood infused again.
    Misstyped 2 should be three of course.
    Last edited by Hellspawn; 2019-04-26 at 01:45 PM.

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    Trolls(entire Alliance)
    That's funny, because the mortal enemies of the trolls, the High Elves, are now part of the Horde. On top of that, it was the Horde that canonically raided Zul'aman in The Burning Crusade and killed Zul'jin.
    Last edited by Varodoc; 2019-04-26 at 02:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Void Fallen View Post
    That's funny, because the mortal enemies of the trolls, the High Elves, are now part of the Horde. On top of that, it was the Horde that canonically raided Zul'aman in The Burning Crusade and killed Vol'jin.
    Zul'jin. Get your lore facts straight. And no, Blood Elves are able to make up good with Trolls(See Revantusk, Darkspear and Zandalari). Those who are Kaldorei, Humans and high elves by name? All parts of the Alliance. Not to mention Dwarfs too(Frostmane ice trolls). The hatred between alliance races and troll kind predates the arrival of the Horde by a large margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void Fallen View Post
    No? Because Azshara didn't tell her to order the Wrathgate, nuke Gilneas and Southshore using chemical weapons, and allow the construction of a concentration camp for Humans?
    Oh yes, there is that. Would be interesting if she ends up being the reason the night elves survive Azshara/N'Zoth and end up defeating them., it would be a shit storm if the night elves are only there to be rescued AGAIN to provide plot to redeem Sylvanas - fans are fed up the constant victim/damsel role they keep getting, they will need come off the champions or victors, but only made possible by some action of Sylvanas that prevents them from dying or being wiped out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellspawn View Post
    Well Orcs killed night elfs and their demi god because they wanted to harvest their trees, even go demon blood infused again.
    They killed Cenarius after becoming corrupted by demon blood, at this point they were under the Legion's sway. Shortly after this they even turned on the Horde and attacked them.

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    Ah ravenmoon Arthas led the scourge by your logic the HUMANS genocided the high elves.
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    Worgen lost their homes twice to the Horde.
    The second time they also shared the tragedy of Teldrassil with the Night Elves
    This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    Humans:
    - Stormwind Kingdom was routed in their 1st war by orcs,
    - Undead annihilated Lordaeron kingdom in 3rd war
    - Horde destroyed Kingdom of Theramore

    Worgen:
    - Undead and Forsaken destroyed Gilneas

    Draenei:
    - Orcs genocide on route to invading Azeroth

    Night Elves
    - Invasion during Cata by Garrosh horde
    - Genocide by Forsaken led horde

    High Elves:
    - Horde invasion in 2nd war
    - Slaughtered by Undead in 3rd war
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    Why do you count the Scourge attack as part of the suffering caused by the Horde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Knight View Post
    They killed Cenarius after becoming corrupted by demon blood, at this point they were under the Legion's sway. Shortly after this they even turned on the Horde and attacked them.
    Well stupidity is no excuse. They drank the demon blood to be able to kill the night elfs / Cenarius
    Last edited by Hellspawn; 2019-04-26 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Ah ravenmoon Arthas led the scourge by your logic the HUMANS genocided the high elves.
    Wasn't he working for the Lich King then? Orc responsible, manipulated by the Legion, but still horde ultimately, just like wc1 & 2 orcs

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    Zul'jin. Get your lore facts straight. And no, Blood Elves are able to make up good with Trolls(See Revantusk, Darkspear and Zandalari). Those who are Kaldorei, Humans and high elves by name? All parts of the Alliance. Not to mention Dwarfs too(Frostmane ice trolls). The hatred between alliance races and troll kind predates the arrival of the Horde by a large margin.
    I'd suggest you get your facts straight as well. The Blood Elves are the same High Elves who waged war on the Amani during the Second War and even earlier.

    By the way, are you that Erevien from the WoW forum who is considered a joke by the local community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Knight View Post
    They killed Cenarius after becoming corrupted by demon blood, at this point they were under the Legion's sway. Shortly after this they even turned on the Horde and attacked them.
    Werent the original horde under the Legions sway the whole time, its prob why the humans could work with them for WC3.

    The whole thing of the horde seems to be normal extraordinary people manipulated by evil forces, realising that, breaking free and fighting their enslacpvers then repeat rinse a few years later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    Wasn't he working for the Lich King then? Orc responsible, manipulated by the Legion, but still horde ultimately, just like wc1 & 2 orcs
    Not like the Lich King was commonly known as an Orc.

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