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    Some of my family members were far-left to the point of genuinely being the caricature of an SJW you see today. A very consistent negativity with plenty of venom towards the demographics of white/man. I grew up with some of those leanings of xenophilia and 'homophobia', probably indicating there's some shared heritable portion to political views. Rest of the family seems generally middle of the road and at least socially liberal if not mildly progressive, which makes the hostility towards them all the more unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give Sethrak Blizz View Post
    Conservative but left economically.

    I hated it but I love them both either way.
    That's interesting. I've never noticed many people socially conservative but economically left-wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roboscorcher View Post
    Also, the fetus argument was only 1 of 6 reasons I gave you. How does the pro-life stance address the other 5 issues?
    Fine, I'll break this down. Also, my question to you is, if a woman is pregnant, can I punch her repeatedly in the stomach till the baby dies, and only be charged with assault and battery to the mother? If not, why?

    Edit: also, why is finding a single cell bacteria on Mars or an asteroid considered life, but a baby isn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by roboscorcher View Post
    2 - almost everyone is against late-term abortions.
    Is that why they're fighting to make it legal, and even make it legal to kill them once a newborn?

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    3 - pregnancies are not only painful but can endanger the life of the mother.
    Only one way to get pregnant, don't want to get pregnant, don't do that one thing.

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    4 - some women did not choose the intercourse that impregnated them.
    Literally less than one percent of all abortions. Even so, what crime did that child commit that deserves death.

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    5 - history shows that women will abort even when it's illegal, resulting in even worse situations.
    Only one way to get pregnant, don't want to get pregnant, don't do that one thing.

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    6 - unwanted pregnancies usually happen in the lower class, where raising a kid can drag people into poverty and keep them there.
    So if someone inconveniences me I can kill them, got it.
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    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Only one way to get pregnant, don't want to get pregnant, don't do that one thing. x 2
    You know what my dude, you're absolutely right.
    So much of this issue can be solved by better popularizing hardcore anal.
    If World of Warcraft has taught me anything, it's that teaching a crowd something is far harder than teaching individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonar View Post
    You know what my dude, you're absolutely right.
    So much of this issue can be solved by better popularizing hardcore anal.
    Now that's the fucking spirit!
    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

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    Just left of centre. My parents are not religious nor were/are SJW zealots.

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    I'd say a mix. My father was hard right, and my mother was moderate. These days I'm more of a left-leaning moderate I'd say.

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    My mother, and entire family has been right wing (Norway) mostly due to us living in the "richest" area in this country (Right-wing = tax cuts for upper class). Personally I'm more of a left-wing person though, even though I find whether if the left or the right is in power doesn't really change much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Fine, I'll break this down. Also, my question to you is, if a woman is pregnant, can I punch her repeatedly in the stomach till the baby dies, and only be charged with assault and battery to the mother? If not, why?

    Edit: also, why is finding a single cell bacteria on Mars or an asteroid considered life, but a baby isn't?
    They are both living obviously, but for a freshly-conceived fetus, the only difference between it and a bacteria of the same size is its potential to be something greater. It does not have feelings or thoughts, so what's the big deal if it dies here? Would you mourn for a bacteria? Or are you going to make the argument that the fetus has a soul?

    The reason *you* would get in trouble for killing a fetus is that you are not the host. It's not your decision to make, it's the host's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Is that why they're fighting to make it legal, and even make it legal to kill them once a newborn?
    Again, you're equating all stages of fetus with a newborn baby, which is not logical. We don't give adult rights (like voting) to kids because they are not adults yet. Why are you applying newborn rights all the way down to 4-cell life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Only one way to get pregnant, don't want to get pregnant, don't do that one thing.
    While this works on paper, so does communism. Abstinence-only education does not work because sex is built into our brains.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Literally less than one percent of all abortions.
    Let's assume that this 1% stat is entirely true today. In this article, that's still 16,000 per year. Do these people not matter?

    https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/13/u...abortions.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Even so, what crime did that child commit that deserves death.
    You have not provided a reason for equating all forms of fetus with a child. You may as well say "Even so, what crime did that grandpa commit that deserves death." Maybe that fetus becomes a grandpa one day, but right now, it's a 4-cell robot running on genetic instructions. When the fetus progresses to the point where it does think and feel, I may agree with you.

    I would like to see data on how banning abortion solves anything.

  9. #209
    right wing - who have drifted even further right. I'm actually the most left/liberal person in my family lol (and i'm still on the right just not as far as everyone else)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Calling a white man a man is racist now? 0lease at least get your whiny left wing complaints right.
    Well, we all know your posting history, that's why he called you racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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