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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    I genuinely think the same about you, honestly. If you are born a male you are male for life, nothing in this world can change it, ever, at least not at our current level of tech. surgery, makeup and changing your name does not change that fact.
    Yet you don't get to decide that. That's the thing I'm having a problem with. For some reason, people like you think they are the authority to have the final decision on everything without having any knowledge about anything at all.

    I don't get to decide if Caitlyn Jenner is a woman or not because I know I'm not the expert on this matter and I'm fine with it, why can't you?

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    My parents are conservative, Daegu is pretty conservative. I'm looking to move to maybe Busan if I can now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Drummer View Post
    I would say I grew up in quite a left wing family , all labour supporters.
    You really need to define left/right wing.

    US democrats are (by Americans) considered left wing, but from a European PoV, US Democrats is very right wing... US Republicans (considered right wing by Americans) are "very very mega off the scale right wing" from European PoV where no (or very few) European counter pieces exist.

    With that in mind, even the most left orientated Democrat, would consider 90% of Europeans ultra left wing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laplacedemon View Post
    Yet you don't get to decide that. That's the thing I'm having a problem with. For some reason, people like you think they are the authority to have the final decision on everything without having any knowledge about anything at all.

    I don't get to decide if Caitlyn Jenner is a woman or not because I know I'm not the expert on this matter and I'm fine with it, why can't you?
    There are plenty of things I am not the expert on and don't get to decide. I do know HE can't change HIS chromosomes. He doesn't have female reproductive organs. He doesn't have mammary glads, and never did (don't try to say "oh so women with breast cancer aren't women!? Already heard that lame argument, already stopped you) You are what you are born as. There are two genders, male and female. Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. Trust the kid from Kindergarten Cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. Trust the kid from Kindergarten Cop.



    So true!!
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  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    HEYYYYY, another fucking thing you are wrong about. Fox isn't middle, they are far right, CNN isn't extreme left, they haven't moved. And it sounds like your sister is the sane one in the family.
    ah yes the good old "everyone who is not with me is extremist" Fox far right,good joke.



    Both my parents were leading their own bussiness and working hard. They were not much into supporting lazy people and were right wing.

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    Fairly right leaning about non economic stuff, left when it comes to economical policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    There are plenty of things I am not the expert on and don't get to decide. I do know HE can't change HIS chromosomes. He doesn't have female reproductive organs. He doesn't have mammary glads, and never did (don't try to say "oh so women with breast cancer aren't women!? Already heard that lame argument, already stopped you) You are what you are born as. There are two genders, male and female. Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. Trust the kid from Kindergarten Cop.
    And intersex people don't exist of course, maybe you should expand your horizon beyond 90's comedies? But no, I'm sure that you think you know enough about the matter to make the ultimate decision even though people with more knowledge than you say otherwise. Even a backward country like Iran accepts the existence of trans people, but I'm sure that calling someone who is legally a woman "she" is the epitome of left-wing behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    You really need to define left/right wing.

    US democrats are (by Americans) considered left wing, but from a European PoV, US Democrats is very right wing... US Republicans (considered right wing by Americans) are "very very mega off the scale right wing" from European PoV where no (or very few) European counter pieces exist.

    With that in mind, even the most left orientated Democrat, would consider 90% of Europeans ultra left wing.
    This was the case a long time ago (during B Clinton for example) but certainly not the case any longer. The Democrat party has gone so far to the left that they are more or less in-line with European radical socialists. Open borders, replacing family with government, anti-christianity, extreme taxation, demographic replacement, censorship, loss of self-defence rights, child hormone experimentation and all sorts of other anti-traditionalist ideas.

    Millennial Americans probably won't have noticed the shift as they are too young to remember when the Democrat party was more or less in line with everything Trump says today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolpve View Post
    This was the case a long time ago (during B Clinton for example) but certainly not the case any longer. The Democrat party has gone so far to the left that they are more or less in-line with European radical socialists. Open borders, replacing family with government, anti-christianity, extreme taxation, demographic replacement, censorship, loss of self-defence rights, child hormone experimentation and all sorts of other anti-traditionalist ideas.

    Millennial Americans probably won't have noticed the shift as they are too young to remember when the Democrat party was more or less in line with everything Trump says today.
    It's STILL the case..

    The sister-party of Democrats, here in Denmark is "Venstre".. It's the second most right wing party in the Danish parliament. We have currently 9 parties in parliament.
    We literally have 7 different parties more toward the left than Democrats.. Two of them are right wing parties.
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    A rather individualistic family, but then again, european here, so this wing stuff isn't really important unless you take a look at the extremes.

    TBH I didn't know the political views of my parents in terms of who they vote for until I was basically an adult. Whenever they "bashed" a politician, they didn't bash the person, but rather a dumb statement or decision. Whenever they praised one, then they always gave a specific reason.

    Overall I'd say they are liberal centrists with my mom being more left and my dad being more liberal in terms of self-sufficiency. Both are socially liberal, but then again this is europe, so pretty normal stuff.

    Funnily enough all of them do bash Trump on a regular basis xD

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    What would left-wing or right-wing growing up be like? My family was normal, worked, didn't have religious views or discussed politics. My dad's parents were very religious, but he made sure they didn't try to push it onto me. Mom's family was poor, but she was very much about hard work and against people who leached off the system.

    With how more extreme the left is starting to get, I guess my family is slightly more right leaning, because we were just normal people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonar View Post
    I'm not American, so moderate, well-balanced, and discussing ideas on their individual merits instead of "which side" they belong to.
    Its so weird how people pick "sides" in politics. I always thought Ireland sucked in terms of politics as its just a blame game between the parties while no one tries to fix anything but we seem blessed compared to the US lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    It's STILL the case..

    The sister-party of Democrats, here in Denmark is "Venstre".. It's the second most (of nine) right wing party in the Danish parliament.
    We literally have 7 different parties more toward the left than Democrats.. Two of them are right wing parties.
    Yep, the only thing coming from the democrats that's even close to "left-ish" ideas in europe is the Green New Deal. Traditional Dems would be somewhere in line with our conservatives which is why Merkel and Obama make such good friends. And some stuff your republicans say in public would directly lead to them being forced to step down. Heck, most of the stuff Trump says or tweets would be an instant red flag for any sane politician.

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    Center-Right wing for the country I live in, super ultra left for the US

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    Centre-Right, like most Flemish families christian democrats were generally the default party to go for for the longest time. That was before they lost what their identity was about and tried shifting in every direction simply to ride a populist wave.

    Supposedly my family name has quite a few left-wing politicians some who made it far in politics, but those are all merely people i share a last name with and thus have no real ties or connections with.

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    Why does it have to be black or white, one or the other, I'd consider what family I do have and myself as center or independent think for ourselves types. Don't need one ideology or the other for how you should think or feel about everything. There are things about both sides I support or abhor.

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    My family wasn't explicitly political, we didn't often talk about politics but the pervading attitude was cynicism.

    We were pretty socially progressive though.
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    “The PSD is a catch-all party: its values are conservative, its economic policy is liberal and it has a social, left-leaning rhetoric when it comes to public policies,” said political analyst Radu Magdin, who was an adviser to Victor Ponta, the PSD prime minister ousted by public protest a year ago.
    The PSD sounds more like a populist party to me, at first hand. Talking "left" and acting "right", manipulating, is what many populist politicians do.

    Romania inherited corruption from it's former occupier Russia and it's hard to extinguish. Your country slightly dropped on the International Corruption-index last year and is in a bad spot: 61/180. But if you can imagine that Russia is at 138/180 and therefor is twice as corrupt as Romania then you people surely made progress making the country livable for ordinary people. Just keep on fighting for a better future, you will get there some day. Don't give up like the Russians did, because then you really lost.

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