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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    snip.
    I think it is evident by how combative and rude you have been that the reason you have this issue is because you are simply bitter and miserable. If I were a women listening to the way you have been speaking to people, I would have 0 interest in even speaking to you. If this is how you act outside of the internet, then I think this is a bigger problem than not being physically attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    On a totally unrelated note I was reading about Notch today.

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    Radical feminists get laid.
    Do they, do they really? They according to themself get raped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    See now, when I read this, I keep thinking about how to fix this world. How does a person like you figure this stuff out then? It truly feels like we're living in a game world / computer simulation sometimes reading this stuff.
    Sorry, I don't quite follow what you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    I am absolutely a jerk, a complete cunt. But I encourage you to rise above.
    I think this needs to be preserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I think it is evident by how combative and rude you have been that the reason you have this issue is because you are simply bitter and miserable. If I were a women listening to the way you have been speaking to people, I would have 0 interest in even speaking to you. If this is how you act outside of the internet, then I think this is a bigger problem than not being physically attractive.
    You are not understanding the main issue here. The whole point for the incels and their discussion was that "looks" mattered a lot. I am willing to bet that all of you fellas know about this (we're freaking gamers for crying out loud and gamers are just as shallow as anyone else is, the true irony). There were many discussions on the forums about what kind of coping mechanisms should we use to continue to live? Do you know how most people choose to live? Get a family. Live for pleasure. Find love. For community. Without a doubt in my mind you can find both physical and spiritual meaning in it. Women know it too, despite the humour that is going on right now that "women do not want to become mothers". However, when people like ourselves who were bullied to the nth degree get to the point of chaos and actually want to commit acts of it, suddenly the view turns on us and says we're of decadence (even though they prefer it just as much as we do) yet then act like they "know" what the solution is.

    All I can think about how to fix this. We really are fucking monkeys. And listening to you fellas tell me to search for higher meaning especially when none of you would even bother trying to find it is the ultimate hypocrisy. It's absolutely insane to hear it from you jerks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    That's the problem with most of them. How they behave towards others.
    Case and point. PS. The women literally joked about ruining her husbands life and knows that ugly people get shat on (she probably does it herself too to others as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore View Post
    Sorry, I don't quite follow what you mean?
    Sorry bud. I just read your story and was impressed but disappointed that you couldn't get laid. It sorta knocks the idea out that perhaps success means nothing when it comes to dating. I just used to hear from the people who boasted about confidence and success and that women would come naturally all the time and then I hear yours and am quite confused and befuddled by the reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Because it depends on what you mean by "lose"... there are many games, and if you choose the one game you know you will lose, then yes... but other games are more meaningful, and those anyone can win, if they persevere and continue to "knock" on the door.
    I know you guys posted fellas who died without fathering children but I find it useless that "everyone eventually becomes forgotten (their work too though it will evolve over time) and I know that neither of you two would go down that route at all on trying to "knock" that door and find meaning in it.

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    Hookers exist. You don't have to be pretty to work a job and get skrilla.

    Instead of crying online 24/7 get the fuck out of your house, not only hot bitches exist.
    Plenty of ugly ones who need love too lol a holes a hole m8.

    Internet breeds this toxic fucking cancer, incels need to deal with life like a god damn man and quit being a bitch.

    Thank god I was born with great features and a rock hard 2 inch cock or I could have been one of these losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    Sorry bud. I just read your story and was impressed but disappointed that you couldn't get laid. It sorta knocks the idea out that perhaps success means nothing when it comes to dating. I just used to hear from the people who boasted about confidence and success and that women would come naturally all the time and then I hear yours and am quite confused and befuddled by the reasoning.
    I think a better way to look at it is... "being attractive" is more of a 'skill', than a state of being. You have to active pursue things to make yourself more attractive. Make healthy food choices, make yourself work out, make yourself actively seek out situations you can interact with women, and then make yourself actually talk to those women.

    Easier said than done, obviously. A lot of insecurities constantly get in the way, so I just try to reflect on the source of those insecurities, ask myself if they're legitimate or not, and if so, what can I do to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I will not have children... that does not bother me for a few reasons... one is I would be a horrible father.

    But I took a different path for myself. I do have a partner though. And sex really is not my issue. But I also lacked meaning, and found the normal "grind" (job, home, sleep, job, etc, etc) to be hollow.

    I found my meaning in theology, philosophy and science. I do not regret that.
    I know what you are. I get it (even if you weren't, then you probably would be a father). That's not what I meant. I personally follow the belief that we're slaves to god, but what annoyed me is that we can't actually kill God unless we destroy that belief somehow. There are methods that I would like to try one day but there are some.

    I never minded job home sleep job and so forth. The problem was the lack of a lady in my life. It really is true. Women are the death of duty and love is the answer to all.

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    I'll be brief. I could have been an 'incel' as well, if not for me being, first, female (because female incels don't exist according to those who self-label as incels in majority), and a social hermit.

    However. I realize that's a me problem. People are not obligated to pay attention to me when I withdraw from standard social activities. I have a tendency tp appear aloof and standoffish to people, somewhat to my own knowledge, mostly what I've been told, because now I have a few precious friends I can mostly be very upfront with, so getting more insight.

    This doesn't make you an incel. The term is a misnomer if you ask me tbh. Anyone, literally anyone, can have sex at any time...ofc, unless you have ridiculously high standards. And this is coming from a person with often unreasonably-high standards. Mostly for myself but whatever.

    Anyho, there are people who have problems connecting with other people due to whatever problem they have, be it temporary, more long-term (like autism for one), disability, whatever...they deserve help, but it can't helped if not acknowledged and sought out. That someone else gives a leg-up is pure luck/coincidence.

    I will never call such people incels, and I can fully understand why they feel bad about themselves.

    On the other hand.

    On the other hand are the very vocal, oftentimes very mysogynistic, hateful, blatantly hypocritical scumbags who do not seek human relationship; they seek an appearence, a 'status'. The ones who just bark about wanting to just have a sexual debut have an awful tendency to balk at the obvious "then buy a hooker". Be it either because they don't wanna pay money for something 'everyone else is having for free, damn chads!', or they don't want to stoop to the 'subhumans' for their demands, or they want a 'loving relationship with a woman who wants me for who I am' when who they are tends to be very discommodating (I learned a new word!) for most other human-beings, male or female.

    Criteria for the sort of the relationship they want often goes into something more akin to a subserviant who idolizes them no matter how grotesque they act towards them or others, likes and agrees everything they like and do, never hurts them, never disobeys, and is never smarter/better than them in any way other than what they want them to be, mainly caretaking aspects. And she must be cute/beautiful/etc, often the stereotypical arm-candy look, regardless if the dude in question themselves could actually 'looksmatch' this mythical unicorn. Because many talk a lot about this whole looksmatch BS and other PUA-esque shite that does no favors to the people stuck in this self-deprecating hate-filled rabbit-hole 'community' who can be saved, and deserve to be saved.

    These are the people that we hear the most about, who gives label/movement/whatever such an utterly bad air about it, and I understand why.

    Hence I don't think the label should continue it's existance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    I'll be brief. I could have been an 'incel' as well, if not for me being, first, female (because female incels don't exist according to those who self-label as incels in majority), and a social hermit.

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    Hence I don't think the label should continue it's existance.
    Maybe talk to the *woman* who invented the label for herself? It's been taken over and claimed for themselves by the hateful shitstains you acknowledge, but it did have a beginning worth acknowledging. That you possess the self-awareness you demonstrated shows you to never have been one, credit to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    All I can think about how to fix this. We really are fucking monkeys. And listening to you fellas tell me to search for higher meaning especially when none of you would even bother trying to find it is the ultimate hypocrisy. It's absolutely insane to hear it from you jerks.
    Some of us are still in the process of discovering/searching for it. It's an ongoing thing, the journey doesn't really have an endpoint, not until we die.

    A lot of people act tough here in the safe anonymity of this forum. But quite a few here would act differently in real life. Some of us are trying to help people out IRL too. Don't let random people on the internet get to you
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    Trump did it so it's good. I put my faith in a strong political figure because I lack self-esteem and feel threatened by a changing world. Whoever stands against him is bad because I do not understand their arguments and I have a simple tribalistic mindset created through the consumption of right-wing media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Maybe talk to the *woman* who invented the label for herself? It's been taken over and claimed for themselves by the hateful shitstains you acknowledge, but it did have a beginning worth acknowledging. That you possess the self-awareness you demonstrated shows you to never have been one, credit to you.
    I know this, and is irrelevant to how the current blob has been hijacked waaay away from the original intent of what was a movement.

    (And thanks, I spent a lot of time with introspection, since my need for socializing is very shallow xD)
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  13. #533
    I have never come across anyone whom labels themselves an incel who didn't hate women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I don't necessarily think it's a psychosis, merely a victim complex. People don't want to be responsible for their position in life. I was a boring teenager, and girls were not into me. I had lots of friends, but I was always on the edge, watching everyone else live more-exciting lives. That all changed right after high school. In high school, I was in sports, and did plenty of extra-curricicular activities, but I was terrified of talking to girls. When I first got into college, I picked up different hobbies. I got into street racing, still did sports, and also started more outdoor activities like skydiving, hiking, and even drinking/partying. In high school, I was always the sober one, not so much by the end of college. After college, I joined the Marines, and continued to do interesting things.

    Most incels are average dudes. They just happen to be average dudes who want to blame others for not wanting to be around them. Of course, the flip side of that is that most popular guys are also average dudes... who just happen to be more interesting.
    No, incels are way beyond regular jealous guys who can't get a date. Incel is when it metastasises on the internet and becomes an insane cult of self-hatred projected outwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Do they, do they really? They according to themself get raped
    Talked to a lot, have you? LOL.

    Let me guess, you've only ever seen them on the internet in LIBTARDS OWNED EPIC STYLE videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    No, incels are way beyond regular jealous guys who can't get a date. Incel is when it metastasises on the internet and becomes an insane cult of self-hatred projected outwards.
    They're ugly dudes yo. That's all this is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    They're ugly dudes yo. That's all this is about.
    Check out this asshole:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189

    Physically, he's not particularly unattractive. Repulsive personality though, that's the actual problem.

    It's really in their heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Check out this asshole:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189

    Physically, he's not particularly unattractive. Repulsive personality though, that's the actual problem.

    It's really in their heads.
    I know all about this but the truecels and the fellas in their 30s who are virgins all claimed it was their appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickbuttmario View Post
    I know all about this but the truecels and the fellas in their 30s who are virgins all claimed it was their appearance.
    I bet Rodgers did too. They're full of shit.

    More accurately, they have the self-image of a bulimic teenage girl. Very similar phenomenon. I'm sure some of them are ugly, but a lot of the time it's dramatically exaggerated. And shit, the world is full of ugly people who manage to get laid...

    The real reason they can't get dates is their toxic downward spiral of misery and self-loathing which manifests as repulsive behaviour towards others. Which they reinforce to one another online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I bet Rodgers did too. They're full of shit.

    More accurately, they have the self-image of a bulimic teenage girl. Very similar phenomenon. I'm sure some of them are ugly, but a lot of the time it's dramatically exaggerated. And shit, the world is full of ugly people who manage to get laid...

    The real reason they can't get dates is their toxic downward spiral of misery and self-loathing which manifests as repulsive behaviour towards others. Which they reinforce to one another online.
    Whatever. Still ugly dudes on the low-end of society and are upset that no one cares about. Then are told that they need to rise up to feel accepted into society by money or rise above society through religion or some shit and become something different. Either way, the original method would've been better but the truth is they were bullied for their ugliness and got dismantled for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I bet Rodgers did too. They're full of shit.

    More accurately, they have the self-image of a bulimic teenage girl. Very similar phenomenon. I'm sure some of them are ugly, but a lot of the time it's dramatically exaggerated. And shit, the world is full of ugly people who manage to get laid...

    The real reason they can't get dates is their toxic downward spiral of misery and self-loathing which manifests as repulsive behaviour towards others. Which they reinforce to one another online.
    A lot of the "ugly" incels end up being dudes that just dont take care of theirself. There was this one super skinny dude's picture that was going around as "im so ugly" on the reddit, before it was purged, and all the damn kid had to do was clean himself and get a flattering haircut and his appearance would drastically change. This is, in my opinion, the norm for most incels. They don't put in any effort, be it exercise, hygiene, or fashion, and then bitch about being seen as "ugly".

    As you said, it isn't their looks that are killing their chances with women, it is a shitty misogynistic attitude mixed with a sense of entitlement that permeates incel mentality.

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