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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Yeah that's another thing I don't get about the uproar or whatever you want to call it.

    Console exclusives mean you have to buy the hardware to play them.

    The difference between PC exclusives is a piece of FREE software.
    This can go both ways. You may think customers are lazy for complaining about extra launcher, I think developers are lazy for not selling game on extra launcher. PC games have no extra porting cost that console exclusives forego by staying on one platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    You can't call something being sold elsewhere dealing with an inferior product while also honestly claiming everyone on PC is even. There are plenty of games that can only be bought on steam or only played by buying a steam key and being forced to deal with Steam. I can't play skyrim on Origin's. You can't even have steam track acheivements of games they sell if you buy a non-steam version.

    But hey keep telling yourself that exclusives are bad. Keep telling yourself that PC is even. Keep telling yourself that exclusives just piss people off. All the while using steam which sells exclusives, which forces you to use steam games if you want certain features of steam. Which doesn't need to sign developers when they are the only real option.
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  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    Nobody stops developers from releasing on different stores.
    Right because Developers don't release games publishers do.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    If they are solely on the Steam platform then they are exclusive to steam. You don't have to sign a contract to be exclusive if there is no where else to go.
    And yet Epic are doing the exact same thing by limiting peoples choice on where they buy their game for up to 12 months or so.. Yes Steam needed competition but the way Epic are going about it, is not the way to go all you do is create animosity in the PC gaming arena..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Right because Developers don't release games publishers do.........
    The proper way would be what Paradox have done with their upcoming game VtM: BL2 and have it release on four distribution platforms.. Heck even though the publisher for Outerworlds did the dirty with steam one can still get it from the Microsoft store..

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    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    The proper way would be what Paradox have done with their upcoming game VtM: BL2 and have it release on four distribution platforms.. Heck even though the publisher for Outerworlds did the dirty with steam one can still get it from the Microsoft store..
    And you can still go buy BL3 and Rocket League on PS4/XB1 (and Switch for RL). Welcome to how all markets actually work, exclusives are the core of competition.

    Only way someone could come in to be competition for steam was to throw cash around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    And you can still go buy BL3 and Rocket League on PS4/XB1 (and Switch for RL). Welcome to how all markets actually work, exclusives are the core of competition.

    Only way someone could come in to be competition for steam was to throw cash around.
    Maybe so, but it still breeds a lot of discontent by forcing a persons choice if they want the game early to a platform that they may not like.. A lot of the animosity against Epic is how the most anticipated games of this year (Metro Exodus) that were advertising to be available on Steam suddenly did a switcheroo just before being released..

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    Competition leads to innovation. Epic isn't competing, since they're not offering the same games. If Epic came along with their 12% split and didn't buy exclusivity from games, it would be competition. The old platform with a lot of users baked in, or the new one with better revenue split. As it stands you either buy from steam, or you buy another game from Epic, you don't ever have the choice of picking between them (From a major game, some indies might)


    I'm not really mad, just disappointed after they said (multiple times) that they want to get out of the exclusivity market that they continue grabbing exclusives.
    Problem is steam is so big that without grabbing exclusives you're not ever going to be able to compete. People are generally set in their ways and don't change where they shop unless forced to.

    Most of steams users I wouldn't be surprised came from when you started to need steam to run the game even if you bought disk version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    Maybe so, but it still breeds a lot of discontent by forcing a persons choice if they want the game early to a platform that they may not like.. A lot of the animosity against Epic is how the most anticipated games of this year (Metro Exodus) that were advertising to be available on Steam suddenly did a switcheroo just before being released..
    And yet that game still sold way more on EGS then the first two of its series did on Steam combined. Its the loud minority that gives a shit but like I said its a minority.

    Steam has been the main place to buy PC games for over a decade, Just having a better working store wouldn't be enough to get people to switch over.

    Exclusives breed competition, doesn't matter if its exclusive games or features.

    Was how Metro was handled shitty? Yes but it still worked. With BL3 and Outer Worlds you know well in advance.
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    The best part about being a weeb is i dont give a single shit what western game go where cause i have less than 0 interest in them. Awwwww yeeeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    And yet that game still sold way more on EGS then the first two of its series did on Steam combined. Its the loud minority that gives a shit but like I said its a minority.

    Steam has been the main place to buy PC games for over a decade, Just having a better working store wouldn't be enough to get people to switch over.

    Exclusives breed competition, doesn't matter if its exclusive games or features.

    Was how Metro was handled shitty? Yes but it still worked. With BL3 and Outer Worlds you know well in advance.
    Will just have to wait and see, Outerworlds I may get when it gets set free (in no rush got so many games I hardly play anyway) or just get it from the MS Store, as for BL3 well not even sure about that one, but again in no rush to get it either..

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    The best part about being a weeb is i dont give a single shit what western game go where cause i have less than 0 interest in them. Awwwww yeeeeee
    guess epic will buy your fav waifu sim studio next

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    or just get it from the MS Store
    I can't even buy anything from the MS store lol. Like I physically CAN'T, the store won't download anything to my computer it always fails not matter what fix i do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    I can't even buy anything from the MS store lol. Like I physically CAN'T, the store won't download anything to my computer it always fails not matter what fix i do
    Yeah when things like that happen then it really is a pita.. Why having multiple platforms is better than one or two, for when things like that happen..

  13. #153
    Long live Steam - a beacon of light in the digital content distribution market.

    Death to Epic Games - the antithesis of integrity.

    PS: Exclusives are pro-corporation and anti-consumer. Whether that be PlayStation 4 exclusives or Epic Games exclusives, the methodology is the same.
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    A few years from now all in support on this will choke on their praises for this when they realize epic and swiney are just more of the same and maybe even worse when they turn into something like EA due to necessity of their shareholders.

    What a big surprise that will be /s

    Gamers are going to be shafted once again but what else is new eh 90's repeating themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheEnd View Post
    Long live Steam - a beacon of light in the digital content distribution market.

    Death to Epic Games - the antithesis of integrity.

    PS: Exclusives are pro-corporation and anti-consumer. Whether that be PlayStation 4 exclusives or Epic Games exclusives, the methodology is the same.
    And since the egs is about making corporations happy, it's no surprise they like exclusives.

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    I read on kotaku of an apri fool's joke about some1 announcing a launcher to launch different game launchers, think we're getting there and faster than expected too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    guess epic will buy your fav waifu sim studio next
    Yeah like epic can buy nintendo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yeah like epic can buy nintendo
    If fortnite stays that strong for some years more that could happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    If fortnite stays that strong for some years more that could happen
    Dont you fucking dare

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    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    And yet Epic are doing the exact same thing by limiting peoples choice on where they buy their game for up to 12 months or so.. Yes Steam needed competition but the way Epic are going about it, is not the way to go all you do is create animosity in the PC gaming arena..
    But if it is acceptable now for games to only be on steam, origin, or Uplay (not sure if uplay has any exclusives since they play nice with steam still) why is it bad for there to now be exclusives on Epic. You and others are labeling it bad for the simple fact that Epic is new rather then one of the established stores that already do what you are hating on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    Nobody stops developers from releasing on different stores.
    Obviously there is a reason why every developer hasn't put their game on every digital distribution platform out there.
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