You can block 5 people here and the life is just a tad more shiny I guess. Then again, were is the fun in blocking people? It makes life just a tad more fun.
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And isn't that kind of a good feeling? Next expansion is going to be great compared to BfA.
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negativity is totally deserved because the game is shit
also considering that they've been deleting feedback and saying there wasnt any feedback shows how much they care.. so i'd say there is not enough negativity and criticism tbh
No, you brainlet, what it means is that you block a couple of people that make up for majority of the bullshit posts and that alone is enough.
Funny you speak of an echo chamber, yet if anything, these forums are an echo chamber for shitposters that have absolutely nothing constructive to say, simply because of how they voice their opinions - everything is always COMPLETE FUCKING SHIT - never "okay this is good but that could be better, this no good but that I like..."
Then you have the resident baiters that like to start pointless threads with loaded questions, stretching over 30 pages.
It makes sense if someone spam their shit in every thread 24/7 and you need to read only 1 posts from them to know them all - like for example @Eleccybubb. They are similar to people possesed by ideology (maybe it's same thing?).
It hurts every discussion, real critique (and imo forums are only for critic, asking for help or speculations, I'd rather do stuff that are fun for me than discussing it) get lost under sea of shit.
But sadly blocking don't hide their post completely, so on this forum it makes little sense. I stopped doing it long time ago.
Oh wait you can actually block people? Magnificent. This shows how much of a noob i am on forums. Thank you!
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Ikr? Back off. Go create a sucessful game, have a forum dedicated to it, where everyone says you're shit. Lol.
Ah, good morning Vietnam.
It's a natural response to the current state of the game.
You think development is writing a bunch of code? Both were in the works long before we ever got to see any of it. It's not been "proved" at all. It's just the same confusing actual changes being deployed on the PTR with development having started. Development is nearly done at that point.
i'd play it if it was any better.. i've given lots of constructive feedback during wod and legion beta.. it was all ignored, they've ignored thousands of threads on forums only to then remove it and say there wasnt any feedback
also i dont want to move on, i want the game to be better and will play it if it will ever become good again
without any criticism this game will never become good again, both constructive and just plain hate
I'll say they have listened to much, but in wrong places. In areas were I personally doesn't agree with the choices they made. I like to do stuff to progress the character. A challenge you might say. Not so much gear-wise, it is over the top in BfA, gotta be said. I don't mind that so much, since I got several alts, but for the main(s) I would like it more like it was in Legion. People complained, so they gave us Azerite-system instead. A system wich is artifact 0.5 as people delicately points out. People get to certain level and say this is it, I don't need more. While artifact system gave us something to do for a much longer time, because that required more dedication. Most complaints in Legion came for the first 6 months after launch. My best time in Legion were those 6 months. Now, you can stop at level 48 for HoA if you raid mythic, even lower for heroic. You don't really need to do more to be at top. And we got to that level a while ago already. There is nothing to do for people that are level 50 now because that won't be increased before next patch. It is to easy. But that's me.
This is just an example that they listens to someones liking, but not for everyone. That perspective is really important. I don't like some of the changes, but someone do. I do get that Azerite system is the biggest fault in BfA, and it could have been so much better, but some people like it. I wager most people don't mind it. Let's not forget that. And blizz seems to be aware that it got big flaws. But like you point out, maybe too late.
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I enjoy the game alot, i have put hours on it, i've played with my friends i had and still have great time in it, not everything is white roses, i can't change the game myself to what i feel like, so instead, i brainstorm with people and see if we can give a feedback so that blizzard AT LEAST thinks in changing, there's no garantuee they will even see every single word you say because let's be realistic it's so much people and so much typing, who tf has time to read all that? This is why constructive criticism when you make a thread with solutions is better to just type what you feel like. I pretty much want to play the game, it's being hard to get motivated to play, indeed but i just won't give up the game i fell in love with and other games just seems a copycat from WoW to me. I can't play other game and don't think about WoW. Yes i want better content, fk yes! Yes i do want better stories! Yes i want GCDs out of my way! I never saw a post of anyone saying "Oh blizz, you know what i miss? GCDs... those were the times man...", i want it reverted. No one cares about the damn GCDs. I hope in some point in the timeline they reverse it and take some design systems from other expansions that everything was more or less forwarded to the right path until it got smashed. I never abandoned blizzard and won't be now. Until the game dies completely which i see it happening if people continue just bring them down. They are not perfect and as we do have our frenzy times, they have too and they say people are being this and that with some reason, i mean, i come here and see all this. I wasn't registered on MMOchampion for years but i always come here for the news and because BfA is not going so well i thought: Fuck it. I'm going to join this to see what people are up to and what they think about the expansion. I don't know, it feels like i came here to get more stressed and confused and have less empathy with the game that i love. When i just used to think before all this "i'm sitting in boralus and Dazar alor doing nothing, the content is non-existent" but that's it. Now i just feel i'm going against every single thing of blizzard that i wasn't. And i still don't agree with some stuff. WoW is NOT a bad game, WoW just have been decaying in quality doesn't mean it's a bad game, it has amazing lore, amazing graphics, amazing villains, amazing characters, amazing music, amazing competition with guilds for World 1st, has blizzcon, has Arena competition teams, has m+ competition too. How can you not acknowledge how big this game is? It needs adjustments. Lots of them. That is a fact but i won't just give up. It's not in my veins.
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Honest to god, have you've ever been on the class design forums during BFA alpha/beta?
Lots of constructive feedback and kind suggestions going beyond 1000 posts and discussions and what do we get? Nothing but a straight up middle finger.
Makes you wonder sometimes, "What's the point of feedback or forums if the devs don't even bother to have a discussion or contemplate these suggestions that many dedicated players have theorized or discussed upon?"
Most of the people on these forums probably (maybe less, who knows) pay for this product and have the right to bitch, complain, or complement. If you hate it, then stop looking at the forums or pointing out the obvious.
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We’re paying for a product (Or we were) and changes happened that made us unhappy with it.
What do you expect us to do? Think of the poor widdle game developers feewings? Any game dev worth their salt should be open to and engaged in receiving criticism. Otherwise their game will never improve.
WoW narrative team is a prime example of what not to do. Walling themselves off from all criticism when people overwhelmingly despise their work.