250 Gaza Rockets Fired at Israel; One Israeli Killed, Four Palestinians Said Killed

[PC2]

Identity politics is an ideology...

Identity politics is bad. I think we agree there.

Left and right *ideas* however exist independent of any partcular person's identity.

[Machismo]

Identity politics is bad. I think we agree there.

Left and right *ideas* however exist independent of any partcular person's identity.

Unless you identify as right/left... which a large percentage of Americans do.

[ranzino]

It's not their territory. Jews had the region before Muslims even existed.

if you want to open that can of worms it will turn ugly.

[Vargrik]

It's not their territory. Jews had the region before Muslims even existed.

No they hadn't. They were a tiny minority there.

[PC2]

Unless you identify as right/left... which a large percentage of Americans do.

Okay, arguing about political ideals is good. Arguing about personal identities is bad. Religion reaches into both, but in a perfect world there wouldn't be any religion at all.

[Machismo]

Okay, arguing about political ideals is good. Arguing about personal identities is bad. Religion reaches into both, but in a perfect world there wouldn't be any religion at all.

In a perfect world, there wouldn't be any government at all.

[PC2]

No they hadn't. They were a tiny minority there.

That's fine, it's still more of a claim than people who wouldn't arrive until many centuries later.

[Vargrik]

That's fine, it's still more of a claim than people who wouldn't arrive until many centuries later.

Jews have been a minority there since they ceased to be a realm, almost 2000 years ago.

Romans, Christians and then Muslims (along with other temporary forces) ruled those lands. Not Jews. And they all conquered by force, not by trickery and corruption.

[Tabrotar]

Palestine was a British colony at the time, Britain had occupied Palestine since the Turks were defeated in WWI. Prior to WWII, Britain let like 400K European Jews immigrate to Palestine.

This angered the Palestinians, who asked the British to stop Jewish immigration to Palestine. Britain tried.

After Germany fell during WWII, over a million European Jews washed up on Palestinian shores. More coming each day. Britain couldn't do much about it.

Britain threw up their hands and left Palestine.

1948 war between Jews and Palestinians was fought.

1950 the UN made Israel a country with nearly a unanimous vote. Your country voted "yes" to make Israel a country too. The only countries that didn't vote "yes" were the Muslim countries.

Many more wars between Israel and the Muslim countries were fought.

No they didn´t let the ships land in what now is Israel, bcs they know what would happen. Only after what i wrote they let them in. And lets not forget that the jews back then bombed and killed the british bcs they wouldn´t let them have their own country. Somehow similar to what the palestinians do now how curious...

And no my country didn´t voted bcs neiter germany nor east-germany were in the un back then.

[Barendon]

No they didn´t let the ships land in what now is Israel, bcs they know what would happen. Only after what i wrote they let them in. And lets not forget that the jews back then bombed and killed the british bcs they wouldn´t let them have their own country. Somehow similar to what the palestinians do now how curious...

And no my country didn´t voted bcs neiter germany nor east-germany were in the un back then.

I don't believe Jewish terrorist group pre-Israel targeted civillian population.

[Tabrotar]

I don't believe Jewish terrorist group pre-Israel targeted civillian population.

That´s ok i mean it´s all there to read but nobody needs to belive it...

[Barendon]

That´s ok i mean it´s all there to read but nobody needs to belive it...

And in the event there were (we're talking about the 30s-40s), what's your point?

[Maglen]

Yeah that's never going to happen at this point. I've lost all hope. Israel is full of Right-Wing extremists and the Palestinians are basically being held hostage by a terrorist group.

Funny, only one group is launching rockets into the other, using human shields to protect themselves.. Who are the terrorists again?

[PACOX]

Someone: Israel has a right to be there! Its their ancestral homeland!
Opps: The Palestinians have been there since forever too. Even before the reestablishment of Israel.
Someone: STFU, the left just hates the Jews!
Opps: What does this even have to do with left vs right politics...

More proxy war bullshit.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

This is a civil war. We are mostly the same people.

Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots
https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-...oots-1.5411201

Are u jewish? Our was that like a quote.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

My family is Jewish, yes.

Ah didn't know.

[Ozyorkbourne]

Jews have been a minority there since they ceased to be a realm, almost 2000 years ago.

Romans, Christians and then Muslims (along with other temporary forces) ruled those lands. Not Jews. And they all conquered by force, not by trickery and corruption.

By that logic, it belong to whoever can take and hold it. Ergo, it currently belongs to Israel who are easily holding it.

[Tabrotar]

And in the event there were (we're talking about the 30s-40s), what's your point?

That the jews did the same back then and should know that they won´t stop?

[PACOX]

With the help of the US and the Evangelical community:

[video=youtube_share;Fo77sTGpngQ]https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ[video]

I've been around some end times evangelicals. Some/quite a few are privileged extremists.

[Barendon]

That the jews did the same back then and should know that they won´t stop?

Except the palestinians have constantly been given chances of resolution across decades. Hamas never negotiated peace and never intended to .