High warlord / Grand Marshal

[Ahandii89]

I have a family and a job, so not really possible

[Mukind]

I tried it on p servers as a paladin.

On a smaller p server we had a team that literally never lost a cap....Was still a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS TO RANK. And there wasn't that much competition by private server standards (which is obvious by never allowing a single flag cap). But what they lacked in skill and prep they made up for in play time.

Still easily over half the week needed to be spent grinding with no losses and better honor per hour than any competitors.

I didn't bother stopped at 11 and just played for fun (black mechanostrider is dwarf pala bis), two of my fellow paladins finished the grind just for the lulz but you gain basically nothing but a 2h and a MH when AQ releases (that isn't even bis).

Really the phsyical classes are the only ones it's worth it for. You do get some gains as a caster but not nearly as big as war/rogue/hunter. The rest you're just doing it for hte love of the game or the challenge

edit - druids have a badass set too but that's only good for pvp, the physical classes get BiS weapons for BWL. Warrior marshall legs are godlike. Nothing like that for most classes

[sibut]

I can't imagine having that much time on my hands or caring that much.

[Hinastorm]

yea, all gear with 1.12 stats including pvp sets. Dumb move indeed

Great, so the no life's get BiS or near BiS pve gear from it, that lasts a long time? Great.

[Mukind]

Great, so the no life's get BiS or near BiS pve gear from it, that lasts a long time? Great.

yea it's glorious lol

they are not in their final 1.12 version i don't think tho. There will be two updates. Most fo the good stuff will come in at AQ, physical damage dealers get a lot during BWL tho (or around there not sure how it will line up).

[Hinastorm]

yea it's glorious lol

they are not in their final 1.12 version i don't think tho. There will be two updates. Most fo the good stuff will come in at AQ, physical damage dealers get a lot during BWL tho (or around there not sure how it will line up).

I remember a warrior in our guild we got 14 during BWL time, and we dragged him into his first raid ever, and he was almost topping meters as arms. This was horde, but I still find it funny.

[ZazuuPriest]

This shit is reserved for people on government assistance/socialists and commies. Literally no one else could have time for this and do it in a legitimate manner. So hopefully youre either from Alabama, China or Eastern Europe. Either way we feel bad for you if you can get this

[Hittion]

Is it feasible to just wait it out and grab the title later on with a 12 hour a week commitment or do higher ranks keep pushing that rank even after obtaining it?

[Drosul]

I failed miserably in actual vanilla with significantly less responsibilities...

Maybe rank 10 or 11... but that's almost assuredly it for me, unless honor caps to push ranks are vastly lower/less competitive this time around.

[Ettan]

Is it feasible to just wait it out and grab the title later on with a 12 hour a week commitment or do higher ranks keep pushing that rank even after obtaining it?

12hs a week? Not unless your server is completly dead. (No sane individual would maintain their rank after reaching it, but more competition will fill their place.)

The real issue is the weekly decay, you lose 20% of your total aqumilated RP every week.
In the lower ranks this does not matter much.
Towards the end ranks nearly all of your weekly ranking points goes to beating this decay. A few examples;

* This is the norm but could be adjusted (server size/ patch);
**after rank 3; 5k RP is needed for each rankup).
***The absolute max RP anyone can get per week is 13k (top honor earner; standing 1, bracket 1).
**** bracket 2, standing 1 RP = 12k
*****b1 +b2 ~ 0,5% of players
****** outside bracket 1+2; 99.5% of players; maximum RP gain = 11k

(Imagine we farm a ton so we get 11k rp, you can farm more honor than 99% of other horde or ally and not get this).
Rank 10 40k RP; -8k rank decay + 11k
Week 1 -> 43k ; -8,6k + 11k
Week 2 -> 45,4K ; (Hit rank 11)
...

Rank 12 (50k) ; -10k
Week 1 -> 51k ; -10,2k
Week 2 -> 51,8k ; -10360
Week 3... 52440 Rp
....not even 50% towards r13
R13 (55k RP) = -11k Rp <- cutoff rank, to make 12 to 13 realistically you have to mange to get bracket 2.

R13+80% (59k Rp) = -11,800 Rp
13 to 14 ; second cutoff, you dont need standing 1; but you do need to reach b1.

You can chill/ rankup slowly to 1-10, and then from that point push hard a few weeks. (But as you see you will still need to nolife the last few ranks). If you falter you go down down down

[Sughs]

I am not even sure if I want to go for rank 12 since 11->12 it's already a pretty big grind.

[Jurwi]

It's actually a very hard grind for some people. It requires a special kind of mental fortitude because most people dislike what they're doing. I've ranked with my fair share of people going for rank 14, and while I would stop at rank 13, I would watch some of those players becoming more of a mess every day that went by.

I can also tell you that some people that completed the grind kinda hated themselves for it and would quit a few days after doing it.

The most important aspect of ranking to 14 is finding a good group to do so with. Not just skilled people, but also a group of non-toxic players that understand the grind and everyone else that they're playing with

I wouldn't really say it's a "skill" to spend 10 hours a day doing something you don't enjoy. Grinding rank14 is nothing but farming honor for 10 hours a day with your group. Whoever spends the most time, gets most honor and reaches that R14.

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Is it feasible to just wait it out and grab the title later on with a 12 hour a week commitment or do higher ranks keep pushing that rank even after obtaining it?

Except that you won't be only one who has the same idea, so yey there is competition again. Well, maybe at some point that might be realistic, but Classic will probably be dead at that point anyway.

[Thage]

Absolutely not. Grand Marshal/High Warlord requires far more time than I'm able to commit entirely to PvP.

[faithbane]

I got High Warlord on Shadow Council in live Vanilla. It was literally a second job. I think I was the 5th High Warlord on the server. It consisted of ditching out of work early and PvPing 6 hours every night on weekdays and about 12 hrs every weekend day. I did that for two weeks.

Sorry if that was your experience going to high warlord.. you had it really REALLY easy and you were on a very unpopulated server. We had to share accounts and calculate honor gained compared to other people, set alarms to get up to put in our 12 hours of farming a day etc.. for 2-3 weeks just to go from rank 13 to 14 lol

[lonely zergling]

Will go for atleast rank 12 and maybe 13 on my hunter. Dont care about rank 14 tbh. If only they would offer actual good range weapons at 14...

[Hottage]

Speaking from personal experience:

Fuck doing that shit again.

[Boricha]

Nah. I'll definitely do a lot of pvp, but I can't commit that kind of time anymore.

[sgschult]

yea it's glorious lol

they are not in their final 1.12 version i don't think tho.

They will be released in their 1.12 version when they become available as confirmed by blue post. Just google 'wow classic pvp gear'. It's important to note that most of this will be extremely difficult to get until phase 3 when BGs come out. BWL is in phase 3.

[netherflame]

Lose as in you can’t equip it anymore because your rank is below the required level.

Once you get it you get it, the only gate is set on the purchase.

[rionalgaming]

dont think they should bring it back at all.