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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    It depends on what you mean by "damage".

    Porn addiction is a thing, and as @Raybourne brought up, it is also desensitizing the reward center for sex. (the more you watch it the more freaky it gets, and then when you have normal sex its not as interesting, and men have a hard time staying erect); Outside of that making porn is also toxic, a sizable amount of porn actors end up killing themselves, or dying of drug overdoses... and some are also abused physically during filming...
    this is 100% BS, i where in a relationship for 8 years, before this i watched porn literally everyday even 3+ times a day for 10 years, when i had sex first time i came fast as hell, i still watched some fucked up shit while in the relationship and guess what? my GF was super vanilla and i'm into freaky things but that didnt have any effect on my performance what so ever, if something it teached me control so i could give her orgasms before i came, restricting porn is just as stupid as restricting cannabis and no i dont smoke and have never done it lol.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by dead moose fandango View Post
    because not everyone is a prude.
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  3. #163
    Who cares? You do? As a parent? Then it's up to you. And even then you propaply fail, even if you are a wonderful parent. When you reach certain age, you just wanna see some naked people. Human curiosity is pretty strong. Hiding, shielding does not work. Education might. Tell them what it is. What it does? Why try to fight against free will?

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.
    No it's not, as a young teen I was steered clear of Porn, so as an Artist, I just drew my own. No matter what you do, like life, they will find a way. Also I'd rather let my Kids (if I had any) see nude images, or two people in the act of making love (in context) then letting them watch any current violent movies or shows on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.
    It's sinful and harmful in the same way marijuana is sinful or harmful.

    SPOILER: It's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Study Sees Link Between Porn and Sexual Dysfunction
    https://www.webmd.com/sex/news/20170...al-dysfunction
    Connal, I would like to point out that particular study focused on individuals with a porn addiction. Most of those people are watching or beating off to it MULTIPLE times a day. This is not the standard individual that views porn. An overabundance of anything is not going to be good ever. And, these were all individuals that preferred masturbating to porn as opposed to sex with a partners.

    That article's title is click-baity and not completely accurate.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Icechaosss View Post
    I meant - Actual rape in pornography, not like "Rape fantasies"
    Oh, I see. Misunderstood you.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    the question I have to this is: Why do responsible adults try to assume otherwise then? There has to be a good reason.
    No there doesn't.

  8. #168
    Why would you want to get rid of porn? Define "youth"? Honest questions.

  9. #169
    Yes, it is possible... quit making a big deal about it. The thing with kids, teenagers in particular, is that banning something automatically entices them to do it. Take drinking for example, back when I was younger there was all this crap about how I should not drink underage and blah blah blah. All it did was make me want to drink to see what all the fuss was about. Sure I had some bad experiences when I was drunk, but I drank more between the ages of 18-20 than I did between 21-30 probably. Because after 21 it was not such a big deal because it was no longer "forbidden fruit". I had a professor in college that used this trick on her kids to get them to eat Brussels Sprouts. She simply told them "You can't have them, they are an adult food" which made them want them all that much more.

    The other thing is be honest about it. Don't lie because the minute you do you lose any an all credibility. You could say things like "Pornography is not the greatest thing in the world because it generally only depicts emotionless sex that in no way mimics an actual sexual relationship, let alone a deeper one" or that it "creates a narrow view on sex that you should explore on your own when you get a little older." You could also used body image problems that can crop up since the ones created by fashion magazines and such are no different than those that arise from porn.

  10. #170
    If all the porn would be removed from existence there would only be one website left: Bringusbacktheporn.org
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  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    So, you’re against marriage?

    The divorce rate for religious people is a lot lower than non-religious. Unless we’re getting into nihilism where nothing matters. Then you can’t disagree that religion is better for more stable families and relationships. It’s factual. I’m not even religious, but I don’t refute actual facts.
    Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one.

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    Not sure if troll or actually serious?

    Why do you care? I think being religious and believing in God is sinful, because it´s a kind of insanity, but hey, I don´t try to ban the Church, do whatever you want, I´m cool as long as you do not bother me


    So this about porno and many other topics.. really, how does it affect you?

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Yes there is, and it's to make it illegal with incredibly harsh punishments. That's how we did it for crack cocaine.
    Of course crack is illegal so the ground work was already done and is not even close to the same thing. People could just stop being so prudish and acting like we should live in shame of our and other naked bodies. As that happens the desire to see things and novelty goes away.
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  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by The King in Yellow View Post
    If all the porn would be removed from existence there would only be one website left: Bringusbacktheporn.org
    Wrong, people would just make more.
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    People just want to be bullies without facing any sort of consequences or social fallout for being a bully. If you declare X as a racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. person you can say or do whatever you want to them, ignoring the fact that they are a human.

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Yes there is, and it's to make it illegal with incredibly harsh punishments. That's how we did it for crack cocaine.
    I hope you're joking. Both are now cheaper and more available than ever. Creating a black market is rarely a good idea.

  16. #176
    The only real issue with porn is unrealistic expectations, but the act of masturbating to something is not at all harmful, the opposite actually. By masturbating, you're strengthening your penis. Blood rushes into the penis, which oxygenates your penis' smooth muscle. Ejaculation after masturbation is also a good method for your body to rid of older sperm, which is why people who tend not to masturbate as much have more wet dreams.

    There's really no need to censor the youth, at least not in such a broad category as everyone below the age of 18, which is biologically speaking, just an arbitrary number in late adolescence. Adolescents, in general, are basically programmed to want to leave the nest and form sexual relations, so I'm not sure trying to repress that would lead to such a great outcome. Better to roll with nature than to try to stop it, at least when it's not detrimental to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I was talking about porn addiction. But even in moderation it may have negative consequences, as it mostly conveys unrealistic expectations.

    I’m not looking to ban porn however; watching it should be up to each person, but they should also be aware that it has consequences.
    That's a fair statement. And thank you for such a measured response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly3685 View Post
    Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one.
    Well, to be fair, in many situations it's both.

    And replying to the dude you replied to, the reason the divorce rate is lower for religious couples is not because they are more stable due to their beliefs, it's because their religion says that divorce is wrong and they allow themselves often to be trapped in a relationship they aren't entirely happy with anymore because that's what their beliefs mandate.

    Ironically, studies have shown that statistically, evangelicals are more likely to be unfaithful than atheists.

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    With no porn how will I find inventive new things to stick up my butt?

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Polly3685 View Post
    Marriage is a legal institution not a religious one.
    This varies and is often in the US both, not an either-or situation. When I was married in a church it was also considered a legal proceeding. If you like you can also go to the courthouse and keep it strictly legal. The few weddings I've attended in Europe the legal and religious ceremonies were separate entities. There's no absolute rule on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakshana View Post
    Ironically, studies have shown that statistically, evangelicals are more likely to be unfaithful than atheists.
    Like Baby Boomers bitching Millennials and that generation are destroying the American family when the divorce rate for Millennials is much lower than for Boomers. In fact the general trend of divorce rate is that it is declining overall even though for the Boomer demographic specifically it is actually going up.
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  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakshana View Post
    That's a fair statement. And thank you for such a measured response.

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    Well, to be fair, in many situations it's both.

    And replying to the dude you replied to, the reason the divorce rate is lower for religious couples is not because they are more stable due to their beliefs, it's because their religion says that divorce is wrong and they allow themselves often to be trapped in a relationship they aren't entirely happy with anymore because that's what their beliefs mandate.

    Ironically, studies have shown that statistically, evangelicals are more likely to be unfaithful than atheists.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Knight View Post
    This varies and is often in the US both, not an either-or situation. When I was married in a church it was also considered a legal proceeding. If you like you can also go to the courthouse and keep it strictly legal. The few weddings I've attended in Europe the legal and religious ceremonies were separate entities. There's no absolute rule on this.



    Like Baby Boomers bitching Millennials and that generation are destroying the American family when the divorce rate for Millennials is much lower than for Boomers. In fact the general trend of divorce rate is that it is declining overall even though for the Boomer demographic specifically it is actually going up.
    Because the ceremony was performed in a church doesn't make it a religious institution. You have to get a license issued by the state to be legally married. Marriage affects property rights, child custody, insurance benefits, etc, etc... Who someone can and cannot marry is dictated buy law not by religious dogma. The process of ending a marriage is a legal proceeding. Do I need to keep going?

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