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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    How is porn a reward? It's a means to an end, lack of porn isn't going to stop people masturbating.
    The pleasure of sexual stimulation from porn is a reward in psychological terms.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    The pleasure of sexual stimulation from porn is a reward in psychological terms.
    You don't need porn to get that, I can assure you people have achieved that with their imaginations for thousands of years. You're confusing masturbation with porn.
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  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    the question I have to this is: Why do responsible adults try to assume otherwise then? There has to be a good reason.
    A large portion of those "responsible adults" also believe in talking bushes. I don't think they are authorities on right and wrong.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    You don't need porn to get that, I can assure you people have achieved that with their imaginations for thousands of years. You're confusing masturbation with porn.
    When did I say you needed porn to get that? I never confused masturbation with porn - are you sure you read what I wrote?

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    Yes there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    You can't think of a single thing wrong with it?
    If everyone involved is a consenting adult, no.

    The trouble is, if the actresses and actors are victims of human trafficking, which is a huge problem, but not specific to porn. If they're instead willing participants, then I don't see a problem.
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  6. #226
    Woman up wimp.

    1. Stop being a religious zealot;

    2. Don't let kids under Xyz age access to the net at your home;

    3. Have the talk;

    Whatever you do... they'll get their hands on porn... from playing cards, to magazines, to VHS, to HP Basic ASCII arts, the neighbor kid, the cousin (if you're in the USA), name it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne01 View Post
    I’ve reached the age where I can finally admit that porn has fucked me up a lot. What I don’t know is if that’s something that has to do with me personally or humans in general. Either way if I could go back to young me I would have tried to stop it.
    Good news is you can, and it's quicker than you would think. It's like stopping a drug, just a psychological one, you'd need a strong counter measure, because your brain will let you know "why aren't you doing that thing that made me feel so great". Like any habit, when you stop you'll realize it wasn't much to begin with. You'll get an appreciation for the opposite sex that is healthier. Listen, I talk to girls...they know when somebody watches porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipaq View Post
    Woman up wimp.

    1. Stop being a religious zealot;

    2. Don't let kids under Xyz age access to the net at your home;

    3. Have the talk;

    Whatever you do... they'll get their hands on porn... from playing cards, to magazines, to VHS, to HP Basic ASCII arts, the neighbor kid, the cousin (if you're in the USA), name it.
    Maybe, but there's a difference between creating a foundation for them to procreate in a healthy manner, and just saying "the hell with it, there going to see it anyway".

  8. #228
    Is there any way to get rid of interest in a naturally occurring, basic human desire which is necessary for the survival of our species? No. No there isn't, thankfully.

  9. #229
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    Tragically no, I think the genie is out of the bottle. The good news is I have another 7ish years in which i can be a cam girl and maybe sell panties for some side cash.
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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I know in the US we try to teach older kids to steer their eyes away from pornography for their own good because it's sinful or harmful, but it seems futile based on the amount of sex-crazed teenagers on average. Parents and teachers still try if the movement of censorship against porn is any indication, but with how sexual content is so integrated into pop culture and all over the internet, it makes me wonder if it's just a losing battle and if it's pointless to even try.
    The main problem is people seeing porn as a bad thing, nudity/sex is human biological need for most, you would have more problems if people didnt have access to porn as people would find other ways to get access to it.
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  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Tragically no, I think the genie is out of the bottle. The good news is I have another 7ish years in which i can be a cam girl and maybe sell panties for some side cash.
    I heard they have these pantie vending machines in Japan. I wonder how the guy feels after he takes a couple of whiffs. I can see his ego shrink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The main problem is people seeing porn as a bad thing, nudity/sex is human biological need for most, you would have more problems if people didnt have access to porn as people would find other ways to get access to it.
    This is just a nice spin idea on the idea of nudity. This has nothing to do with the beauty of the human body, you'd quickly know this when you see nudity in art, as it's intended to be. It is a bastardization of the act of two bodies coming together and essentially performing the miracle of life. It meant much more, and means much more than how a lot of people perceive it today, as a laid back idea of just doing another individual, and the funny thing is everyone who wacks off to porn knows this, and just has to tell themselves these kind of lies to not crumble as an individual. For example, if we took a step back, and viewed this act from an outside perspective, it would be the equivalent of a dog humping a shag carpet.
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  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    When did I say you needed porn to get that? I never confused masturbation with porn - are you sure you read what I wrote?
    Pretty sure, the pleasure of sexual stimulation doesn't come from porn, nor is porn the reward. Porn is a means to an end, one of many that can serve the same purpose.
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  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    This is just a nice spin idea on the idea of nudity. This has nothing to do with the beauty of the human body, you'd quickly know this when you see nudity in art, as it's intended to be. It is a bastardization of the act of two bodies coming together and essentially performing the miracle of life. It meant much more, and means much more than how a lot of people perceive it today, as a laid back idea of just doing another individual, and the funny thing is everyone who wacks off to porn knows this, and just has to tell themselves these kind of lies to not crumble as an individual. For example, if we took a step back, and viewed this act from an outside perspective, it would be the equivalent of a dog humping a shag carpet.
    Porn is still art, both performance and art is static pictures, sex is not always about creating life its about pleasure also. The main problem is various religious groups trying to deem it wrong and sinful when religion itself has cost more death and destruction than anything else.
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  14. #234
    No, OP, unless goverment can do mass mind control it is not possible. Better teach kids that there is such thing as too much porn (addiction to it is not that uncommon) and make sure that they get their sex ed. If anything, probably midget transgender furry porn is also not the thing to start with...
    And, most importantly - teach them the difference between real life and the fantasy that is porn.
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    I consume it, but I really do not think it is something great or something to be proud of.

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    Pretty sure, the pleasure of sexual stimulation doesn't come from porn, nor is porn the reward. Porn is a means to an end, one of many that can serve the same purpose.
    We're talking about porn, not the general category of sexual stimulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimReaper673 View Post
    What the actual fuck...?
    Who would have thought consuming higher-intensity stimuli would desensitize someone!

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    To a few people it is an issue of seeing sex as a sacred/divine act, or an act of pleasure.

    India has the kama sutra which mixed them into one... but they also only had statues,drawings of nudity and sex acts, not full on videos of it. Orgies existed, but also usually as divine rites (in the temple of Aphrodite, for instance) and when they took place in bath houses... well, people saw that as depraved back then as well...

    Sex is at the same time cheap, and commonplace in our culture, and to the people that cannot get it, such a valuable thing that they kill for it, or obsess over it.
    Ok, so it is many things, but I suppose I would rather take the side that sees it as a sacred thing. I'm not saying this is the "right" thing, and your insight certainly has a point. I actually do not understand the idea of having free spirited sex. The idea of being inside somebody I did not know doesn't appeal to me at all. Though, I can see why it's an appealing enterprise. One of the best feeling in the world with no responsibility?
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  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I agree that seeing it as "divine" is the right approach. But I also like the Indian approach that figured out how to mix the divine with pleasure... *shrug* . Unfortunately in our culture the divine is dead... at least for now...
    Well, the divine idea doesn't negate pleasure at all, it just promotes a more responsible take on it. I would guess spirituality is in flux in America right now. It is entering the Yin phase, but there will always be those who stay in the Yang state. They'd most likely die before they acknowledge the opposite.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    We're talking about porn, not the general category of sexual stimulation.
    You're confusing watching porn with the rewards of sexual stimulation. Watching porn isn't a reward, it's one of many means to an end. The end is the reward (or relief?), not the porn itself. How many times does that have to be reworded before you tackle that point, if ever?
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  19. #239
    I mean, if you don't like porn don't watch it. Don't let your kids watch it. But by no means should you try to enforce your own personal beliefs on other people who don't share your mindset.

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    I mean, if you don't like porn don't watch it. Don't let your kids watch it. But by no means should you try to enforce your own personal beliefs on other people who don't share your mindset.
    It's not as simple as that. It's like saying "well, heroin is destructive, but we shouldn't really have any say on those who decide to shoot up". I happen to think civilization is taking it so lightly that its fundamentally changing our culture on the down low.

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