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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoy View Post
    Benthic gear have predetermined stats, meaning there is no RNG to which stats you will get on each slot.
    Are this stats linked to armor type or specialization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoy View Post
    Benthic gear have predetermined stats, meaning there is no RNG to which stats you will get on each slot.
    Are this stats linked to armor type or specialization?

  3. #23
    Are stats on Benthic gear linked to armor type or specialization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zetitup View Post
    And the question is, how long does it take to get each piece to 430...
    I bet you have 430 ilvl before you get each piece from the vendor
    Probably a bit who knows, the one thing I have heard is that they are not littering the new zones with world quests, rather you get three quests each day to do and that is it.. Though I think the other way to get the new currency is by killing the rares..

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    I could imagine they are "mandatory" if you want every little bit of an edge in the World 1st race. And yea...this resistance / damage to aberrations thingy had me wondering and it could be helpful to anyone trying to crack a specific bossfight. Just like we eventually could beat MC without mindcontroling those guys and fire res buffing the raid or without Onyxia's / Nefarian's head up in Orgrimmar etc etc...but at the beginning it sure helped.

    Then again, there were examples where the guilds with lower average ilv won etc....

    No matter what, the guilds that seriously think they have a chance of competing will likely do ANYTHING that they consider as a benefit in the competition.
    Yeah, ofc I meant in order to achieve the world first ( don't really care about those who will achieve it after nerfs or better equipment ).
    It seems like the old good AQ, when instead of trying the bosses the players were forced to obtain NR gear.

    Seems like a way to timegate, but maybe I am just overthinking.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by dragothica View Post
    Benthic gear not having RNG is such a lie, when you still buy Tokens from the vendor which turn into items with unknown stats at the moment of purchase.

    Why can't they just add gear as visible items to the vendor when there is still the option to filter items for your spec only? They did it in TBC already. Is it some kind of database thing, which saves someone 1 hour of development time from copy-pasting items to the vendors spreadsheet?
    The stats are fixed. I assume they did tokens so that they did not have to put cloth mail leather plate on the vendor, it will be the armor type of the toon that uses it. I am curious, if the head shoulders chest are azerite items or just items with secondary stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooti View Post
    I am curious, if the head shoulders chest are azerite items or just items with secondary stats.
    Probably they won't be azerite items, also given the fact that head, shoulders and chest are the only 3 slots which doesn't give a new bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatto View Post
    Yeah, ofc I meant in order to achieve the world first ( don't really care about those who will achieve it after nerfs or better equipment ).
    It seems like the old good AQ, when instead of trying the bosses the players were forced to obtain NR gear.

    Seems like a way to timegate, but maybe I am just overthinking.
    The accusation of timegating seems to be the newest thing and I always wonder if people had their memories erased or just didn't care "in the good old days".

    FOURTY+ Onyxia cloaks to have a chance in BWL? Fire resistance in MC? Mag not being possible for mere mortals without enough hunters that got the tranq shot skill (forgot if it dropped from a boss before or how they got it). AQ with nat res gear? C'thun bugged. Rep gate or entry fee to enter Naxx. ("Hey guys, you are only prepared to take out this evil that threatens to kill everything when we revere you or you pay 200 gold"...or whatever it was back then. What a ridiculous timegate) Long ass attunement in BT including limited quest items dropping from Lady V and KT initially. Shadow res gear for Mother Shazz in BT. LITERALLY time gating by releasing portals to SWP only after a certain time. Arthas being pretty much unkillable before the zone buff arrived.

    The list goes on - and by my definition these are all timegates

    If anything, the resistance gear could be another grind, because I think by the time the average (or good) mythic guild gets to the point where they need it, they spend enough time in the raid already to casually acquire it (you only need to check the last few raid tiers, how few guilds actually go anywhere)
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    Quote Originally Posted by THCRaven View Post
    If they can proc socket and leech it is going to turn into another slot machine.

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    430 should be heroic of azshara eternal palace unless they jump higher with the ilvl, but if it cannot socket it won't be worth as much.
    It will be a heroic loot? damn the more i hear the more i like it.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    The accusation of "timegating" seems to be the newest thing and I always wonder if people had their memories erased or just didn't care "in the good old days".
    Oh no, it's just your assumption ( I didn't like it before, and so do I now ).

    We also will have to see when the raid will be open ( I didn't read anything about, but I doubt bliz would like to release too much content altogether. Won't definitelybe good for them ).

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    8.2 and benthic gear will not save bfa..

    classic is the only thing that save wow this year!
    My server is still super active looks saved to me already before even patch comes out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatto View Post
    Oh no, it's just your assumption ( I didn't like it before, and so do I now ).

    We also will have to see when the raid will be open ( I didn't read anything about, but I doubt bliz would like to release too much content altogether. Won't definitelybe good for them ).
    Yeah, they usually don't have the raid up on day 1 of a patch, if memory serves me correctly. Well, unless the first tier comes shipped with the new x-pac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker1 View Post
    My server is still super active looks saved to me already before even patch comes out!
    But don't you know? It is anecdotal evidence or because of CRZ or because there is that one capital to go for each faction or because you lie or you are just a blind fanboi white night Bli$$ard love and even when the game had 8 or 10 or 12 million subs, it still was beyond redemption and dead...because "cannot be saved" means whatever the person who says it imagines it to be.

    Trust be...I have been here for over 10 years and read it all. The game is dead when subs rise and the game is dead when subs decline. https://alunariasavenue.files.wordpr...2017/07/29.jpg - the ironic thing is that the website didn't even survive WoW

  13. #33
    It's a little bit early for catch-up gear.. Let people go through the motions of WQs/m0 and LFR, etc.

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    The gearing system at least looks better than Timeless Isle's. It's similar, but you can target slots, which is incredibly appreciated.

    The BoA upgrade tokens are also interesting, cuz if you have large numbers of alts you do the Nazjatar dailies on you can funnel upgrades to one character, if you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebottom View Post
    It's a little bit early for catch-up gear.. Let people go through the motions of WQs/m0 and LFR, etc.
    It's not early. This is the equivalent patch to 7.2, which had catch-up gear, and 8.2 is going to be coming later than 7.2 did in Legion, in all likelihood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebottom View Post
    It's a little bit early for catch-up gear.. Let people go through the motions of WQs/m0 and LFR, etc.
    That would be a bit of a gamble considering how many MAU's they are losing atm.
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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by dragothica View Post
    Benthic gear not having RNG is such a lie, when you still buy Tokens from the vendor which turn into items with unknown stats at the moment of purchase.

    Why can't they just add gear as visible items to the vendor when there is still the option to filter items for your spec only? They did it in TBC already. Is it some kind of database thing, which saves someone 1 hour of development time from copy-pasting items to the vendors spreadsheet?
    They don’t want to let the casino system go away as it keeps people playing and playing until they finally get a shot to their new token. It’s like what you had for your boss loot before but extended to all in game rewards.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by zetitup View Post
    And the question is, how long does it take to get each piece to 430...
    I bet you have 430 ilvl before you get each piece from the vendor
    If 430 is heroic gear then that will probably be the gear you get for completing Mythic+10. So yeah, if you run enough Mythic+ dungeons you can be at 430 in the first ID.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Axxil View Post
    most delusional response of the week.
    It's pretty accurate. I'll never play BFA again. I will play classic,though, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    The accusation of "timegating" seems to be the newest thing and I always wonder if people had their memories erased or just didn't care "in the good old days".

    The list goes on - and by my definition these are all "timegates"

    If anything, the resistance gear could be another grind, because I think by the time the average (or good) mythic guild gets to the point where they need it, they spend enough time in the raid already to casually acquire it (you only need to check the last few raid tiers, how few guilds actually go anywhere)
    put "timegating" in quotes and imply is a hater acquasition
    make your own definition grained with whataboutism about vanilla (you guys seem to have fixitation with that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaito92 View Post
    put "timegating" in quotes and imply is a hater acquasition
    make your own definition grained with whataboutism about vanilla (you guys seem to have fixitation with that).
    200 IQ and a good noodle star from lore
    That is your entirely your interpretation of the quotation marks. But since it seems to imply that, I shall go back and remove them. I have no emotion either way, I just think there always were things that could be considered time gates. And obviously we all make our own definitions...because when I type this into google, I immediately get threads suggested that include WoW. No independent definition and no agreement over the term in WoW threads.

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