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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    Because addons like that would be pretty redundant, I'm pretty confident someone is going to build some rudimentary group finder addon for Classic unless Blizzard blocks that from happening.
    Sure, there will definitely be "group finder" addons, but I doubt very many people will use them, just like what happens with vQueue. Vanilla players know to use world chat / general chat.
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    LFR is not really easy. I would say it's a lot harder thant Mythic Dungeons
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    100% people will find a way to do group-finder and RIO type addons
    Almost every server had a player driven global "lfg" channel, so if someone makes an addon for that i dont really have a problem with it. In most cases more or less stable groups will form out of it like the pre work ubrs group we ran on Eredar-EU. Seven to ten nerds gathered 4 days a week at five in the morning and ran ubrs together and it started with the player lfg channel.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Didly View Post
    I'm curious how the Classic community feels about bringing modern day addons to Classic. Addons like Elv, DBM, Healbot, etc. are undoubtedly helpful, and have vastly expanded features over classic raid mods like CT.

    Do you feel this somehow takes away from the "classic experience?"

    Will you be running any sort of addons like this in Classic?
    The only one I am going to use is what ever the best quest helper becomes.
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  4. #64
    Whether you support them or not you'd better believe they'll be there.

    I support it since someone mentioned there's one for mailboxes/AH modern streamlining. I'll take that in a heartbeat.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    Sure, there will definitely be "group finder" addons, but I doubt very many people will use them, just like what happens with vQueue. Vanilla players know to use world chat / general chat.
    This won't be just "Vanilla" players though.

  6. #66
    im sure older addons will be ported and new addons will pop up, im going to use whatever works best and not really give a shit if it's a new or old style of addon.

    the only addon they should disable are lfg style addons. use the chat if you want to lfg.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    I see stuff like this all the time, and none of that is even close to true. I had a ton of addons in 2006, almost everyone did. I dont doubt there will be better boss addons in classic but dont forget the API was also broken in vanilla to the point of scripting being able to automate your character, negating any skill level advantage that happened with the invent of razer nagas over the years.

    There were nearly 8 mil players at the end of 2006, not everyone was a mouthbreather and most things about the game were known.
    Exactly this. Everyone who says he didn't use addons back then was either not a raider, is simply lying or never played vanilla. Boss-Timers even existed back then, and yes, addons were so advanced back in 1.11-1.12 that even automatic play was possible. There were farming bots, entirely made out of the wow-api without much or any external interference.

    Vanilla was full of addons; this was actually one of the charms of wow back then; because the stock-ui was horrible and you can't play wow without addons at all. Effective healing in Vanilla was IMPOSSIBLE with the classic raid frames. Luckily this seems not to be much of an concern anymore, since blizzard doesn't plan to bring the classic-raidframes back.

  8. #68
    When you say modern addons you're referring to the developers, not the ingame API that supports the creation of addons.

    The API used in BfA and Classic is so restricted compared to how it used to be in vanilla so a lot of things you could do with addons in 2005 are no longer possible.

    Developers on the other hand have gotten a lot better at creating addons so they may have functionality that you though impossible back in 2005 or be to user friendly so that anyone can understand and configure them.

    So your question is really if developers should be allowed to use their skill and knowledge to create addons for Classic. I think they should, who's going to stop them?

  9. #69
    No problem at all considering there were a lot of advanced addons used in Vanilla.

  10. #70
    Personally will use stuff like Bagnon, Atlas Loot, X-Perl etc, if they are available.

  11. #71
    You could do about the same in classic as you can today, just require alot more scripting and your own database for stuff.
    I don't mind addons, partially since i make them myself as a hobby.
    Its down to your own preference, if you don't like addons don't get them.
    But todays society everyone gets offended if they see something they don't like, so instead of closing the page or whatnot they hit the socialmedia.
    Im happy if they don't fully support auctionhouse api for classic mainly due to making servers lagg (if they sorted the lagg for AH im fine with that API aswell)

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by zyrr View Post
    You could do about the same in classic as you can today, just require alot more scripting and your own database for stuff.
    I don't mind addons, partially since i make them myself as a hobby.
    Its down to your own preference, if you don't like addons don't get them.
    But todays society everyone gets offended if they see something they don't like, so instead of closing the page or whatnot they hit the socialmedia.
    Im happy if they don't fully support auctionhouse api for classic mainly due to making servers lagg (if they sorted the lagg for AH im fine with that API aswell)
    You could do a lot more in classic than you can do today.

    Macros could make decisions by checking if an ability was on cooldown or if you had enough mana or energy to use an ability, and then either casting a different ability that was not on cooldown or using a lower rank spell that you had enough mana to cast.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    This won't be just "Vanilla" players though.
    Majority of it will be, since all of the retail kiddies won't make it past level 10/20 before ragequitting the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by zyrr View Post
    You could do about the same in classic as you can today
    Nah, there were lots of really broken (powerful) macros in vanilla. Mostly conditional statements, like you could make macros that cast different spells based on whether or not you have a buff, or if a buff had a certain duration, etc.

    Like right now I have a macro that will:

    -cast Seal of Righteousness
    -cast Judgement but only if Seal is active
    -cast Seal of Righteousness only if Seal of Righteousness has less than 10 seconds remaining

    You can't do something like that in retail; those things are protected functions.
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    LFR saved raiding
    Quote Originally Posted by Haekke View Post
    LFR is not really easy. I would say it's a lot harder thant Mythic Dungeons
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  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Zensunni View Post
    100% people will find a way to do group-finder and RIO type addons, even if they run outside the game, and they will be prevalent. Anyone that isn't ready for this is deluding themselves.
    Of course they will. The API will allow it and there was even groupfinder in vanilla, people just can't remember it because it was faulty at release.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by lollerlaban View Post
    Of course they will. The API will allow it and there was even groupfinder in vanilla, people just can't remember it because it was faulty at release.
    Group finder add-ons will be a lot less useful because there won't be any form of cross server play and you will know your own servers community in no time. There won't be 300 different good tanks, there will be 30-40 and the ones you like will be in your friend list. I don't really see much use for an addon. General chat will work just fine for small communities like these servers.

  16. #76
    People will port over modern Addons and people will use them. To be honest I don't care since Stuff like Decursive and ManaReserve won't work anymore with the new API anyways.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    If it was down to me, i'd ban every add-on except UI and some quality of life add-ons.
    so, in other words, you would allow every addon.. all addons are either UI or quality of life.

  18. #78
    I really don't think modern wow mods will change much... I know that isn't a popular opinion but people seem to forget just how absurdly powerful some mods where in classic like heal bot and decursive where blizzard had to actually break them.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    Majority of it will be, since all of the retail kiddies won't make it past level 10/20 before ragequitting the game.



    Nah, there were lots of really broken (powerful) macros in vanilla. Mostly conditional statements, like you could make macros that cast different spells based on whether or not you have a buff, or if a buff had a certain duration, etc.

    Like right now I have a macro that will:

    -cast Seal of Righteousness
    -cast Judgement but only if Seal is active
    -cast Seal of Righteousness only if Seal of Righteousness has less than 10 seconds remaining

    You can't do something like that in retail; those things are protected functions.
    Oh you're one of those. Carry on then.

  20. #80
    There are no thoughts. Addons were part of vanilla.

    And pretty sure people will create LFG addons just to piss off purists.

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