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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Fixxit the Gnome View Post
    The only thing shocking about this is that I vividly remember that this song is in The Aristocats!?
    I think that's a different song? Though I'm sure I remember a scene from Aristocrats with a cat literally pulling a "slanty eye" face while holding chopsticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    maybe better work on undoing that stigma then. might help your case.

    What stigma? I don't recall saying anything about the original. Nor am I here crying that they are changing it in a remake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    What stigma? I don't recall saying anything about the original. Nor am I here crying that they are changing it in a remake.
    neither am I, since I don't care for any of these live action remakes. I just find it funny seeing the identity politics used to justify such changes.

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    Also, this is Disney's property. They are allowed to do what they want with it.

    Why are conservatives so hellbent on forcing people to do what they want them to with their own property?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I mean, heres the thing, and I can't make this more direct. I am not going to see any of disneys craptastic live action remakes, I am not going to spend money on something that is only being designed so disney can profit off of their need to retain the licence on their properties, which is why this bullshit live action craze was started in the first place.

    That said, given the hyper overly sensitive snowflake times we live in today, where so much as a joke online can be taken so out of context it costs people their jobs, its very obvious why disney decided to do this. They know the maw of the beast in this current era, don't wanna piss off the snowflake generation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    neither am I, since I don't care for any of these live action remakes. I just find it funny seeing the identity politics used to justify such changes.
    I bet to differ. You are very much crying that they are changing it.
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    It's a kid's movie about dogs falling in love and eating spaghetti. This isn't some sacrosanct material here, people. Why would you care if they change it?

    Why leave in the racist caricatures singing? Does it add anything to the film?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    TLDW This was a disclaimer in a looney tunes collection..Whoopie over here basically said "Hey there are some racist jokes on this collection..it was a product of the time, they were wrong then and wrong now but removing them is basically saying it never happened"

    Basically...yeah the Siamese cat song is mildly racist...but it was from 1955..so yeah it was racist removing is just closing your ears and saying "NOPE NOPE WE WERE NEVER RACIST EVER"

    ..let it be the example don't scrub it out
    They aren't removing it from the original, they're just not adding it to the new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinBash View Post
    Fuck who cares? They're Siamese cats man. Only these clowns would think removing Asian characters is 'less racist' than having Asian characters do Asian things.
    What? They're cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    I bet to differ. You are very much crying that they are changing it.
    Oh come now, you know Traask and their false outrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinBash View Post
    Fuck who cares? They're Siamese cats man. Only these clowns would think removing Asian characters is 'less racist' than having Asian characters do Asian things.
    "asian things."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    I bet to differ. You are very much crying that they are changing it.
    think your digging friend, I honestly don't give a shit about it, just highlighting some facts about why they decided to make such changes. I know, its hard to see the wood for the trees sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayirasi View Post
    Disney can suck on these Siamese nuts. I'm not seeing anything offensive about:

    We are Siamese if you please
    We are Siamese if you don't please
    We are former residents of Siam
    There are no finer cat than I am

    Do you see what I see with my eyes?
    People have been baking up some pies
    Peeping jumping up upon their window
    Though delicious spice we could get into

    Who is that who is living in that wire house
    It must be a bird because it's not a mouse
    If we're sneakin' up upon it carefully
    There will be some bird for you and some for me

    Do you seeing that thing swimming round and round?
    Maybe we could reaching in and make it drown
    If we're sneakin' up upon it carefully
    There will be some fish for you and some for me
    Not seeing how that's racist.

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  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Not seeing how that's racist.
    I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?

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    So erm..... what exactly is wrong with the original? I find them quite entertaining.... One of the few things I liked about the film.

    I always saw them as mischievous, sneaky, yet clever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?
    In the film they're thieving, mischievous cats that antagonize the protagonists for fun and are depicted with slanted eyes and a stereotypical asian accent.

    In 1955, the "mischievous chinaman" (interchangeable for any east-asian at the time, and almost always played or depicted by white people, even in live action) stereotype was very much a Hollywood trope. It's basically one small step removed from blackface.

    Disney has apparently decided that such depictions probably wouldn't sit too well with people in 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Not seeing how that's racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?
    Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see them saying the song itself is racist. I see them saying they need a new song as they won't have the Siamese cats in the new film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Not seeing how that's racist.
    its because rather then actually being racist, the current generation reads into it as being so, because the cats have 'asian' shaped eyes and accents, and 'cultural appropriation' wants it to be so.
    I grew up having watched the animated movie many times, never once did I put talking cats as being racist stereotypes



    And if it didn't register as being racist in the past with most people, why then does that only become an issue today?

    Maybe because generation snowflake needs to find offense in anything they can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girighet View Post
    I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?
    Or some pedantic SJW's at Disney got loose and decided they want to remove things from their film franchises. Apparently the Lion King remake has one of the songs removed as well.

    Congrats to the 11 fools who made the ignore list, your ignorance knows no bounds, bravo!

  17. #77
    Why can't people just grasp the idea that things were a product of its time? This backtrack pandering is just downright pathetic. Learn from history, and carry on from there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Not seeing how that's racist.
    The buck teeth and slant eyes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    The buck teeth and slant eyes....
    They're cats......
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    Stranger: Indeed?
    Cassilda: Indeed, it's time. We have all laid aside disguise but you.
    Stranger: I wear no mask.
    Camilla: (Terrified, aside to Cassilda.) No mask? No mask!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    In the film they're thieving, mischievous cats that antagonize the protagonists for fun and are depicted with slanted eyes and a stereotypical asian accent.

    In 1955, the "mischievous chinaman" (interchangeable for any east-asian at the time, and almost always played or depicted by white people, even in live action) stereotype was very much a Hollywood trope. It's basically one small step removed from blackface.

    Disney has apparently decided that such depictions probably wouldn't sit too well with people in 2019.
    Hence why I said maybe lost in translation. I've only seen the swedish version. They're siamese cats, not asian people.

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