Disney pulls another silly

[Kaleredar]

I bet to differ. You are very much crying that they are changing it.

Oh come now, you know Traask and their false outrage.

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Fuck who cares? They're Siamese cats man. Only these clowns would think removing Asian characters is 'less racist' than having Asian characters do Asian things.

"asian things."

[Trassk]

I bet to differ. You are very much crying that they are changing it.

think your digging friend, I honestly don't give a shit about it, just highlighting some facts about why they decided to make such changes. I know, its hard to see the wood for the trees sometimes.

[Rennadrel]

Disney can suck on these Siamese nuts. I'm not seeing anything offensive about:

We are Siamese if you please
We are Siamese if you don't please
We are former residents of Siam
There are no finer cat than I am

Do you see what I see with my eyes?
People have been baking up some pies
Peeping jumping up upon their window
Though delicious spice we could get into

Who is that who is living in that wire house
It must be a bird because it's not a mouse
If we're sneakin' up upon it carefully
There will be some bird for you and some for me

Do you seeing that thing swimming round and round?
Maybe we could reaching in and make it drown
If we're sneakin' up upon it carefully
There will be some fish for you and some for me

Not seeing how that's racist.

[The King in Yellow]

So erm..... what exactly is wrong with the original? I find them quite entertaining.... One of the few things I liked about the film.

I always saw them as mischievous, sneaky, yet clever.

[Kaleredar]

I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?

In the film they're thieving, mischievous cats that antagonize the protagonists for fun and are depicted with slanted eyes and a stereotypical asian accent.

In 1955, the "mischievous chinaman" (interchangeable for any east-asian at the time, and almost always played or depicted by white people, even in live action) stereotype was very much a Hollywood trope. It's basically one small step removed from blackface.

Disney has apparently decided that such depictions probably wouldn't sit too well with people in 2019.

[Orange Joe]

Not seeing how that's racist.

I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?

Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see them saying the song itself is racist. I see them saying they need a new song as they won't have the Siamese cats in the new film.

[Trassk]

Not seeing how that's racist.

its because rather then actually being racist, the current generation reads into it as being so, because the cats have 'asian' shaped eyes and accents, and 'cultural appropriation' wants it to be so.
I grew up having watched the animated movie many times, never once did I put talking cats as being racist stereotypes



And if it didn't register as being racist in the past with most people, why then does that only become an issue today?

Maybe because generation snowflake needs to find offense in anything they can?

[Rennadrel]

I don't either. Maybe lost in translation?

Or some pedantic SJW's at Disney got loose and decided they want to remove things from their film franchises. Apparently the Lion King remake has one of the songs removed as well.

[Daedius]

Why can't people just grasp the idea that things were a product of its time? This backtrack pandering is just downright pathetic. Learn from history, and carry on from there!

[Themius]

Not seeing how that's racist.

The buck teeth and slant eyes....

[The King in Yellow]

The buck teeth and slant eyes....

They're cats......

[Orange Joe]

They're cats......

Doesn't that make it all the more stupid/racist for them to have buckteeth and slanted eyes then?

[Rennadrel]

its because rather then actually being racist, the current generation reads into it as being so, because the cats have 'asian' shaped eyes and accents, and 'cultural appropriation' wants it to be so.
I grew up having watched the animated movie many times, never once did I put talking cats as being racist stereotypes



And if it didn't register as being racist in the past with most people, why then does that only become an issue today?

Maybe because generation snowflake needs to find offense in anything they can?

Apparently cats that are animated versions of the actual animals are racist now. How absolutely pedantic.

[Kaleredar]

its because rather then actually being racist, the current generation reads into it as being so, because the cats have 'asian' shaped eyes and accents, and 'cultural appropriation' wants it to be so.

While that's not what cultural appropriation means, I know you like slinging buzzwords around more than you care about their actual meaning hoping they'll make your point for you.

Suffice to say, "slanty-eyed, yellow characters that talk with stereotypical asian accent and cause mischief" is pretty well in line with the "yellow scare" trope.

I grew up having watched the animated movie many times, never once did I put talking cats as being racist stereotypes

And if it didn't register as being racist in the past with most people, why then does that only become an issue today?

Arguing that people weren't casually racist in 1955 probably isn't the best hill to die on.

Maybe because generation snowflake needs to find offense in anything they can?

You're getting offended at changing two singing cats in a kid's film.

[Orange Joe]

Apparently cats that are animated versions of the actual animals are racist now. How absolutely pedantic.

What species of cat has slanted eyes and buck teeth?

[The King in Yellow]

Doesn't that make it all the more stupid/racist for them to have buckteeth and slanted eyes then?

I see them as an entertaining part of the film; seriously. They're mischievous cats; which is a trope/characteristic known to this breed of cats. I find it more racist you just see them as "slant eyes with buck teeth"...

But hey; let's just see racist tropes and stereotypes in everything right?

[Aurrora]

Doesn't that make it all the more stupid/racist for them to have buckteeth and slanted eyes then?

Which would be removed in the translation to making them "live action" so nothing racist about it.

[draynay]

I thought the point of the song was that cats are assholes, everything else feels incredibly forced.

[PACOX]

neither am I, since I don't care for any of these live action remakes. I just find it funny seeing the identity politics used to justify such changes.

Who said has anything to do with identity politics? The song is outdated so it doesn't fit in a modern adaption - the language is antiquated. Why people look deeper into these things than what they baffle me.

Like I said earlier. I make logical sense to make a modern adaption of something if you're not going to present it in terms of contemporary culture.

[Orange Joe]

I see them as an entertaining part of the film; seriously. They're mischievous cats; which is a trope/characteristic known to this breed of cats. I find it more racist you just see them as "slant eyes with buck teeth"...

How so? Which race did I tie those features to?