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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Be Draenei

    Settle on primitive world full of shamans worshiping rocks and fire.

    Be so full of yourself that you rename their planet after your race.

    You also have a prophet as a leader who knows for a fact that he is being pursued by space Lucifer and its only a matter of time before space Lucifer catches up

    The orcs and ogres of this world have no greater concept of evil

    And you do absolutely nothing to warn them of the great evil that is coming

    AND IN A MOVE THAT SURPRISED NO ONE SPACE LUCIFER WAS ABLE TO CORRUPT PRIMITIVES

    And because your race remained secluded and hid away from the world instead of trying to coexist with the natural inhabitants, you get purged.

    Oh and the Naaru that you brought to this world is now evil getting up to no good

    Proceed to leave Draenor a fel shattered rock and try to play the victim about it
    Oh,look at that,another bullshit thread from this author! The miles this guy is ready to go,so that he doesn't have to feel bad about playing the horde. Try better next time. Blaming draenei for running away from the Burning Legion,is like blaming the jews for hiding,instead of staying at their homes and awaiting to be killed by nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Orcs are just 1 IQ point above being genocidal robots. Meaning, they genocide whatever and whenever they can, it's a miracle they didn't genocide themselves out of existence.
    Actually,they almost did. If the portal wouldn't open and they wouldn't get a new target - Stormwind - they would eventually kill each other.

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    i agree draenei are evil sinful creatures and sin'dorei are the dominant master race. @Celista

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Moose Fandango View Post
    This just confirms my suspicions. Time-traveling elves are responsible for everything. Clearly, they went back in time and corrupted Sageras. And that led to everything else!
    i will not stand by and listen to you besmirch the good name of elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinBash View Post
    Orcs try to genocide Draenei, it doesn't work and bad things happen. Must be the Draenei's fault.
    damn right it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Humorous how in real world, a certain kingdom's pilgrims did the same thing to a "new world" to the west. We now call that place 'Murica.



    Yeah, in that regard, Draenei are dicks. Velen himself had to own up to that in a way when Illidan threw it in his face during Legion that he is more or less an interstellar coward, running from his problems and vicariously bringing his problems to others' doorsteps, namely Orcs and eventually denizens of Azeroth. The corruption of the Orcs can be blamed solely on Velen and the Draenei and justifiably so.



    Pretty much on point.
    funny those people originally came from england.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merie View Post
    Dranei knees are bent the wrong way. Nuff said.
    plus they are space hussies.
    r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
    i will never forgive you for this blizzard.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    BECAUSE said space lucifer corrupted the orcs and made them do it
    >made them

    They literally chose to drink the Fel Blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Technically, Grond was created from a Draenor mountain and the living elements of the planet, so, everyone who came from it is native, not alien
    The Titan-forged are typically made of the substance of the world they're created on, the same is true for the Titan constructs made on Azeroth - they're made of the stone and metals of the Azeroth. That doesn't really change the fact that they were created by literal alien demigods who arrived on both worlds from space. They didn't evolve naturally from creatures native to their respective worlds.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    The Titan-forged are typically made of the substance of the world they're created on, the same is true for the Titan constructs made on Azeroth - they're made of the stone and metals of the Azeroth. That doesn't really change the fact that they were created by literal alien demigods who arrived on both worlds from space. They didn't evolve naturally from creatures native to their respective worlds.
    but see, Grond was not just made about substances of the world, but from living elements on it too, even if the evolution was not natural, he was natural from there, Agrammar just pull the strings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    >made them

    They literally chose to drink the Fel Blood.
    that they didn't know what it was, and after being corrupted and manipulated,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    but see, Grond was not just made about substances of the world, but from living elements on it too, even if the evolution was not natural, he was natural from there, Agrammar just pull the strings.
    I would say that's a distinction without a difference. Without Aggramar there to pull the strings, as it were, the Gronns, Ogres, and Orcs would've never come to be *naturally*. Same with the Vrykul and Humans of Azeroth, who were derived from the Titan-forged created there. Being made of the substance of a world, regardless of the ingredients, doesn't bestow naturalness when your creator is still an extraterrestrial being.
    "The finest line of poetry ever uttered in the history of this whole damn country was said by Canada Bill Jones in 1853, in Baton Rouge, while he was being robbed blind in a crooked game of Faro. George Devol, who was, like Canada Bill, not a man who was averse to fleecing the odd sucker, drew Bill aside and asked him if he couldn't see that the game was crooked. And Canada Bill sighed, and shrugged his shoulders, and said, 'I know. But it's the only game in town.' And he went back to the game." -- Neil Gaiman, "American Gods"

  7. #87
    A few things.

    A. The Draenei did not rename Draenor. The races there had no name for the world, so the Draenei gave it one.

    B. The orcs probably would not have reacted well to this news. Consider that even DUROTAN got angry at Veleen when he tried to explain what Oshugun really was in Rise of the Horde.

    C. There's no reason to think this would have ultimately worked. When Ner'zhul was tricked it was because he though the ancestors were speaking to him. Gul'dan was not deceived but betrayed his own people for power. I don't think that telling the orcs about space lucifer would have caused Ner'zhul to not be initially deceived by what he thought was his dead wife's spirit and would not have convinced Gul'dan not to ally with them.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Be Draenei

    Settle on primitive world full of shamans worshiping rocks and fire.

    Be so full of yourself that you rename their planet after your race.

    You also have a prophet as a leader who knows for a fact that he is being pursued by space Lucifer and its only a matter of time before space Lucifer catches up

    The orcs and ogres of this world have no greater concept of evil

    And you do absolutely nothing to warn them of the great evil that is coming

    AND IN A MOVE THAT SURPRISED NO ONE SPACE LUCIFER WAS ABLE TO CORRUPT PRIMITIVES

    And because your race remained secluded and hid away from the world instead of trying to coexist with the natural inhabitants, you get purged.

    Oh and the Naaru that you brought to this world is now evil getting up to no good

    Proceed to leave Draenor a fel shattered rock and try to play the victim about it
    Don't forget that 2/3 of your race chose to follow Space Lucifer and in another reality they brainwash and assimilate said primitives.

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    you think draenor was the first planet the draenei did that stuff too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I would say that's a distinction without a difference. Without Aggramar there to pull the strings, as it were, the Gronns, Ogres, and Orcs would've never come to be *naturally*. Same with the Vrykul and Humans of Azeroth, who were derived from the Titan-forged created there. Being made of the substance of a world, regardless of the ingredients, doesn't bestow naturalness when your creator is still an extraterrestrial being.
    still there is a difference when the beings create the life of you and when the beings just mold the existing life of the planet into something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Be Draenei

    Settle on primitive world full of shamans worshiping rocks and fire.

    Be so full of yourself that you rename their planet after your race.

    You also have a prophet as a leader who knows for a fact that he is being pursued by space Lucifer and its only a matter of time before space Lucifer catches up

    The orcs and ogres of this world have no greater concept of evil

    And you do absolutely nothing to warn them of the great evil that is coming

    AND IN A MOVE THAT SURPRISED NO ONE SPACE LUCIFER WAS ABLE TO CORRUPT PRIMITIVES

    And because your race remained secluded and hid away from the world instead of trying to coexist with the natural inhabitants, you get purged.

    Oh and the Naaru that you brought to this world is now evil getting up to no good

    Proceed to leave Draenor a fel shattered rock and try to play the victim about it
    Draenei are the best. I love them.
    Orcs and ogres are filth. Mindless, destructive and barely sentient.

    I think the OP is very confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post

    funny those people originally came from england.

    That was sort of the point. I was drawing a parallel between British settlers and Draenei settlers.

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    Draenei are evil. Their tail is too distracting, makes me stand in the bad.
    "Your name was stolen? I see... Well, I guess that happens from time to time..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    I mean doesn't WoD basically confirm that Orcs don't need demonic influence to turn into genocidal conquerors?
    Legion also confirm that draeney are evil.

  16. #96
    The Draenei are not evil, what are you smoking. Stupid maybe, but not evil.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbl3 View Post
    The Draenei are not evil, what are you smoking. Stupid maybe, but not evil.
    If the original Triumvirate was any representative of the Draenei society at large, we should conclude that 2/3 were evil and 1/3 stupid.
    "The heart of the Horde" = Alliance-approved Horde

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    >made them

    They literally chose to drink the Fel Blood.
    If WoD proved anything about orcs, it's that once they have the means to massacre a group of people, they'll go and do it, no further reason needed, probably the only thing that held them back from attacking the Draenei pre-Garrosh was that the orcs' biggest innovation in weaponry was adding a handle to an axe...

    Demon blood? They're off rampaging. New weaponry? They're off rampaging. The only thing that keeps orcs from waging war on something is knowing they'll get their asses kicked if they attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    If the original Triumvirate was any representative of the Draenei society at large, we should conclude that 2/3 were evil and 1/3 stupid.
    Those were Eredar :P The Draenei are the 1/3 of the faction that left the planet to be hunted by the 2/3.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    Remember when the Orcs genocided so many Draenei that they were able to pave a big ol' road called Path of Glory with their bones?

    Orcs are a culture of peace.
    Please, don't shame orcs. Purely socio-economic reasons driven them to fight against vitality of Draenei.
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